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Quite a bunch of them aren't there; nevertheless, I'm glad they spent the money to film the next two movies instead of trying to fix any or all these nits and subsequently finding themselves with insufficient funds to complete the project. Paranoid Smilie Very Big Grin Smilie
Neither have I.. Elf Confused Smilie Are we loosing our touch, Celeb??
Its because c is a letter that when pronounced it sounds like a s.
I finally saw the movie for just the second time tonight. In the movie, with the death of Elendil, Isildur becomes King of Gondor. What happened to brother AnŠrion and Isildur's Northern Kingdom of Arnor? Did PJ just omit these for the sake of clarity so as to reduce the need additional explanation?

We did get mention of Farmer Maggot, and got to hear Fang, Grip, and Wolf chasing the salad purloiners, but for reasons of brevity, his dogs couldn't outrun the wily hobbit cousins, they probably rubbed their hairy feet with garlic to throw the mutts off the scent. Very Big Grin Smilie That may also be why the snuffling Black Rider couldn't find them hiding under the tree root. Animated Wink Smilie
I spotted a corker of a cock-up yesterday watching the movie for the third time this week (yes I do quite like it). In Moria, when the stairs are all teetering around, you get to see Merry's stunt double's face full on in the camera, what with him being about 8 years old from the look of it, it's pretty creepy...
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We did get mention of Farmer Maggot...

Was that during the chase through the cornfield? I don't remember the exact scene...
Yes, when they first met up with Merry and Pippin in the corn field, those two young delinquents had just purloined some carrots and cabbage from Maggot's garden and then proceeded to pawn them off on Sam, who tumbled down the hill and ended up with a very large broken carrot bruising his ribs. What a Dufus! Ha Ha Ha Smilie
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In the movie, with the death of Elendil, Isildur becomes King of Gondor. What happened to brother AnŠrion
I'm afraid Anarion died a year prior to the battle in which his father Elendil died. During the Siege of Barad-dur, someone dropped something heavy from the battlements of the Dark Tower and poor old Anarion had the misfortune of being stood beneath it at the time. I guess because it didn't really have any relevence to the film, it was omitted to save confusion (and the cost of yet another Aussie actor).
As for the kingdom of Arnor.... from the film, someone who had never read the book must be a little in the dark as to where anywhere is. At least by reading it and constantly refering to the maps you get a feel for where you are in the land. The film doesn't give you this knowledge at all, and therefore, knowing about Arnor is perhaps irrelevant to the film.
Maps and descriptions never give me te feeling of knowing what where is.

I can easily get lost on the road to some places i have been too a few time earlier Smile Smilie

but hey thats me Smile Smilie
Replacing Glorfindel with Arwen. That was a big mistake. Sad Smilie
Yup hence my hence my idiot film makers discusion. That PJ sucks.
GRUMBLE GRUMBLE, MOAN MOAN, WHINGE. Mad Smilie Very Evil Smilie

[Edited on 10/11/2002 by Allyssa]
About that car-thing-i presume you all heared of it....I practically rubbed my eyes on the screen and still I didn't see that car!Did any of you?

But the biggest cr*p was dropping Bombadil off!!!!
The car!!! I`ve seen FotR about 22 times now and I still can`t see that blasted car!! Ppl say "oh yes you can CLEARLY see a car in the background, it`s impossible to miss!" Have I gone blind?! I see dust and something that reflects in the sunlight, but no car! And I can`t see that Frodo is wearing shoes when he and Sam are leaving the Shire (at the scarecrow) And Grondy is right, many mistakes aren`t there, they just make then up for fun...or something Smile Smilie

