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How much to get into this theme park? I`d like to go. Big Laugh Smilie
Erm £17:50 for adults and £11:00 for under 16's and over 65's!
£11 for an 11 year old, very dear don`t you think? Smile Smilie
Only trouble with a live-action hobbit would be that I personally could not believe in CrankyElrond.

Maybe we could bonk PJ over the head and make him recast the character. I had my heart sooooo set on it being David Bowie, who has matured a little over he years since he was That Really Hot Guy In Labrynth. I think he could pull it off with grace now.

Or Legolas' dad? That would be eerie. It might even work.

Hmm. But they're stuck with two problems. One, no female characters except a cameo by dear ol' Lobelia. Two, many fans who came to Tolkien through Jackson's films will whine and gnash their teeth if Legolas doesn't show up. I suppose he might in the Battle of Five Armies, but then they'd forget the whole rest of the movie or treat it as an irritating delay before they get to see their precious elf again.

Smitten though I am by the elf bug, I have not quite lost grip on my sanity, and I know he shouldn't be in The Hobbit.

I'm all in favor of Brian Blessed as Beorn. Yes, he's typecast, but so much fun!

As for the Rankin-Bass version, I remember it with the starry-eyed love of a child. I had a vinyl record and storybook that went with it, and I remember the original broadcast, which for some reason was shown on TV where I lived. Long before VCRs. Smaug, in particular, struck me as fabulous. I can still remember his voice.

I'm afraid to watch it now, because I know it will be bad, but it was fun at the time. Apart from those very scary-looking Wood-elves.

For some reason the "Road Goes Ever On" at the end of ROTK was my favorite song growing up.
I must say that Sylvester Stallone has to play the Goblin king who gets slain by GandalfBig Smile Smilie I really despise Stallone.....well anyway....I think also that the one to play Thranduil should be Chris Rock and Bard should be played by Jet Lee or what do you guys thinkBig Smile Smilie hahahhahahahaha
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As for the Rankin-Bass version, I remember it with the starry-eyed love of a child. I had a vinyl record and storybook that went with it, and I remember the original broadcast, which for some reason was shown on TV where I lived. Long before VCRs. Smaug, in particular, struck me as fabulous. I can still remember his voice.

I'm afraid to watch it now, because I know it will be bad, but it was fun at the time. Apart from those very scary-looking Wood-elves.

For some reason the "Road Goes Ever On" at the end of ROTK was my favorite song growing up.


Don’t be scared Sepdet, I own the Rankin Bass version of The Hobbit on DVD (as well as ROTK), and I still watch it all the time! I was raised on that version when I was little, and absolutely loved it (still do), and it sounds like if you had the vinyl record, and storybook, you loved even more than I did. I would say that if you loved it as kid, you’d still at least enjoy it now. Obviously maybe not to the same effect when you were a child, but trust me, there is still plenty of good stuff in there, and the scenes between Bilbo, and Smaug are excellent!
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I think that is a bad idea to make a movie out of The Hobbit... because why to change all J.R.R Tolkiens fantasy - for me it is the childhood fairytale and it means very much to me and if they'll make a film it will be much diffrient as it was in my childhood, and the bad thing is that they want to make money with it Sad Smilie ...but ofcourse I can't say anything- because is just may not watch it if I don't want to...anyway I would watch the film about it only because of curios Smoke Smilie
I see your point Lordioren and I feel the same way.... but then I would won“t to see it in the cinemaTongue Smilie WHAT A DILEMMATongue Smilie
I have seen this "trailer" of The Hobbit.....I think it is false...and even if it wasn“t...I would not want to see PJ ridicule more Khazāds....
I think the hobbit would make a great film. It would be awsome if they made the battle of the five armies like they do in the other movies
Hmmm ... "The Hobbit" movie ... I would like to see that; especialy Smaug and the Battle of the Five Armies. But if it were to be changed as FotR and TTT were, I would say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Bugy...it is an impossibility to have crappy directors like Peter Jackson make a movie out of a book like the Hobbit without changing it....NO MOVIES FROM ANY OF TOLKIEN“S BOOKS! NEVER AGAIN! IT“S A BLASPHEMIC ACT!!
Oh, come on, Aule ... tell me u've never dreamed to see a Silm movie(s) that respected the Book, not interpreted it?! I'll believe u, if u tell me!

