Thread: Which Valar Do You Admire Most
I like this thread Brego, and |I feel the same way. I cannot say I admired all the Valar, I felt that some of them at times seemed selfish to me, arrogant somehow and yet I am sure that is not so. But with Her I felt such tenderness, love, compassion, intelligence, far seeing attributes. Yes I liked her very much.
Absolutely you are right. It in the end matters not what others thought or indeed think now, Eru was Creater. he made all things and knew all things and had a plan no one probably really understood and therefore he knew the ultimate end and while giving all peoples freedom to fall in with his plans or not, he alone in the end brought all things to their divine conclusion.
I remember there being a thread like this sometime ( or years?) ago. My choice hasn't changed though. My preferred Vala has always been Aule. I think this might be because he' the father of the dwarves and the hobbit was the first book I read so I have special love for them! Other than that he's a maker of extraordinary things but does not covet nor hoard which is why i like him too!
On another note, i think that the Valar are in a way responsible for the condition the world dominated by men have shaped up. If only they had helped and guided men in the way the did for the firstborn oratleast try to understand their hearts, being different to their own, the course of history might have changed! If the elves blame some of the forefather of Men for having marched with the Enemy, then are they really to blame as the only Vala they ever knew was Melkior. How were they to shape their opinion if they knew nothing of the powers that be?
Strange are the ways of Eru, yet ever do they reveal his glory! 
How I missed you Thorin, especially on facebook. My account was hacked over and over and I finally gave up. I had Mellon and Sian and a few others, on my facebook and the loss was great, especially as the three of you do not visit Middle Earth often any more. Happy Holidays to you and mummy and I think you said another brother. And I hope you get to see your sister.
I can see why you chose the person you did and your reasoning is very touching.
Merry Christmas to you and your family too Leelee! You have a good memory! I'm really sorry about your facebook, its sad that people behave like that!
But on a brighter note you'll be seeing me more often as from the end of next January here 
Interesting thoughts Thorin. Verily how different Middle Earth would have been if the Valar had listened to Ulmo when they had the chance. Really there was no need to bring all of the Elves to the West. The Elves had a better chance of withstanding Melkor than Men ever did and given time, I believe that the Elves would have been able if not to destroy the Dark Lord they at least have moved him on to perhaps a different region on Middle Earth.
I continue to be thrilled with this site! That being said, I have often pondered the different outlooks that the Valar seemed to have about the Children of Illuvator and their roles with them. It has always seemed to me those with noble spirits and good hearts have a habit of expecting good from others unconditionally. I think this comes from the fact that they do not expect the ill will that they are sometimes subjected to because they do not have it in them and end up hurt or at least dismayed at the ill that so many others are full of. I'm not sure why that came out, so pardon me.
What I was trying to get at, before I started rambling on there, is how some of the Valar and Maia seemed somewhat naive to Melkor and the discord that he sowed.
I also love Yavanna because of her wondrous creations. I have often lain beside a campfire looking up at the stars through the cypress trees and Spanish moss listening to her voice on the wind and dreamed of Elvish company. I can only imagine how beautiful our world was before modern Man began its rape of the forests and land.
I was born on the bayou and have been drawn to the water since childhood so I have to say that Ulmo is my favorite Vala. For me the way he continually exerted influence on the happenings of MiddleEarth and never gave up on either race is why I feel this way. One of my reasons is the way he influenced Turgon and Finrod to build their strongholds. Another is the prophecy he led Tour to fulfill. What a journey that must have been!
I will end there for now and respectfully watch and learn.
Yay Thorin, you are coming back, Iam absolutely thrilled. I miss that sound reasoning and the way you challenge us to think deeply and look at things in a different way. Fabulous. 
Finrod that was captivating and romantic, i could read that description a hundred times and not tire of it. And Brego has become such a stolid and dependable prescence I automatically look for your name each day. Thankyou for your comments.
Thank you for the kind words, Leelee. I am thoroughly enjoying PT. But I do have a question, How do I go about getting my hands on some of the titles and letters I have been seeing in some of your posts? I have a Nook from Barnes & Noble but the Unfinished Tales are the only two volumes available, and unfortunately the only ones that I've read. I would greatly appreciate some guidance in locating and reading the History of MiddleEarth and some of the Letters to which ya'll have referred.
If you as you say have access to a Barnes and Noble or any other Bookstore of any size you can ask them to look up the title of the book you want and they can see if it is available to order in for you. The letters are from the book by Tolkien The Letters by JRR Tolkien, put together and such by Humphrey Carpenter. I suppose this might be a little hard to order but certainly not impossible
What I was talking about Leelee is a Nook, which is Barnes & Noble's version of a Kindle. Sorry about the ambiguity. If a bookstore was available I would have already been bugging them! Thank you for the advice though. I gathered from what you implied is that most of the titles I've seen on PT are still in print so the next time I'm in a city I will look in some bookstores.
I must seem thick but the truth is I just joined the information age and at the age of 39 bought my first laptop so I am still learning the ins & outs of the internet. Please bear with me because I'm learning more every day.
Greetings friends,
My favorite of the Valar would be either Ulmo or Yavanna. I love Yavanna's ideas and personality, also I love trees. Ulmo on the other hand, is commanding, powerful, yet loves both elves and men.
if I had the time i would go on and on. But I don't. 
Wen
I can really empathize with our Yavannah, because i have fought hard for preserving the trees, flowers and protecting the animals here. it is a never ending work. i remember feeling like i was dying in side when one of our ancient heritage trees, normally fiercely protected by city laws was torn down in our front yard. We installed new plumbing and the toilet upstairs did not work. Upon examination it was found that the roots of the tree, well over a hundred years old had spread her roots so far they went right through the pipes.So she was cut down ,then the earth was ripped up and the roots dug out. What a horrible thing it was to me. And the worst of it was no one else on the street could care less, And when i started noticing that there were a great number of feral kittens and cats all about, starving , my family and i left out bowls of food and drink and pretty soon the number of skinny cats swelled to about fifty. We practically had to take out a loan to keep feeding them. One particular kitten I tried to catch was alone since a few weeks and was so terrified and would not let me get her without her killing me. So i called her Olivia and every day i would call her and see her hiding. i would put out a whole can of food and she would sneak up and eat it. Then after that every single time i would open the door there would be Olivia waiting for food. It broke my heart. When all the cats became well fed, we used a huge bear cage that captures young bears that have been orphaned and put food inside and starting catching the cats one at a time and taking them to the animal shelter. most were adopted. i cannot believe the way flora and fauna can be neglected or treated in a cruel manner. I think if Yavannah saw this now in this time she would have to be sedated.