No I couldn't see any car either. And no shoes either. Perhaps it's all clearer when you see it on the big screen. I dunno... Smoke Smilie
Yes, but I kinda have seen it on big screen...but who cares Wink Smilie I do see some mistakes but I ignore them till next time and it actually works! Oh well Smile Smilie
The biggest mistake of all was letting this PJ have the rights to make the film in the first place. I also missed Tom as it explains a lot about the nature of the ring, plus Glorfindel is one of the best characters and they missed him out. That PJ's a jerk.
Elf Rolling Eyes Smilie Anyway...Am I the only one who hasn`t noticed that they say Celeborns name in the film? I haven`t heard anyone say Celeborn with an s...Tell me where? Hmm..weird I haven`t noticed Orc Going Huh Smilie
Yes, I know that C=K in Tolkiens world. I know it so hard that i alwas read celebrate as kelebrate. *lol* But I didn't notice it in the movie. Will check it out when I get time.
I have posted some MAJOR mistakes in another forum...chek it out!
What about Aragorn's voice in the Fellowship!
At weathertop where he says "we shall rest ERE tonight"
And in the prancing pony when he says to Frodo "Mr RUNDERHILL"
has anyone else spotted anything as funny as this?
LOL, well I like thos voice better then Aragorn's voice in the radio play. There that voice actor was lisping so badly that I started to wonder if he wasn't drunk all the time Big Smile Smilie
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What about Aragorn's voice in the Fellowship!
At weathertop where he says "we shall rest ERE tonight"
And in the prancing pony when he says to Frodo "Mr RUNDERHILL"
has anyone else spotted anything as funny as this?


I hadn't but I will look out for that. The thing about Aragorn which annoyed me slightly was his tendancy to slip into a slightly unreal Irish accent.
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to slip into a slightly unreal Irish accent.
I'm unsure of all the different shades of brogueness between an 'unreal Irish accent' and a 'real Irish accent'. Is 'slightly unreal' more or less real than 'mostly real'? Elf Sticking Tounge Out Smilie
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What about Aragorn's voice in the Fellowship!
At weathertop where he says "we shall rest ERE tonight"
And in the prancing pony when he says to Frodo "Mr RUNDERHILL"
has anyone else spotted anything as funny as this?


What can you expect from a half-Danish actor ? Orc Grinning Smilie
What is his other half, a hamburger bun? Elf With a Big Grin Smilie

Please, let us not be putting down the Danes or any other peoples: it only creates hate and discontent rather than the harmony for which we here at Planet-Toplkien strive. I understand you meant it as a joke, but some people are thin skinned and may not have taken it as such.
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but some people are thin skinned

Not to mention, thick skulled.
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What can you expect from a half-Danish actor ?

No, you have gotten it all wrong, Eithin. We LIKE IT when when famous people can trace their roots back to our own or one of the neighbour countries. Then we are all proud and stuff. You Sweds get everything wrong. Wink Smilie *hehe*
Vee, I agree-the scene after the fellowship comes out of Moria, immediately after the loss of Gandalf, when Frodo is off crying to himself while everyone else is spread out on the rocks, you can notice Aragorn's weird Pseudo-Irish accent when he says "Come, Legolas. Boromir." He says it like "Le-go-las, Bor-o-mir", and all the rest of the movie, he pronounces their names as "Le-go-las, Bor-o-mir. Odd. But really it is only terribly noticeable in the FOTR film, it kind of disappears in the second two.

Guess the prophecy was wrong all along. "The accentless shall be King again" ? Yeah, right.

Not that Stuart Townsend's accent would've been better. Maybe more stylish.
The Danes are cool Smile Smilie I love all people. Swedes, Norwegians, Danes and everyone else too Kiss Smilie
When I was told that that "good-lookning" Viggo was Dane my heart jumped up in the air. I know that we shouldnt "mock" other people but I saw that as my right cause he is a "neighbour" Smile Smilie
Yes Eithin, I know it is/was good light hearted fun. Just like when we Americans sing, "Blame it on Canada", which was just clean fun until the politicians, both ours and theirs, started horning in on the act, which resulted in big mistakes; though as yet these haven't shown up in any of PJ's movies. Elk Grinning Smilie
Posted by Arwen undomiel in 'LIVING URAUK-HAI', and then moved here by me. Smile Smilie

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When Aragorn is running down to Boromir, a Uruk-hai that he steps over lifts up his head to look at him. I heard there were supposed to be several living, dead, Uruk-hai and orcs throughout the three films. If anyone knows of any other such bloopers, post them here.