I'm still dreaming, hoping, praying, wishing ...

Namarie!
hi erm... im just wondering if there's going to b a film on the hobbit-- because i recently downoaded a trailer-- that says The Hobbit -- December 19th-- 2006-- duno if this is tru-- but the thrailer for it looks real 2 me-- but if any of u guys kno otha wise plz let me kno!! thnx raven--
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hi erm... im just wondering if there's going to b a film on the hobbit-- because i recently downoaded a trailer-- that says The Hobbit -- December 19th-- 2006-- duno if this is tru-- but the thrailer for it looks real 2 me-- but if any of u guys kno otha wise plz let me kno!! thnx raven--
Welcome to our forum Raven. Happy Elf Smilie

No, that was a hoax, the trailer was a cut and paste job from other films. We can still hope for a movie, but not in that timeframe; it remains just a wish in the minds of we fans.
My uncle read something and said they are doing the Hobbit movie.
They are considering doing so. See the news article on our home page which I posted Wednesday 7th January 2004 - Tolkien Great-Grandson gives Jackson 'Hobbit' blessing.

This doesn't mean it is a done deal, but it means part of the Tolkien Estate is on our (less Aulė, Ross, and Virumor) side, so we can still hope. It will have to follow Peter Jackson's King Kong though, so don't expect to view it before 2006-7 if ever.
btw, what part will Arwen steal in King Kong??? Tongue Smilie

ps: let's hope someone somewhere in the world uses his head for once and stops PJ from destroying yet another Tolkien Masterpiece!!!
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btw, what part will Arwen steal in King Kong??? Tongue Smilie
Let us hope it is either the Tyrannosaurus regina, the Triceratopesse, or one of the Pteranodonesses. I don't think even PJ would be foolish enough to give Liv Tyler the giant gorilla's part, or would he? Then he'd have to rename it 'Queen Kong'? Elk Grinning Smilie
Why, guys, I'm shocked! How could you say those nasty things about gentle Liv? She's preciouss (oops, wrong character!)... Anyway, I think the movie will be called 'The Return of the King Kong' and she'll play the role of Xenarwen, the mighty Queen Kong.
Meanwhile back to The Hobbit . Let us again consider who should play Bilbo, for Sir Ian Holm is a tad bit long in the tooth for the role.

How about Andy Serkis?
I hope that they don't make the Hobbit into a movie, exescially is Peter Jackson is fliming it. I did not like the way he made the Lotr movies. I did not even like it how they made the Hobbit into a video game. So i am hoping that the hobbit will stay a book.
~Irima-Arwen
Hopefully they'll find someone that fits closely to the description and similer looking as Bilbo in the movies. And can act. Wiggle Smilie
I won't be mad if they make the movie, as long as peter Jackson dosen't make it and it is like the book a lot. ~Irima-arwen
Danny DeVito as Bilbo

Alan Rickman as Gandalf

Meatloaf and ZZ Top as the dwarves

Andy Serkis as Gollum again

Various politicians can play the trolls.

If this is a Hollywood movie it will need a love interest. How about Angelina Jolie as a female ranger who falls in love with Bilbo.........?
pj should becongratulated, but after half a year of watching movies and comparing,i've reached the somewhat strange ideea it wouldn't be that fun to have him direct the 'hobbit'.cause he'd probably work with the same team again(a team that,no doubt-did a GREAt job),but...then you'd know what comes in the film, you'd be aware of the movie's style and fx, and there would be no surprise left,nothing new to be seen.-hope you got my point...anyway,i'd be Orc With Thumbs Up Smilie if thy'd get Tim Burton on it-and i presume you've seen Beetlejuice,Edward Scissorhands,Nightmare before Christmas or Big Fish.

I think the problem is to be seen this way:
Is any 'Hobbit' better than no 'Hobbit'?
I just don't want peter jackson to make it into a movie. ~Irima-arwen
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If this is a Hollywood movie it will need a love interest. How about Angelina Jolie as a female ranger who falls in love with Bilbo.........?

