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Only PJ knows the answer to that one. I suspect it will end with Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf and Elves leaving for the Grey Havens. I saw a spoiler picture at one time that showed Elanor running into Sam's arms. The only way I can visualize that scene is when Sam returns to the Shire after Frodo and Company depart. Sort of a happy scene to take the edge of the departure of Frodo. Hence it is entirely possible Sam will be saying:
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Well, I'm back.

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Yeah I really hope it ends that way, it makes the book feel complete as though everything can return to normal now showing the hobbits solidarity and resiliance to anything thrown at them ahhh.
The book is complete already, now just the film. Tongue Smilie But I'm sure that's what you meant, Rosie. Big Smile Smilie
My grammar's amazing isn't it but you all know what I mean!! Big Smile Smilie
Animated Wink Smilie We do, Rosie, we do. My grammar isn't that great either. Especially not today, cos I'm really tired. But you can't knock me out of here. Not just yet... Big Smile Smilie
Yes, the departure for Gray Havens HAVE to be in the movie!
I can't wait. Or maybe I can. Nope, I can't. =)
I just think it's a shame there has been so little attention to Sam's crush on Eleanor. It's cute. =)
I hope that it will end as it should, but we have to count The PJ factor, the everlasting, bloody, uneccessary bnot no mention mindless battles he puts up might take out everything we want to see untill the extended edition comes out....
But the endings surely must be the same in the ordinary and the extended version? Shocked Smilie


[Edited on 24/1/2003 by Airecristiel]
Wouldn't count on it....
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I just think it's a shame there has been so little attention to Sam's crush on Eleanor. It's cute. =)


I think you mean Rosie (Elanor was their daughter) and at this point, there hasn't really been any mention of Rosie in the books either, if anything PJ has added to it by making the point of showing Sam with her (twice in the extended DVD) and making no bones about his intentions towards her. Whereas in the book, I felt that the whole Rosie thing was an afterthought chucked in at the end to add a little more warmth to finish on.

btw. welcome to PT Airecristiel hope you enjoy your time here, and please don't take mt nitpicking and arguing to heart, I was born antagonistic. Smile Smilie
Who`s Rosie? Oh and who`s Elanor?
Rosie is Sam's wife, and Elanor is their daughter. (In the movie, Rosie's the hobbit Frodo shoved Sam at during the dance at Bilbo's party.)
According to me, the movie will end with the Grey Havens for sure : Sam will see Frodo sailing away in that Swanship to Valinor.

But, as PJ likes 'changes' so much, i think the Swanship will then be sunken by a German U-boat...

Yeah, definitely something like that Smoke Smilie
I wouldn't count on it either... Sad Smilie
It has to end the same way! It's just plain wrong if it doesn't! Mad Smilie
Exactly! It has to end the same way, otherwise they would be changing the best part of the 3rd book.
I didnt like the end that was in the books. Sad Smilie Sad Smilie


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[Edited on 7/3/2003 by Grondmaster]
What??? That's a great ending and can never be changed. I'm sure lots more eople will agree.
That ending made me cry, so they have to put it in the movie! There's something else that i've been really curious about, but i've kind of come to the conclusion that it probably won't happen. You know when Sam finds Frodo in the tower naked, so he has to find orc clothes for him, and then it helps them blend in and so on...i wonder if they put that in the movie. My friend and i have debated long and hard over it, and we've decided the answer is probably no. Has anyone else wondered about this?
If it's in there at all, I think they'll deal with it sort of like the bit with Gandalf after he defeats the Balrog. Meaning it might be there, but it won't be obvious or anything.
I've spoken with PJ he says the grey what's, according to him the ending is Sauron wiping out the entirety of the free peoples, then crushing Numenor (according to him it's still there), going on to capture Aman and then last of all replacing the Eru as supreme being! Inbetween all this a love story develops between Sauron and Shelob!
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I've spoken with PJ he says the grey what's, according to him the ending is Sauron wiping out the entirety of the free peoples, then crushing Numenor (according to him it's still there), going on to capture Aman and then last of all replacing the Eru as supreme being! Inbetween all this a love story develops between Sauron and Shelob!
I might have believed you Ross, until I read your first few words. PJ wouldn't have responded to your question; he would have tried to bowl you over and roll you into a paste for the kind things you have posted about his directing. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
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I might have believed you Ross, until I read your first few words. PJ wouldn't have responded to your question; he would have tried to bowl you over and roll you into a paste for the kind things you have posted about his directing.


You seem to forget I'm six foot five, I'm quite scary and impossing, he doesn't that I'm really just a big softie!
Hahhahaha that“s what I think to! Ross do it for PTBig Smile Smilie punch first ask questions later:....
Ok I'm lock and loading!
What's the topic again Question Smilie
Chill Grondy!! Cool Smilie

I`m hoping that PJ won`t make too many changes to ROTK.
Check out Sheryl our resident Rasta! Wink Smilie
Shouldn`t I have said that?
ofcourse you can say it, in fact it's quite cool that you did. From now on all hail Sheryl the Mini Rasta!
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I`ll just tell you something. I`m in the school council. We had to write a letter of apologie on behalf of year 5 and 6. (That day something serious had gone on in the playground, something bad!) I disagreed with another counciller and had a mini arguement with him. That wasn`t what happened in the playground. Then he said, joking around, I think you`re going to be the next Margeret Thatcher. I told him I hope not, because, I don`t even like her and any other polotitions for that matter.

Wierd..... Cool Smilie
I was a school councillor, because then I got to shout at the head master and get away with it!

Good answer on the politics, stay away from real politicians they'll twist your words and stab you in the back if they can gain something from it!
That`s true. Never live in England! It`s a c*** country!! Mad Smilie
It's a lot better than some, at least we are free to do most anything we want, have a decent standard of living, and don't get regularly bombed, imprisoned for no good reason or gassed. In fact I can't think of anywhere I'd rather live to be honest. But lets not get into "who has the nicest country?" here shall we, it could get nasty.
Well said it's not the country that's horrible it's the goverment!
Well unless you live in the Ross indipendance or somewhere else in Antarctica, imagine that being ruled by a bunch of egg head research scientist's (no offence Val Wink Smilie )
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Nah nah nah nah nah Looking into the house of treason!
Nah nah nah nah You can kiss good bye to freedom!


A quote from the song House of treason by Skrewdriver!
That`s true about the government. Stupid polotics!! Mad Smilie They`re all lampposts, well most of them are, some I`ve met and are quite nice. Big Laugh Smilie NOT!! Big Laugh Smilie

(Plastic justed fixed an insult that really could be taken in the wrong way)

[Edited on 20/3/2003 by PlasticSquirrel]
Please, let us quit talking about the foibles of our respective, if not respected, governments and get back to speculating on how the movie will end.
Truth, Freedom, Liberty, Justice, Reasonably Priced Love, and a Hard Boiled Egg!

and if you've read the home page this morning, you'll have an inkling on how the movie's gonna end.
I`m sorry PS about what I said earlier, I didn`t really mean it, I just had to get something off my chest while I was in a bad mood. Sorry if it affended anyone in any way. I`ll crawl back under my shell and stay there.
Don't worry about it Sheryl, it was merely a colloquiallism, many of our friends across the pond don't use that word as an insult, and they might have thought that you liked the Politicians!
I have already told everybody how I think it will end.....or did I? oh well I wont do it now anyway.....Orc Smiling Smilie
Okay, it`s up to you.