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What are you talking about??

Anyway, so glad that Chelski got killed today : thank you, FC Barcelona, for yet another splendid night of top-notch, 23rd century football.

Only a pity that Chelski got a penalty for nothing, but in the end it did not matter.

And Werder Bremen : thank you for a good laugh in the end! Emerson sure has quick reflexes.

Ahh, were back on topic as everyone is again heading towards the World Cup, which is much more better than the stupid Superbowl. Orc Grinning Smilie
Tell us how you really, feel, Grondy. And would you feel the same if Holmgren had pulled a rabbit out of his hat?

And by the way, isn't that a lovely laced pigskin in the ad below? ;-p
Well, I would have been happy, but not estatic. Because of parity, the Seahawks had a pretty easy schedule this year. The Superbowl is usually a one day occurrance and is usually a dud, except for the commercials, which I try not to watch being more non-consumer oriented. The World Cup brings a lot more people into the mix over a longer period of time. Of course I can't get excited about footie or soccer no matter what you call it; I'd rather watch ice hockey or baseball. Had I been born on the right side of the Atlantic rather than the left, I suppose it would have been otherwise; and I might even have understood cricket with its wickets sticky and boring 'Well played!'s. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
Aren't your sports just variations/adaptations of British sports, though? American football (heck, why call it football when you run with something that's not even a ball, in your hands) seems like rugby in chainmail and armour, whilst baseball seems like a simplified version of cricket, again in chainmail and armour. Anyway : go Springfield Isotopes!

About the World Cup : don't bother watching it. Brazil wins it, anyway. Brazil, or Trinidad & Tobago.
"Topes win! Topes win!"

And football is an art, but I'm not getting into this again. Yes, it's derived from rugby, and there's actually far less rules changes than you'd think; we even get our touchback and Point After Try from rugby. The main difference is that around the turn of the century (when wearing shinguards got you driven derisively from the field) teams took advantage of the fact that as long as you weren't down, you could advance. So they'd grab their unconscious and/or dead teammates and carry or throw them forward. After a dozen or so people died TR demanded reforms or he'd ban the game; the reforms were made, but in the intervening year 33 more died. So, now we have a rule that says you have to have seven men on the "line of scrimmage" (think scrum, but it's a horizontal line, so you don't have to start play from where the ball was downed) and that effectively eliminates the infamous "Flying Wedge" that was so lethal (basically a churning pile of guys moving inexorably toward the goal with the ball carrier on the inside of the mass.) Rugby rucks feature players lining up vertically; football scrimmages feature players lining up horizontally. No big deal. except it's harder to push the pile forward; at the start of the play there's only one guy to shove, and if you're not careful someone will sneak behind you for a tackle while you're doing it. And instead of rucks and scrums, we just have a scrimmage: ten yards in four plays, but usually teams punt the ball away on fourth down for better field position. You snap the ball with your hands instead of your feet because Walter Camp decided after playing around with it that it's easier that way.

The only other real change is the forward pass, which wasn't even used much until the last forty years or so. Until the mid-eighties there was more running in the NFL than passing, and it probably wouldn't have changed then except a long pass is inherently more breathtaking, and the AFL needed all the help they could get to compete with the NFL when they started (that's also where we got televised games and names on the backs of jerseys.) Originally you had to be a few yards behind the line (two, I think, but don't quote me) but after a title game in the early 20's was won when the QB started forward, backed up, and threw the ball, with no one sure if he was two yards behind the line, the league decided to let people pass from anywhere behind the line of scrimmage. That's also the game that gave us hashmarks; it was played in an indoor stadium barely large enough so there was NO SIDELINE. Kinda like arena football, if you've seen that. To avoid placing the ball against a wall after a tackle and then making the team line up all on the left or the right they put hashmarks on each side and when a play ended at the sidelines they moved the ball to the closest hash.

