Thread: So What did you think of the movie?
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Yes, it was Gandalf's idea to go through Moria and Aragorn was set against it while the option of the Redhorn Pass was still available.
And Gandalf didn't know if he was strong enough to break away from contact with Sauron via the palantir had he chanced to look into it. He was actually thankful that Pipin saved him from making that mistake. And for the fact that Sauron would now be confused as he could no longer contact Saruman directly.
I think Gandalf said to someone, 'White is powerful, but black is stronger still', I had always thought he was speaking of the Lord of the Nazgul rather than Sauron, maybe I was wrong. Will need to look for the quote, to find its context.
It does seem odd... I felt Gandalf's strength when he returned in the books and I know that I was really amazed at his haste to lead and do battle with the dark lord. But at the same time now that I have read it agian for the God knows how many times, it seems hard to figure out. Help!!!!!!!!
'... I have spoken words of hope. But only of hope. Hope is not victory. War is upon us and all our friends, a war in which only the use of the Ring could give us surety of victory. It fills me with great sorrow and great fear: for much shall be destroyed and all may be lost. I am Gandalf, Gandalf the White, but Black is mightier still.'
Found in 'The Two Towers', Book III, Chapter 5 entitled 'The White Rider' the section I had remembered. Gandalf is speaking with the three hunters on the skirts of Fangorn after their reunion with him.
So now I know why you are the Grondmaster! Thanks for the info I think you hit it right on the mark... I went and looked it up too and I agree. Although I still think that somewhere it is stated that although black is stronger then white there is a difference in the strengths...????
When Eowyn met Faramir, she knew that no rider of Rohan would ever best him. So,
Faramir = Eowyn.
Eowyn beat the Witch King, so Eowyn > Witch King
But Aragorn is superior to Faramir, so Aragorn > Faramir
Therefore Aragorn > Eowyn, which follows that
Aragorn > Witch King
When Gandalf returned from the dead, he told Aragorn, Gimli & Legolas that none of them can beat him, so
New Gandalf > Aragorn. Therefore:
New Gandalf > Witch King
Old Gandalf beat the Balrog, so Gandalf > Balrog. Therefore:
New Gandalf > Balrog
New Gandalf beat Saruman, so New Gandalf > Saruman
As for Sauron, still am trying to find a good equation. How about: Aragorn wrested the palantr from Sauron, so:
Aragorn > Sauron. Therefore:
New Gandalf > Aragorn > Sauron.
So if she weighs the same as a duck... then she's a Witch!
and we can burn her!!!!!!
Gratuitous Pythonism, but it had to be said.
Frodo > Gandalf
But Gollum beat Frodo & bit his finger off!
So Gollum > Frodo > Gandalf! Gollum is the strongest power in ME! :o
Hooray yippee yay-yay-yay!
Clever though. Very cool!
Gollum was afraid of Sam. Sam could have killed Gollum but he had compassion on him so Sam > Gollum.
So Sam > Gollum > Gandalf > Frodoi
One gardener to rule them all!
1) Sam was a henpecked husband and was afraid of Rosie, since he dared not leave home too long after marriage.
So, Rosie > Sam! Rosie is the ruling power of ME!
Hmm...that's not quite how I intended things to turn out....:P
All these conclusions are above my sense of logic, I must say. Oh well... I still rule! :P
Surely they will let Gandalf overthrow Saruman now that they have let them both battle once before in FotR! Saruman defeated Gandalf there, so in TTT they will let Gandalf win. It's easy...
Goldberry has old Bombadil wrapped around her finger (who needs a stupid ring? ).
So, Goldberry > Bombadil.
All hail the River-daughter!
I wouldn't say she has Tom wrapped around her finger though, cos... cos... oh heck, you're right!
I think that the movie was GREAT!!!
All those talking about "nothing common with the book" and s*** like that......