Perhaps this post was a waste of time, and possibly even a bit random. Sorry.

Arwen Happy Elf Smilie
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it only creates hate and discontent rather than the harmony for which we here at Planet-Toplkien strive.

Planet-Toplkien, indeed, Grondy!

Oh well, you can't criticise a movie for bloopers. Almost everyone has it. In Star Wars IV: The Last Hope, one of the stormtroopers bangs his head on the walls of the control room of the Death Star when entering it and almost passes out. In The Matrix I, when Agent Smith shoots Neo before the climax of the movie, the blood on the wall, behind Neo, appears before he gets actually shot. It used to be my favourite hobby looking for such bloopers..but that was a long, long time ago!
I still laugh and am slightly offended when seeing the ROTK. When Aragorn is about to go recruit the Army of The Dead, They have a close up of legolas and it is obvious his arrows are modern day because they have the rubber grips that attach to the string that all modern day (factory made)arrows have. Also The arrows never moved around in his quiver when he was running around. A quiver that held the arrows still is a modern day invention.
You guys need to lay off PJ, especially you Ross. That mans a genius. Think about it, if he included every page from that book onto that screen he never would have tied Titanic for the most academy awards won. He won every award he was nominated for in return of the king. By yea maybe your right Ross PJ is a jerk. He only brought a 500,000 word book onto screen and revolutionized motion picture technology and brought New Zealand back on the map. Man, you guys whine like a bunch of girls. I ve been reading the books since before the movies came out but i still aprreaciate the movies and dont cry about every little detail that the omitted from the movie. If you would ever take the time to watch the bonus features on the extended dvd's they expain a lot of why they left certain things out. Stop being such babies, they're like the three greatest movies of all time.

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Oh how nice, a troll.
Robbin'wood said:
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They have a close up of legolas and it is obvious his arrows are modern day because they have the rubber grips that attach to the string that all modern day (factory made)arrows have


Well...maybe they had rubber in Middle Earth. Smile Smilie

Man, Arvedui's post is a little harsh. Isn't this section for finding the mistakes in the movies? I agree they are great, but if people want to talk about the mistakes in them...go for it!
You are right, Eruwen, this thread is about mistakes in the films and there are plenty of other threads praising the films and discussing them. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I find Arvedui 's opinion on how great they are no worse than Virumor's opinion on how bad they are. But please, don't call individuals names. I doubt Arvedui is deliberately being a 'troll' either. If you want to discuss that so-called mistakes are not mistakes then fine. Play nice or the big bad CMs will descend upon you!
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Man, Arvedui's post is a little harsh.

Shouldn't it be? After all, he was dead before the book LOTR commenced. I believe he's just taking out his frustation.

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But please, don't call individuals names.

No names other than their usernames. (I know that was obvious, but couldn't help sticking my foot in)
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I find Arvedui 's opinion on how great they are no worse than Virumor's opinion on how bad they are.

What are you talking about ?? I think they're great...
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Vee, I agree-the scene after the fellowship comes out of Moria, immediately after the loss of Gandalf, when Frodo is off crying to himself while everyone else is spread out on the rocks, you can notice Aragorn's weird Pseudo-Irish accent when he says "Come, Legolas. Boromir." He says it like "Le-go-las, Bor-o-mir", and all the rest of the movie, he pronounces their names as "Le-go-las, Bor-o-mir. Odd. But really it is only terribly noticeable in the FOTR film, it kind of disappears in the second two.