Anyway, back to the forward pass: seven guys on the line, four behind it, by rule. Anyone in te backfield can catch a pass, and so can the guy at the end of each side of the line (hence the "tight end. " ) Everyone else is ineligible (sometimes QBs accidentally throw a low pass into the back of an offensive lineman; it's still a penalty, whether they meant to or not.) Apart from that it's all about blocking and running. In fact, it's ALWAYS about blocking; your QB can't throw a pass if he's tackled in the backfield (sack) and your running backs can't run for, say, 75 yards and a TD on the second play from scrimmage in the second half of the Super Bowl (just as a hypothetical, Grondy ;-p) if he's tackled. And it's the strategy that makes it beautiful, which is the reason I like Shanahans Broncos so much: on any given down, you don't know WHAT to expect. It could be a pass; so you line up with your six defensive backs and they hand it to Mike Anderson and he dashes for eight yards. So you say, "OK, it's 2nd and 2; they're gonna run for their first down" and you bring a safety up to help your three linebackers and four defensive linemen stuff the run; BOOM! 60 yard TD pass to Rod Smith. It's a chess match. With 350 lb. rooks. Wink Smilie

I'm very interested in seeing some good rugby (I think I want to see a few games before I try playing, though at least I know if someone spears me they'll use their head, not their helmet) but it's hard to find good rugby to watch 'round here. In Texas more than maybe any other state, they're all playing football (every brisk October day I find myself thinking, "good hittin' weather!") So I'll put to you the same challeng I'm willing, if unable, to accept: there's a game on Fox and CBS at noon every Sunday in the season, and one of them will have a late game at 3:30. Watch a seasons worth and I dare you to come away unimpressed, even deeply moved. And with a good team, because passes stop the clock (the refs have to respot the ball before you can snap it) and shorten drives either by gaining many yards in a hurry or using up all three downs, RUNNING is the name of the game. Nothing is better when you're nursing a late four point lead than to hand the ball to that back and watch him, and that offensive line that's been wearing down the defense for three hours, do the ol' "three yards and a cloud of dust" for the last nine minutes of the fourth quarter. And if you manage even a FG, well, boys, they got two minutes to go the length of the field or go home. Which means they'll be passing left and right, and you know it.

Football is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Well, besides the Silm. ;-p
Thx about that short explanation, but what about baseball?

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And football is an art, but I'm not getting into this again.

 h, you didn't?
i just have to say, i hate Chelsea with a passion, GO FC BARCELONA!!! i dont support FC Barcelona, i just hate Chelsea, if it wasnt for that Russian dude, they would be in serious debt, that guy just wrote off all their debts and gave them 500 million to get new players, typical......
I don't hate Chelsea, I just think they play boring, retarded football and their trainer is an arrogant, pompous twit although he probably refers to himself as "flamboyant".
OK, so maybe I did; I can't help it. Baseball's a great game to play, but watching it is like watching paint dry. Get a pitch clock. Please. Watching grown men spit and scratch on national television is not my idea of entertainment. "Oh, I think he's gonna pitch -- no, wait the batter stepped out of the box. Now he's adjusting his cup. So-and-so bats .489 with runners on first and third when his cup is pinching. [Insert fifteen minutes of inane chatter here.]" Meh.
So i take it you didn't like "For love of the game" ? :-P
Never hoid of it, actually. If it's an actual film, maybe; The Natural was OK. But if it's a documentary like Ken Burns' Baseball... I'll take a corkscrew to my eyes before I watch that again. Somewhere in the '50s or '60s football started taking over from baseball as the most popular sport, and I have no complaints about that.
It's a flick with Kevin Costner who plays a former baseball star who hears he's getting the sack and that his wife wants to leave him at the same day. Something like that.
I like baseball on radio or television because I can get a lot of other stuff done at the same time: like right now the Mariners trail the Rockies 4 to 1 after three innings of play due to a towering grand slam by Jeff Baker prior the third out in this Spring Training game I'm listening to. All four runs were unearned due to an error by Washburn, the Marainer's pitcher.
Are you going to watch The world champion ship and whos your favourite to win ?
Brazil will win it, of course. But I myself am supporting the Netherlands and Ivory Coast.
Norway never made to the champion ship so my favourite is EnglandSmile Smiliebut I hope Nederland makes it to the final too
Woah, no one talked about the World Cup here?

