Thread: Inseparable Friends
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Let's see... they conquered Minas Ithil together and redecorated the place together.. they went hunting for Hobbitses together.. they took a fresh bath in Bruinen together (and were washed down the river together)... and in the end they went down on their carrion birds together.
Clover you should give vir his award today itself.
you really are a kill. Honestly!. I suppose that is true in an absurd way. But they had no choice now did they?
I wish wish wish you would write some stories in your journal of you as a child.
Were you ever a child?
I can see this little tyke, big eyes already cynical. There you are sitting on your highchair scowling at whoever is feeding you.In baby talk you are insulting the person left right and centre and what do you get for all the hard work and used energy?
A flaming kiss on both cheeks and a 'oh look isn't he the most darling thing,did you hear him, he said 'clug'. What a brilliant brilliant boy! yes you are , you really are.(pinches those adorable cheeks.)
As far as personality is concerned, I think that I would relate to Frodo better. Frodo has an open heart, but also a wise strength about him. He would definitely be loyal to the end for a friend. Sam is more foolish and less wise, but was proven to be the stronger of the two in certain ways. Everything that Sam feels, whether it is for a flower or for another, he feels it very deeply. That is a rare quality and proof of trustworthiness. No one would betray someone that they loved that truly and innocently. It's tough, but I think I would still go with Frodo just because it would be easier to relate to his personality.
So often when I am the least ready they come to me and need me to be there for them, they trust me with such a great trust it breaks my heart. And I have never ever really felt I belong not totally , not really in their world. I love it, it is lovely, but I am always in my mind in that far off place, or readying myself for the next long journey and I cannot honestly partake or enter in to their happy way of life.Since I know that if I have no other gift, no other merit save this one -that I am trustworthy with someone's faith in me, I must too go with Frodo. I have learned a great deal about myself that I used to feel ashamed about, a freak really until I read Lord of The Rings. I no longer apologize for who I am . I just live it.
Thankyou for your comments.
JRRT wrote in his Letters that they, in fact, left for the Undying Lands together but delibaretely omitted this tidbit because mentioning too much is not good.
Tolkien had already written (in one of the versions of the unused Epilogue) that Shadowfax went in the White Ship with Gandalf. He did write in 1965 that he felt it better not to state everything, but in any case 'a great grey horse' was added to Allen and Unwin second edition 1966.
And Bombadil seemed good friends with Farmer Maggot (what an unfortunate name!).
Strider certainly seemed to love his four hobbit companions and they him; I feel it especially in Aragorn's comment "there go three whom I love, the smallest not the least" and in his respect and understanding of the shire's borders and the hobbits' love to be free of the big people in at least that small corner of the world, but also in his visits to the shire as king.
He had also planned for Legolas & Gimli to be buried next to him, but they managed to escape capture & execution and fled to the Undying Lands.
I wonder if any of the many children of Samwise and Rosie were inseperable from their father and if is hurt him in his heart to be parted forever from one of them?
Clover you should give vir his award today itself.
Whoops! That was back in May '07!. Sorry, Thorin, and sorry Vir...
But I will give a sole award for Vir here:
Model of Camaraderie: Virumor son of Shadow, brother of Wit, husband of Grief, and father of Ruin.
I agree with You about the fact that Legolas should have found a better and stronger friendship going with Aragorn, but i know that many times during our lives we also are attracted by something new and different. I think the same for friendship. New feelings and new interests are motivations of this.
Nevertheless this doesn't means that Legolas was more friend with gimli than with Aragorn at that time.
It could also be that this bond existed because Aragorn might have known part of what Gandlaf's true mission would be in Middle Earth as, if I'm not wrong, he told the hobbits in Bree something like "Gandalf is greater than you shire folks know. As a rule you can only see his jokes...).
Therefore it is not surprising how he remained in the House of Elrond, amongst that shattered folk of grey ghosts that chose to hide themselves away in their sand castles hoping in vain that the tide wouldn’t wash them away; away from his kin he remained, and would’ve remained hath he not run into the self-proclaimed likeness of Lúthien (a clear sign of her sinister ambitions) – undoubtedly he knew the story of Beren & Lúthien and what Beren had accomplished with her help (for he had certainly read much, what else was there to do for him?).
The moment he saw Arwen frolicking about in the birch woods he sensed there was a path of opportunity opening for him, and certainly Arwen must have felt the same --- rather than while away the years in Rivendell & Lóthlorien picking flowers and brewing potions of hemlock & nightshade she wished to be a Queen (did she not inherit the unwavering ambition of the Noldor of the Lady of Lóthlorien, her grandmother?) and henceforth agreed to ally herself to a meek mortal; undoubtedly during her years in Lóthlorien she had learnt much of sorcery & magicks which she put to use to make her chosen more formidable. It is clear that, considering her Noldor blood, Arwen would stop at nothing once she had decided upon her path (to which her father was obviously oblivious, being too busy with indulging in his daily bacchanals).
Indeed, countless are the whispers of her deeds in those days borne from ambition – how she ventured to the last resting place of her ancestors, Beren & Lúthien, and there invoked those lost spirits in a dark ritual to make their power hers; how she turned the banner of the White Tree from the noble sign of Elendil to a mockery, a tool of mind control when it was unfolded on the battlefield; how she bargained away the Lady Éowyn, a rival in love, to Faramir, et cetera.
well at least they were every bit as close as all those children and horses and dogs from the old days tv series , right ?
When Sam found that Bill had returned to Bree, Sam went directly to the stable, even before he had a pint of Butterburr's finest ale. And he took Bill home with him where the pony lived in comfort for the rest of his days, fed on the best grain and apples that Sam could grow in the gardens of Bag End. Sam's children also loved Bill and often rode him two or three at a time around Hobbiton. - (This latter information could have been found in the lost chapters of the Red Book of Westmarch, had they not been lost.)