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I think Tolkien exalted certain positive [i:3qhzon32]traits[/i:3qhzon32] which he saw as British... Hobbits, of course, weren't Human, as we know :mrgreen: .
[quote="Odo Banks":wehkodud]I think Tolkien exalted certain positive [i:wehkodud]traits[/i:wehkodud] which he saw as British... Hobbits, of course, weren't Human, as we know :mrgreen: .[/quote:wehkodud]

Only using a very specific definition of human. <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> *tuts at the troublemaker*
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*tuts at the troublemaker*[/quote:141k1qo8]

... I am anxious to see how this remark turns out.
Odo's been trying to raise trouble lately. I don't think he gets that he's not really the ominous, troublemaking type. <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
[quote="Eldorion":273q4xro]Odo's been trying to raise trouble lately. I don't think he gets that he's not really the ominous, troublemaking type. <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />[/quote:273q4xro]

Indeed. He's much too little of the... forum-troll-smart-aleck-snide-remarking-takes-pleasure-in-seeing-other's-angry-and-or-butthurt type of guy.

If you ask me.
Well, Hobbits were intended to represent "respectable" English Country Folk with all their foibles and their charms. Through them, he pokes a bit of fun at their insularity and "lack of curiosity" about the outside world, which he himself had in Spades. So I really think (and I believe this is borne out in Carpenter's biography) that Bilbo represented Tolkien himself, a man of letters who was a bit apart from his own kind--full of wonder and delight (despite his own "better judgment"Wink Smilie at the lands and peoples beyond the borders of The Shire, and history itself.

But he clearly is at home with the comfortable life of a Country Squire --a warm fire, good food, good ale, a lovely garden, a song and a smile--that he felt represented the best of England.

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[quote="Gandalfs Beard":375kbzzx]Well, Hobbits were intended to represent "respectable" English Country Folk with all their foibles and their charms. Through them, he pokes a bit of fun at their insularity and "lack of curiosity" about the outside world, which he himself had in Spades. So I really think (and I believe this is borne out in Carpenter's biography) that Bilbo represented Tolkien himself, a man of letters who was a bit apart from his own kind--full of wonder and delight (despite his own "better judgment"Wink Smilie at the lands and peoples beyond the borders of The Shire, and history itself.

But he clearly is at home with the comfortable life of a Country Squire --a warm fire, good food, good ale, a lovely garden, a song and a smile--that he felt represented the best of England.

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Huh! If this is so, then I would say I'm a lot like Tolkien, really, and that makes me extremely happy <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> . I always thought myself like Bilbo. I like my own ventures, though when I am pushed beyond my wants out in the wild (which I actually do go on camping/canoeing trips quite often!) I just wish to be home, admittedly, drinking tea, which I am oh too much fond of :roll: .

As I was saying, some people can not stay in their houses very long these days, I could spend my whole life within the confines of mine own house, saying I had company once and again, my wants of food and drink, and an unlimited supply of books :lol: .

I'm a true sucker for History, and I am slightly obsessed with Chinese History and culture, which I find to be genuinely fascinated in. So, I suppose I could best describe myself as a Hobbit! :mrgreen:

Though I never thought of myself like Frodo. :|

This thread has made me very happy :lol: .
I am a bit of an Armchair Adventurer myself <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> , and always identified with Bilbo and Frodo (Frodo mostly when I was younger, and now Bilbo as I get older). And like you, I am obsessed with Chinese Culture and history (rather Elvish I think 8-) ).

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[quote="Gandalfs Beard":x80pdmce]I am a bit of an Armchair Adventurer myself <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> , and always identified with Bilbo and Frodo (Frodo mostly when I was younger, and now Bilbo as I get older). And like you, I am obsessed with Chinese Culture and history (rather Elvish I think 8-) ).

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*Chuckles*

Well the Internet is a wonderful thing, as long as Discussion forums such as this, I'm very happy I came upon one such as this, quite a treasure. <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />

Hmmm, well, the only way I can see Chinese and Elvish culture and history intertwining is... oh... well, I can actually see it being much more similar then I originally thought. :oops: <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />

They are the most "ancient" of us still around, since they are the longest surviving, and still surviving, civilization in known history, so they have seen many more things then any of the other civilizations have, so you could describe them as... observers, or at least, you could have. Modern-China makes me sad :cry: . While Mao Zedong is a prominent name in Chinese History, and while I respect him for the impact he had upon it, I really despise [i:x80pdmce]how[/i:x80pdmce] he changed China, and I am a fan of revolutionists, too! :ugeek:

Oh wait. This is a thread about Hobbits. :| I suppose this isn't the part to rant and ramble about China.

We should make an "All To Do About World History" thread. Or something. I should do this. :idea:
Actually Durin, the forum topic regarding where Tolkien's Races are derived from in history would suit this bit of the conversation perfectly.

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Yes, it's nice to think of yourself as hobbits (it gives me a fuzzy feeling too). It's sad you can't be [i:2ptepwnn]real[/i:2ptepwnn] ones - being humans, I mean... <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
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