It was highly entertaining though. And now I'm waiting for the new EPL season to start, and despite the usual over-spending of Chelsea, Arsenal will reign! Very Evil Smilie
In three hours, DC United and Real Madrid will be playing an exhibition at Qwest Field in Seattle. Will Grondy be going to this match? Not if he can help it. Elf Sticking Tounge Out Smilie
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It was highly entertaining though. And now I'm waiting for the new EPL season to start, and despite the usual over-spending of Chelsea, Arsenal will reign!


That is a possibility. But Chelsea is strong, oh, abomianly strong...And boy do I hate Man U after the whole Rooney/Ronaldo business. Liverpool, therefore, is still the one I support. Though I must say that they do seem to be struggling nowadays...
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In three hours, DC United and Real Madrid will be playing an exhibition at Qwest Field in Seattle. Will Grondy be going to this match? Not if he can help it.

Hahaha, what if DC beat Real? That would make my day.

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That is a possibility. But Chelsea is strong, oh, abomianly strong...And boy do I hate Man U after the whole Rooney/Ronaldo business. Liverpool, therefore, is still the one I support. Though I must say that they do seem to be struggling nowadays...

I think Liverpool has a chance, with their new buyings this season. I just don't know how they could be really strong in the Champions League and not in the EPL. It's weird. I just hope Chelsea loses...getting tired of listening to Mourinho talking everyday about his team Boring Smilie
Gosh WTF are Milan doing? I am so mad!! So Angry Smilie

They haven't had one decent signing this season! They signed Favalli from Inter and he's dog gone old!!!!! Now I just read the Inter signed Ibra!!! Even Crespo went to Inter!! Oh my god! How the hell do Milan expect to last the season with just Gilardino and Inzaghi? Amoroso counts for nothing really!! Gosh I am so mad!!

Well at least they got a win and kept a clean sheet in the Champions' League qualifier. Valencia lost in Austria though Sad Smilie
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They haven't had one decent signing this season! They signed Favalli from Inter and he's dog gone old!!!!! Now I just read the Inter signed Ibra!!! Even Crespo went to Inter!! Oh my god! How the hell do Milan expect to last the season with just Gilardino and Inzaghi? Amoroso counts for nothing really!! Gosh I am so mad!!

You shouldn't be mad. You should feel lucky that they're actually playing in the Serie A.
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Hahaha, what if DC beat Real? That would make my day.
They tied: 1 to 1. And reportedly the 66,830 fans (a record for this venue and sport) went home with a smile.
They drew? Hahahah. Whatever happened to the Galacticos?
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Whatever happened to the Galacticos?

They've become White Dwarves.
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You shouldn't be mad. You should feel lucky that they're actually playing in the Serie A.


I thought it was very very unfair that Fiorentina, Lazio and Juve were relegated and Milan weren't. They should have been relegated like the other three. Now the verdict has been changed though and I don't really have a view on it. For one thing, do we really know who were really guilty and how deep they were in the water?

Just read that they've made an unofficial enquiry about Ronaldo. Real stated his price to be 15 million Euros or something. Also just read that Ayala wants to leave Valencia. Which is a loss. But I think Milan should get him. He's old I know, but Milan should get him, especially if Nesta or Kaladze are to be injured or something...
So to put things straight this first day of 2007, I'll tell every caring mate: "Man U is doing well, even they played a draw 2-2 today, still in the lead! There may be some intern problems in a Russian owned club. I hope of course that their pompous manager may "sort it out".

I prefer red to blue as always!
OH YEAHHHHHHH!!!!!

And i'm pleased to say that no 18 Paul Scholes, my favourite player, bagged all two goals. Let's hope the villains give someone a correction tomorrow, someone who's manager accuses players of diving when they try to avoid keepers.
I vote for PT and I go for that your analyse and suggestions. May our dreams come true!
Amen
Hey raffy our prayers have been answered. the multi-million-crazy-superstars-with-snob-manager-team have been held to a goalless draw by the good villains!!!!!!

Dunce Smilie Pary Smilie Pary Smilie Pary Smilie Angel Smilie
Yes, wishes can come true! Wonder which excuses are likebly to come; bad referee, bad playing field, bad day, bad players or bad manager.

