(From"your positive ideas about the movie")
Well I have to tell you that when I arrived here few months ago, I really really loved both films of PJ (don't worry, I still liked the books more... ), but I actually changed my mind when reading all those postBodys about saying that the film misses some caracters , the film invents deaths (...) so I actually changed my mind and now I think it's a good film (I can't change THAT much...) but that it's really 'hockey pucks' compared to JRRT...
Maybe because of Aule , Vir and Ross's postBodys ...I'mstarting to think that they may be right...
Nice to see someone is finally able to look through the 'hockey pucks' of the movies. Thumbs up for Florian.
Woo hoo one slightly converted punter!
Pff.. Everone who can think for themselves and has read the books can see the changes PJ has done. I've still not seen anyone claim the movies are better than the books (if someone has, please correct me). What has been said is that people like/love the movies but wish they where more like the book.
IMHO the only affect the I-hate-PJ club seems to have is to make PT a place of wining and complaining of changes in the movies instead of the celebrating the world Tolkien made, as this site is mainly for. Everybody else seem to be capable of seeing both negative and positive sides of the movie and discuss it in a polite and family friendly way.
I do have great fun making fun of the changes and worry about what's been changed in ROTK while chatting with Virumor, but that is not becuase they have "converted" me. I saw these things long befor Ross came (and befor his Club memebers joined) and I have always liked to make fun of mistakes I see in movies. Celebrian and I went to see "Deep blue sea" simply becuase we had hear it was bad, and we laughed from begining to end, mocking it. (How the others must have hated us. )
It seems to me the Wining Club doesn't "convert" anybody, everybody agrees to some extent in what they are saying. The one who shout the loudest is the one who gets heard. And the more they shout, the more those thoughts about the movies are connected to them. So eventually people will think that the ideas they have come from The Club and not from their own head.
Of course it is easier to express the negative feelings you have for the movies when you can agree on something a person has said befor you, than it is to be the first to express it. But it seems the Club is overdoing this making it easier to be negative towards them instead of towards PJs changes.