Of course Aragorn has a potential tendency to speak the Common Speech (per Tolkien represented by English, but actually the tongue of Numenor as it evolved in ME) with an accent. Aragorn grew up in Rivendell speaking Sindarin. We're reminded of this in the films several times as Aragorn is the only mortal we see chatting in this Elvish language. Aragorn actually has the ability to disguise his accent (JRRT actually addresses this as well; see Appendix F of LOTR), but having just witnessed what must have been the most incredible event of even his extraordinary life (Gandalf vs. Balrog), its not too surprising he lapses for a moment into the accents of his youth. Great acting touch by Viggo!
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Its because c is a letter that when pronounced it sounds like a s.

Not if you speak Elvish.
Why on earth are you replying to a post written looong, loong ago, by someone no longer at the website? Particularily when other members have made the same reply already earlier in the thread? Orc Going Huh Smilie
Because she's Looni!

As for Black Sword: no, its not a brilliant acting skill by Mr. Viggo Mortification but just that he had a bit of a slip covering his true Danish accent during that part of the movie. Don't believe me? Go talk to some Danes!
The car thing can onlybe clearly seen in the very first cinema release of the film, they edited out from the DVD version - they knew about it for the cinema version but didn't have time to get it fixed [for ROTK they were still shooting second and third unit pickups + secnery shots 2 days before the film premiere, i was doing a small project with students of the wellington film school at the time and we kept running into LOTR units all over the place!] What you're looking for on the DVD version is a blob or shadow that starts out in the top left of the screen and moves slowly accross the picture.

Was it really such a mistake to replace glorfindel with arwen? The cinema release only had 2 hours to get the plot done and set up 2T how would you explain glorfindel to the audience and what would you do with him through the rest of the movies? Aside from cost considerations and adding another character you'd be adding a number of other scences, they already had to cut an hour out of the first movie to get the cinema release!
Come on, the car is perfectly explicable : it was a Ford Bruinen !
ROFLing after reading Vir's post.
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Was it really such a mistake to replace glorfindel with arwen?

Absolutely not. I've said this before in other posts: the building up of Arwen is, from a Tolkien lover's perspective, one of the best decisions PJ made. It's completely true to the spirit of the story, and in some sense corrects one of the few errors JRRT made (leaving her such a background figure.) Efficiency was required as Arwen isn't really in the book much, so giving her some of the action of a minor character was logical. At first, I had a complaint in that I didn't think that Aragorn would be so quickly convinced to allow his beloved to face the Nazgul while he trotted safely behind with the other hobbits. It made sense; she has powers beyond his (as she shows), but I thought he would surely take more convincing. But I've decided that I was just importing my own chauvinistic attitudes into ME. He knows what she is capable of, and they have an honest relationship. Why mince words?

By the way, I still think that the accent Aragorn betrays immediately after Moria was a deliberate effect by Viggo to show Aragorn reverting to Elvish thought under the stress of the moment.
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At first, I had a complaint in that I didn't think that Aragorn would be so quickly convinced to allow his beloved to face the Nazgul while he trotted safely behind with the other hobbits.

I wonder why Elrond would ever allow his daughter to risk her life Ón the wild, where 9 NazgŻl are wandering about. He would already lose her when he'd go into the West, so to me it's irrational to say the least that Elrond would take such a risk of losing her. Even Gandalf had troubles fighting off 9 NazgŻl at Weathertop.

I think that everything Arwen did in the movies, book-Arwen could do as well (except for the water-enchantment), but i don't think Elrond would let his daughter take such a risk - and i don't think Arwen wouldn't want to take such a risk.
Well, we don't really know enough about Arwen from the books to make a decision as to what risk she is willing to take on her own. But...if we are saying she is risking her life to save that of her love, then yes, I think she would be willing to risk her life, just as I would, and I don't think one's parents could stop him/her, let alone know even what their child is really up to. Wouldn't Aragorn risk his life for Arwen? You bet!

By the way...good argument, Black Sword. You've convinced me.
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