I observe the Gunners made 4 goals yesterday! Do you recall their colours?
nope. anyway you heard what van persie said? mars-enal are the best team in england!!! i think benn traumatised by aresanal's countless defeat.

Chelski should also start watching his back cause while man u has 14 points lead on liverfool chelski has only 8!!!

And fergie (the gaffer!) is aligning Ole with larsson on sunday against villa.
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And fergie (the gaffer!)
Telling that he's our time's Samwise?

I read that some say that Ole G is passť as a player, while it is known that he's the most efficient scorer in the league (sharing it with some portuguese player in the Man U-team).

Henki is known as a soccer player who know where and how to put the ball in the net.
We'll keep watching!
Ole is one of the best CF in the world.

And it looks tha tliverpool didn't coceed enough at emirates stadium and had to have that 3-1 trashing again. But it serves them well cause some of their fans were laughting at man u draw with newcastle but they were humiliated by Wenger.

ha ha ha ha ha ha

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My Seattle Sea-turkeys slipped past the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs yesterday 21-20, because the Dallas placekick holder (their QB) couldn't control the ball and fumbled it away instead of allowing his kicker to make the game-winning chip-shot and the win by 2 points. This allowed Seattle to run out the clock. A most untidy game: Seattle moves on and Dallas begins their wait 'til next year.
The Baby face Assassin struck again in typical 1999 C1 final style.

Dunce Smilie

And Larsson got his first goal on the debut for MAn U. Congrats to him.
This means we can still keep on dreaming! Doing well in the league as in the Cup!

I see that in English and Norwegian papers one certain manager want to be manager for the national Portugesean Team.

We have few chances to see American Football in Norwegian Telly, Grondy.
Yeah, he's so frightened of the gaffer this season that he's been talking of running away all season long. Ha Ha Ha Smilie Ha Ha Ha Smilie
The way his team plays in the league up to now, I'll prefer him to stay. As far as I can see, he is so destructive to his team as he ever can be. Very Evil Smilie Cool Smilie Angel Smilie

He who laughs last...

(didn't get the joke)
WWHHHAAATTTT!!! vir, u r supporting chelski(you'll be benned from Pt)?????? my my where are we now, *shakes his head*.

Anyway rafael the surpeise of this year is tha the hasn't bought anu new palyers....yet.... Very Evil Smilie Very Evil Smilie Deal Smilie
Some Russian Money Mongrel may have hidden his purse!
Some little birdie tells me, that this purse won't be found before the Manager allows the Owner's friends a LOT of playing time!We can hope, can't we!??

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Yeah, and now i hera he wants to run away from england with the moyive that....the chelsea board are not allowing him to buy new players. Ha Ha Ha Smilie

Anyway united did a flyby with Aston Villa yesterday while chelsea won their game with the help of wigan.

But the big game of this month is next week when united clash with Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium. This is a MUST WATCH game. Very Evil Smilie Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
At least a MATCH OF THE MONTH. Some Reds are redder than other!

Go Man U!
My Seattle Sea-turkeys were beaten my da Bears this afternoon 27 to 24 in overtime; thus ending our season. Da Bears (Chicago) play the New Orleons Saints next week to decide who plays in the Superbowl this year representing the National division of the NFL. Da Bears should go all the way, but probably won't.
Nice nick-names on your teams, Grondy! You rise my interest. I have to use the net to find out more about American Rugby. It is very seldom I find matches to watch, but I'll try. Maybe someone can give me some tips.
My team is actually named the Seattle Seahawks, but when they stink up the field I call them the Sea-turkeys. They haven't been that bad these last two years, but they lost the Superbowl last year after having home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. This year four of their wins were by field goals as the clock ran out, which is merely squeaking by, not putting the game away.

And from out of the Far West comes the cry, "WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!!!"
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"WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!!!"
And I guess that is what's keep us crazy fans going. There is always a next year; and then!! I also have to admit that referees, the turf, weather conditions; we use every excuse we can find. Jumping Flame Smilie Jumping Flame Smilie Jumping Flame Smilie But wait till next time .....!!

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