Thread: Remembering The Lizard King
This was a post to remember someone great but you come along and open yer mouth and sh*t spews out which does not surprise me at all. Small minded people and so on. So crawl back to wherever you came before I have to kick yer a*s.
Being a musician, and having played, studied, and majored in music for a very long time; I know that I have very different views than the majority out there, and itís not worth my time and energy to get all worked up about things, bands, or styles of music that I personally think are c$@p. One of the greatest things about music is that there is something out there for everyone! Trust me, Iíve had people say the most idiotic things about people, or bands, or a style of music I listen to, and Iíve been so furious that Iíve just wanted to unload, but you know what, it ainít worth it! No matter what style or styles of music you like, or who your favorite bands are; thereís always going to be people out there that donít agree. Sometimes you just need to take a deep breath and chill out!
Your view is not wanted here quite frankly. This was a post to remember someone great
You do have a valid point here Darous, if Plastic had nothing nice to say, then he should have just stayed away from the thread, but he is entitled to his own opinion even if you donít agree. However, getting this worked up, and threatening someone with physical violence over something this trivial is hardly the way to go.
Now that Iíve spoken my peace, I do need to pay my respects to Mr. Morrison, and The Doors. When I first started playing guitar, and writing songs a long time ago, originally The Doors were one of my biggest influences. I donít listen to very many rock bands these days, but The Doors are one of the few rock bands that I still like, and can listen to and enjoy. Yes Ray and Robbie were the true brains behind the band (you canít give all the credit to Ray, because Robbie wrote a ton of their songs, including some of their biggest hits), but without Jim, The Doors would have been nothing.
Iím not saying that I condone, or care for everything Jim did in his personal life, but I do think he was a talented visionary, and he was definitely one heck of a front man! I donít think he was the greatest singer of all time or anything either, but I do think he had a unique, great voice. Again though, it was Jimís passion, personality, looks, and charisma that made The Doors. He gave them their identity. He may have been over the top, but he put The Doors over the top!
Regardless of what anyone else says, The Doors are undeniably one of the greatest and influential rock bands of all time, and Jim had a big hand in that. So wherever you are Jim, break on through!
Carry on with your celebration Darous, just try and be nicer, because you don't want to P-O the SKWRL who could edit your comments making you look ridiculous wearing a polka-dot dress and army boots, not that he would, but he also has that power.
Plastic Squirrel: You did bait him in his eulogizing thread. So what did you expect him to do roll over and play dead?
He was complex and yes you could say he had his faults...drinks and drugs and many many women. But thats what made him who he was....you could blame it on his childhood being a navy kid. Moving from town to town whenever his father got a new assignment.
Or it his complexiaty could come from that day when his parents were driving through the desert and they came upon a car crash and Indians were scattered on dawns highway bleeding 'ghosts crowd the young childs fragile egg-shelled mind" Jim in later interviews he said that he felt like an old indian possible a shamans soul leapt into his.
'now this will bring them out from there stones'
This could have happened or it might not who are we to decide. But maybe on that day on Venice beach Ray saw something in this film student sitting singing his songs.
And when John and Robby joined the fray then that was it. They were complete.
I do agree that the Doors are overated due to the death of Jim Morrison. As has happened with many other artist's ie. Elvis, Bob Marley and Freddie Mercury!
Thanks Jim. RIP.
The first night I heard American Prayer always sticks in my mind as one of those special magical nights.
Man, itís been so long (15 years now) that I had almost forgotten about AP. I remember I got that when I was 17, and used to listen to that quite frequently back then. As I mentioned, The Doors were one of my biggest influences back then. I used to draw a lot when I was younger, and my junior year in high school I did a freehand sketch of that cover, and actually glued it to my backpack (lol). I think that was on my backpack for almost my entire junior year. I had just read a bunch of books on Jim and The Doors then also, and was probably at the ultimate peak of my Doors obsession then. I think Jim (brace yourselves Morrison bashers) was probably somewhat underrated as a poet.
Anyway, kind of a weird thing happened to me the other night on the night of the actual anniversary. I had already played guitar for like 3 hours that day, and for some reason later that night, I picked up my guitar again and started playing all of these Doors tunes I used to know (at least what I can remember now anyway). I hadnít played any of that stuff in ages, and it was kind of weird that the impulse came over me. I had no idea at the time that it was even the anniversary night, because Iíve been removed from that for so long, but later that night I saw something about it on TV, and I thought how weird it was that on that night, without knowing I somehow got the impulse to play those songs out of the blue. Kind of freaky!
Anyhow, Ross is still wrong about Floyd, and I still like the Doors.
*Runs off to find his copy of "Morrison Hotel*
Elfy is your Avatar from the origonal movie!
Ross, my new avatar (thanks again Taz) is of Fingolfin! It's lost some detail in being transformed into the avatar, but itís taken from one of the coolest artist depictions Iíve ever seen of anything from The Silmarillion, and was done by this guy by the name of Timo VG Vihola, who specializes in 2d, and 3d computer art. Here's the link if you wanna check out the full pic, I think youíll like it!
(Yes Ross , I can do it here as well remember )
*apologies for this abuse of power, but there you go kids, Ross deserves it*
[Edited on 16/7/2003 by PlasticSquirrel]
[Edited on 16/7/2003 by Ross]