Thread: Music of LOTR Movies
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Sorry if I bored anyone. haha
Howard Shore is a genious! There is no arguments involved. He created the largest and most complex epic score ever written.
I know what you might think, there were other epics, and they had great music too.
You have to think about the individual songs. Before LOTR, most movies had a couple of songs, but mainly one theme repeated in different ways.
A great example of this is Pirates of the Carribean. Great music, but it is one song presented differently various times.
What is great about the score in LOTR, it has so many different songs, carefully crafted to match certain moods, characters, emotians, and locations. I have never seen anything like it.
Shore definately deserves every one of the awards he was nominated for!
While I do enjoy theme, development, and recapitulation, which how a lot of classical music is written, and is how these other movie's scores have been written, Howard Shore did use many different themes. He still went back to many as you will note with the battle theme and the Theme from the shire.
However, when I mentioned that the battle theme was in 5/8 I did not mean the tempo. This is actually a time signature marking. I thought it was interesting because being as it is not a "normal" time signature he did a great job being discreat about. You know, so it didn't "feel" weird. .
Tinúviel elvanui, Elleth alfirin edhelhael, O hon ring finnil fuinui, A renc gelebrin thiliol...
Tinúviel the elven-fair, Immortal maiden elven-wise, About him cast her shadowy hair, And arms like silver glimmering...
When Gandalf is rescued by the Gwahir , you her the wonderful voice of a choirboy and meanwhile the music is in the background. and when I hear the music in Rivendell I want to be an elf, whenever Arwen is longing for Aragorn the music is soft . I also like the drums that gets stronger when the orcs and Uruk-hai are marshing ! The use of Celtic music is great !!!
...Or was I only supposed ot be discussing FotR music?
In general I think that Howard Shore did great work, the music is really wonderful.
I love the music to LOTR and I've been listening to it from the beginning, nearly every day!
I look at it this way: Howard Shore just "translated" Tolkien into music. And he did a very good job. It's definetely the most powerful and amazing movie score writen to date.
I'm glad that so many of you enjoy it as much as i do.
Every time I hear Enya I just want to fall in love with a ranger and elope to some far-off wood somewhere...
Maybe that's the reason why Galadriel demanded a Dwarven lover upon her return to the Undying Lands. Her favourite band was Nenya.
But her voice is really really good... I never really get how Howard Shore seemed to have made everything just perfect! I thought it was utterly impossible to make the LOTR music perfect before I saw the films, but now, it's just, totally different, everything is just as I'd like it and I wouldn't chabge a single thing!
but talking about lotr music... my cousin is a musician and he told me that he was performing the lotr symphony with an orchestra... but he said it wasn't by howard shore. (I never heard it - unfortunately) so, is there another symphony, an older one, inspirated by the book when there wasn't any movie yet??? does anyone know that??????
but he said it wasn't by howard shore. (I never heard it - unfortunately) so, is there another symphony, an older one, inspirated by the book when there wasn't any movie yet??? does anyone know that??????
Sure there is. There's the Tolkien ensemble, for instance.
Music of Howard Shore is the best part of the whole movie and only thing I
thought that would suck but OH HOW WAS I WRONG!!!
BTW, I love the sound of the solo string instrument in the music of Rohan (I can't remember it's name, but it's a folk instrument -- not a classical violin or viola). Beautiful intro as the camera sweeps toward Eowyn standing out in the wind at meduseld.
The bottom line is that I think that theme from the trailers is most adventures and middle-earthish of all, every once in awhile a play that trailer and enjoy that few seconds of music.
SHAME ON YOU PJ!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and I loved the songs which accompany the Arwen and Aragorn episodes.
(I can't remember it's name, but it's a folk instrument -- not a classical violin or viola)
ummm, the violin....is a folk instrement.....
and a classical instrement
its anykind of isntrement
all in one
the fiddle is just a different name for violin
there the same
and i think it was on a vioilin
but im not sure
i can play it on my violin and it souds pretty much the same
i can play it on my violin and it souds pretty much the same
I agree, it is a nice change from common time.
Oh yeah, sorry I'm a little behind......I'm a newbie.
While the tune can be played on the violin or the viola, and it sounds OK, the timbre of the instrument used in the soundtrack is distinctly more "echo"-y than any violin, viola, or fiddle, because of all the extra open strings that ring on different pitches from the violin's open strings. There's a short blurb about it in one of the bonus material DVDs.