I wouldn't mind that, being a lad. "Hobbit, Interrupted"

Let PJ ruin another JRRT book in a good way, now! Angelina instead of LIv, teehee. I think PJ is gonna replace the Great Goblin by The Green Goblin, from Spidey. Hey, it's Hollywood, eh. Right on.
I agree with Virumor, PJ will ruin the hobbit if he makes it.
~Irima-Arwen
I dunno. I think that PJ did pretty darn well on the LOTR all things considered. I mean that's a HUGE project to accomplish and not only that but it would be impossible to fit a book of that size and complexity into a reasonably long movie. Plus if it it were that complex most ppl would't see it. (A good book makes a good movie and if you're too lazy to read the books pooh on you! Angry Elf Smilie Just kidding) I think the Hobbit would make an awesome movie! I heard about the play too. (If any of you are from the Vetura county area in California you probably know about the Young Artists Ensemble. That's the group that did the Hobbit the play. I SO wanted to see that! Sad Smilie ) Tim Burton directing it would be awesome though! I've seen Big Fish and it was very creative. I think with that kind of creative talent you could really make an excellent movie. You know what would be hilarious though? If one of the old Pythons (from Monty Python...YAY!!!!) like Eric Idle or John Cleese played one of the Dwarves! I'm a big Python fan and so's my father. As for the other members of the cast........I'll have to think on that one for awhile. But I think that Ian McKellan should keep the role of Gandalf. He sure is awful gud at it (im in Oklahoma the play.....please forgive the hick accent that has been slowly creeping up on me! Very Big Grin Smilie Wolf Smilie )
PJ: would easily be able to do The Hobbit, the only problem at the moment is the row over the rights. The cast would be easy:

Gandalf: Sir Ian McKellen
Bilbo: Ian Holm (if the rights can get settled before he ages too much)
Elrond: Hugo Weaving
Gollum: Andy Sirkis
Thorin: Brian Blessed
Balin: Robbie Coltraine
Bombour: Timothy Spall
Voice of Smaug: Hugo Weaving
Goblin King: Bill Nighy

Other Dwarves could include:
Jack Black, Kyle Gass, John leigh (The Bloke who played Hama) and not to mention John hys Davies

Perhaps Guest Appearances by perhaps Legolas In Mirkwood

PJ could have so much fun popping in cameos...
Ian Holm is now much too old to play the younger Bilbo, though PJ could play one of the Dwarves. Somehow, my mind's eye sees him in the role of Bombur.
Gads, I wouldn't put Jack black anywhere near a Tolkien movie.
I'm sure they could find an actor that looks close enough to the young Bilbo that they could get away with it, as the Bilbo we are used to is older, and quite a bit older in TTT and ROTK, than the Bilbo in the Prologe of FOTR.
I love the Idea as Coltrain, I think he's fantastic as Hagrid.
Definitely Robbie Coltrane. As for the role of Bilbo, I really think that Ewan McGregor, if he put on a few pounds, would fit the bill, to be sure. King Bard should be Kenneth Branagh, King Thranduil -Jason Isaacs, and Thorin should be Jason Alexander, or if not Thorin, then he should be at least a dwarf of some kind. The voice of Smaug should be Sean Connery.
Laurelindhe ilmarin : fantastic Ideas..
I also can see PJ as a dwarf...... only mentioned Jack Black cos he and PJ are working together at the moment...as they are doing king kong..... Jason Issacs and Branagh yes definately
er how about some new aussie talent taking over the young Bilbo role??? who knows an unknown would be good...
An unknown would be even better as Bilbo Baggins, for he wouldn't be carrying all the excess baggage from his previous rolls. That was one reason the four hobbits in the LotR movies worked for me, because I had only seen Sam in the Goonies and as he had grown up since then, I didn't recognize him. While the first time I saw Borimir, I said "That's Sharp". The other three hobbit actors I had never seen before. In fact Ian Holms and John Rhys-Davies are the only ones I had seen before to recognize. Sure there are three or four others that I now know were in movies I have seen, but they didn't register at the time.