Viola d'amore [It.; F. viole d'amour; G. Liebesgeige]. An instrument the size of the treble viol but having sympathetic strings made of thin wire that were stretched behind the bowed strings, producing a silvery resonance. Unlike the viols proper, it had no frets and was held like a violin. ...... J.S. Bach called for it in his St. John's Passion; ..... Hindemith wrote a sonata and a concerto for it. - from the Harvard Dictionary of Music Second Edition, Revised and Enlarged by Willi Apel ISBN 0-674-37501-7
I'm listening to "The Two Towers" soundtrack right now and agree with everything said about Shore's soundtrack. It is utterly fantastic. Two pieces that I love are (and pardon me not knowing the actual titles... I"m pretty bad about such things) the little number that plays when Gandalf is leading the Rohirrim to battle against the orcs at Helm's Deep and the lighting of the beacons. To me, the scene/soundtrack combination of the Lighting of the Beacons is the best in moviedom. Every time I watch Return of the King I watch and rewatch that scene over and over again.
I also like a lot of movie soundtracks, especially ones with good orchestral arrangements and great melodies and symphonies. Howard Shore is a great composer, and if I'd have to say three of my favorite LOTR-trilogy soundtracks, then they would be: Nazgul, Saruman's theme + Weathertop and Khazad Dum (last track of those which play while the members of the fellowship are in Moria).
I love that part called IN DREAMS within The Breaking Of The Fellowship soundtrack. Edward Ross' voice is just angelic.
Glad this topic came up because I drive myself crazy listening to all the lotr soundtracks over and over again.
Don't you just love the theme as the fellowship enter the Dwarrowdelf in Moria; Gandalf says he will risk a little more light, and the music swells up.....also the lighting of The Beacons in ROTK; isnt that theme just amazing....and when Arwen sees the vision of her son Eldarion....and...oh, sorry, I'll shut up now.. I always get carried away...I suppose that's the point tough really , is it not; to get "carried Away" by these books/movies...
The lighting of the beacons is a classic scene.it's awesome.
They have so intricately developed the music with characters,nations,wars and moments,that if you just hear it audio,you'll know whether it's the Rohirrim or the Gondorians.
The lighting of the beacons is a classic scene. it's awesome.
Odette your spot on I simply love the score and the scene in the film, even though a massive amount of poetic license is used.... crossed a few timezones in middle earth.
Rene Flemming is used a lot in the sound tracks, very Elvish voice. And Gollum's song is possibly the saddest song ever written.
I fell in love, hopelessly in love with both Howard and Renee. Superb, divine, lifting one's soul to the stars and beyond.(does that sound a little like Buzz Lightyear?
A little Lee Lee...
Sheila Chantre (I think thats how you spell her name) sang the Lament to Mithrandir in Loth Lorien with a huge backing choir. I loved the eastern sounds that Howard chose to differentiate the Lorien Elves from the Rivendel Elves. Then there is the cross over during the psychic connection scene between Galadrial and Elrond where you get a little of both themes woven together... Absolute Heaven.
oh yes....Renee Fleming....When Gollum takes the ring at The Cracks of Doom.....and when Frodo is picked up by the Eagle (is it Gwaihir...?)....and have you listened to al the music on the End Credits....Into the West with Annie Lennox....then there is all this amazing music on the DVD while they roll the list of names of The International Fan Club...(which I am ashamed to say does not have my name on it)...oh I could go on for hours..(and I usually do...until peoples eyes start glazing over......) ...lol
You know Alana,your enthusiasm is just infectious.I've been reading and watching Tolkien since I was in my early teens and I still can't get rid of the hangover
When I just happened to see your last post on this thread,I was taking a break from studying and watching the LotR ext. version on my computer and Annie Lennox just amazes doesn't she?When I first heard that song,I didn't like it,possibly because I heard it in a rush but now I'm addicted.Complete bliss,that.
Another of my favorite musical moments is when Frodo rescues Sam from drowning and behind the emotional dialogue is that heavenly bit of music,which reminds me of all the friends I've lost touch with over the years.
And wait,also Elendil's oath.I believe Viggo himself sang it?
Now I should get a lid on me.
Another two small segments of music I love are.
The Ents are going to war! I thnk it may be a Boys Choir, absolutely moving to the extreme, I always think of Yavanna when I here/see that scene as the Ents are like the children of Yavanna...
Also The White Rider rescuing Faramir and some of his men from the Nasgul on the battle plain, peircing music just light the piercing light of Gandalf's staff as it wards off the fell beasts.
Oh thank you...Darling Odette,,,isnt it great we can talk like this...?
Oh yes...that music when Frodo pulls Sam out of the water..I cry every time....
Yes, Annie Lennox is amazing...that song, Into the West...it is like an anthem for anyone who has lost a loved one.........sorry, I am crying again..I do that a lot.
Yes , Brego I love the ents going to war.....and oh, yes, Odette that song Viggo sings at his coronation....
"Et Earello Endorenna Utulien, Sinome muravan Ar Hildmyar , Tenn' Amber-Metta"
"Out of the Great Sea to Middle Earth I am come"
In this place I will Abide, and my heirs,
Unto The Ending of the world"
My love to all Tolkien fans everywhere...
In the extended version there is the funeral lament in old English sung by Eowen. Very moving...