Of course, the preceding just means I seldom frequent the movies and thus my igrorance is dangerous. So ignore me if you don't agree with what I have said above.
Gotta agree with Grondmaster:
Can you image what LOTR would have been like?
Matt Damon as Frodo, Ben Affleck as Sam...Jay and Silent Bob as Pippin and Merry.
George Karlin as Gandalf...oh dear the mind boggles.....
Chris Rock as Aragorn, Jason Lee as Boromir oh dear I think I'll stop there...
my head hurts........
AHHHH YES!!!!!! Lauralindhe ilmarin you know exactly the actors I love! Kenneth Brannaugh is SO good at Shakespeare that he would fit into the Hobbit the movie perfectly! And I love Jason Issacs! I guees if you put him in a lot of makeup he could like an elf. But his acting is certainly superb! Hey for a young Aussie to play Bilbo, I would like to say Ian Thorpe (GO Thorpedo! Any of you watch the Olympics?) but I'm afraid that he probably has no acting talent and lets face it: He looks nothing like what any of us would picture Bilbo to be like (unless you guys picture him as a surfer dude or something like that). But he's so AWESOME! Forgive me if I'm just a bit obssesed. Disturbed Smilie I can't help it. Really. Well and I guees poor Ian couldn't play Bilbo anyway.....he's 6'5". Robbie Coltriane would be cool as one of the dwarves but I'm afraid that then we'd be type casting him. And it stinks to be type-cast. Hmm......other dwarves......Rhys Ifans! I don't know if he sound familiar to any of you but he is simply HILARIOUS! He doesn't look exactly like a dwarf but I think he could pull it off if he wore a suit of gained a couple pounds.
Good call, Ach-Rhys Ifans is great(he was in The Shipping News and Little Nicky to name a few of his movies, for those who aren't familiar with him)! But I disagree with the dwarf idea-maybe he could do Bilbo properly...or else Grondy is right in that it should be a fresh face. But he should be in it somewhere...Smile Smilie
Also remember that size is no longer the major problem it used to be. By use of perspective, double sized props, and computers, they can now do wonders, for instance the size comparisons of Gandalf, Gimli, and the hobbits in PJ's movies.
Ian Thorpe as Bilbo???!!!???, I've heard some curly ones in my time but that takes the cake!!!
Perhaps Ian Hart as bilbo?????
Prof Quirrel from HP: He looks quite believable in a curly wig..lol
and he can act...

We now have quite a good cast between us lol...
lets hope they make the film..
Danny DeVito should play Bilbo.
IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN! AND IT DONT NEED TO HAPPEN! as the first or second Tolkien story it should remain without a movie based on it.(save the cartoon which most people dont know about)
the LOTR movies were good, but they almost messed up my entire viewpoint on the books(which i didnt regain until about halfway through the Silmarillion).
'Twas the first. And IT SHOULD REMAIN MOVIELESS!!! At least by old Pete. Or someone like him. Or EVERY PROFESSIONAL MOVIE DIRECTOR!!! THEY ALL THINK ALIKE!!!!!!!!!!! We must be content to sit on our comfy cushions and dream of all the wonderous places in Middle-earth, not get all wabbed!
Keep on screaming and using capitals, boys and girls, but the Hobbit movie is gonna be made. If you don't like it, just don't watch it. You won't be alone.
It's not that easy Vir. It will be like passing by a car crash, you have to look. Or like you and PJs LOTR movies, but that is more of a "know thy enemy" thing, isn't it? Wink Smilie
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It's not that easy Vir. It will be like passing by a car crash, you have to look. Or like you and PJs LOTR movies, but that is more of a "know thy enemy" thing, isn't it?

No, just to constantly remind myself why i should never go and see 'The Hobbit'.
Shucks, if I can laugh at all the satirical versions of Tolkien's stories, I can afford to check out any and all movies based on them, no matter how slim the comparison to the original text.. If they are really bad, they become camp and possibly will build a cult following. IMHO PJ's movies aren't bad, they're very good, and I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles The Hobbit. Cool Elf Smilie
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Lol, that’s probably a really good analogy for some people Ama! I know that there will be many out there who don’t want to see this movie made (as there are many who do) by PJ, or anyone else, but you better deal with it now because the enormous financial success achieved by PJ’s LotR’s films have definitely insured that The Hobbit will be made, and you can take that to the bank!

To me, out of all of Tolkien’s stories concerning M.E., The Hobbit definitely seems like it would present the least amount of problems, and will be the easiest to translate to film. I for one am hoping that PJ and Co. can learn something from the mistakes they made with the LotR films, and build off of the positives they achieved with the LotR films!
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