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Thank you Taz, that was very sweet of you. I was in chat talking to Prog, Ally, Tommie, and Tuesday, when Prog noticed the flags and told us about them. They are very touching and moving. Some of us even cried. Can't put much else, too upset.
Very nice and appropriate Taz, well done. I think all the American members here will appreciate this very much. I'm not American and even I'm touched. Very Sad Smilie
To my American friends, my heart is with you as we remember the horror that was faced one year ago today. I also want to add my voice to the tributes to the brave men and women who risked their lives so others may live. God Bless You All!
A wonderful gesture Taz, and it is greatly appreciated.

My deepest sympathies go out to the families of the victims here in America and around the world. This date is now and forever dedicated to the 3,030 men and women who lost their lives. I will always remember you.

As Mellie pointed out, I was in the chatroom when we noticed the flags. At the same time, I turned on the television and there were three ceremonies taking place, one at each location of the attacks one year ago. There they read the names of each and every known person killed on 9/11. 2,801 at the World Trade Center site in New York City, 189 at the Pentagon in Washington, D.C., and 40 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. They paused at 9:03 AM when a bell was sounded to commemorate the minute the second plane hit the south tower of the WTC, and again at the minutes that each tower collapsed.

At the ceremony in New York, an 11 year old girl read a tribute to her father who was last seen helping an elderly woman in a wheelchair on the 88th floor of one of the towers:

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“This poem,” she told those gathered, “makes me feel like my daddy is speaking to me:

'I give you this one thought to keep,
I am with you still, I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow,
I am the diamond glint on the snow.
I am as sunlight on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn rain
when you awaken in morning hush.
I am the swift uplifting rush
of quiet birds in circled flight,
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not think of me as gone,
I am with you still in each new dawn.' "
I appreciate the sentiment from all of you. Smile Smilie

I pray for the families and friends of the victims lost in the tragic terrorist attack of 9-11 that they may find comfort and solace that their loved ones won't be forgotten. I also pray for all the peoples of the Mid-East, and Asian sub-continent, that they might safely live their lives in freedom without being subjected or threatened by any group or nation. And finally I pray that The Shrub gets off his unilateral kick and uses the international community to try and resolve the complex problems of the world in which we find ourselves. Exclamation Smilie Look Around Smilie
Hear hear, Grondy! Well said. Smile Smilie
It's a sick, evil world that we live in, when maniacs fly planes into buildings and perverts abduct young children off our streets.... Very Sad Smilie

Let's hope our children learn from our mistakes and sort out this whole sorry mess before it's too late.
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It's a sick, evil world that we live in, when maniacs fly planes into buildings and perverts abduct young children off our streets....


How many times that I've thought that while watching the telly, it's unbelievable. Very Sad Smilie

But thank God the world is changing and yes, people, there *are* some youngsters who believe in peace and the good that's still in this world. Cool Smilie
My thoughts are with the families and friends of the victims of 11-9, as well as all the other innocent casualties of war and of man's injustice to one another. Peace.

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But thank God the world is changing and yes, people, there *are* some youngsters who believe in peace and the good that's still in this world.

Tommy, that was lovely & very comforting. Thanks luv, from an old & cynical crone. Smile Smilie
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Wild honey has the scent of freedom,
Dust— a ray of the sun,
A young girl's mouth— violets,
And gold has no odor at all.

Mignonette smells watery
and love— like an apple.
But we have learned forever
That blood smells only of blood

-Anna Akhmatova, 1917-
To all Planet-Tolkien friends, thank you for your kind rememberances of 9-11. It was heartening to see the concern of others expressed so beautifully. Best regards - Chathol-linn
September 11. The world lost what little innocence remained that day.

No more the child-like joy of climbing a tall building or taking a ride in a jumbo jet.
No more the idle curiousity of watching an old building being demolished.
No more will we dismiss a nail file or stanley knife as a simple tool.
No more can we feel safe in our homes.
No more.

My heart goes out to all victims and families.

Of the 3000 victims in The World Trade Centre, aproximately 200 were Australian.

Neither will we ever forget!




[Edited on 14/9/2002 by Allyssa]
Sad Smilie I would like to let all of you know that ! am now a published writer at the age of 13. my published poem will be coming out as far as I know on Oct. 26. this poem is in rememberance of all those who lost their lives on 9/11. I would just like to say that this was written with all of those brave and valiant souls now hopefully in heaven. If any of you would like to have me send you a copy of this please e-mail me but you won;t b4e able to get it untill i get my copy of the book. My e-mail is CritterKeeper3000@hotmail.com Sad Smilie
Congratulations, Princess-Luthien. That is quite an achievement. If you wished you could post your poem in this thread. I'm sure most of us would like to read it.
Congratulations, Princess_Luthien. That is quite the accomplishment for you and a tribute to those brave souls. I too would love to see your poem posted here if you would like to.
Oh yes, Princess, please post it here.

Before I forget: congratulations! Smile Smilie
Please allow me to add my congratulations, Princess. Big Smile Smilie

And yes, I too would love to read you poem. Why not post it here? Big Smile Smilie Big Smile Smilie
sheesh... I can't believe I missed this thread.. and the flags... Sad Smilie


I spent the anniversary at the Richard Nixon Library taking photos... they had a ceremony there with people doing readings, and at the exact moment each plane crashed, they rang a gong to signify it. It was held outside, and next to the ceremony was a fire truck that was at the trade center, and several large beams from the Towers

It was very touching to be there. Because I am in California, it all happened when I was asleep, i got up only a few minutes before the first tower collapsed. So in order for the ceremony to be on time, it took place at around 5 am.... I thought maybe 10 or 20 people would show up, as it was so early. There were over a hundred there... and many more came through out the day to pay their respects.

The day of the attacks was definatly a crazy one for me.. It was my day to be Photo Editor for the University newspaper. As soon as it happend, and i finaly got over the shock, i left for the newsroom, after making a few calls to get photographers there, I went out and started shooting the scenes on campus... every tv in every room was turned on. Many people coming out of class had no idea what had happened, we told them... then, we got word from teh president of the university that they were going to shut the school down. The newspaper staff got special permission to remain on campus to put the issue together. We had meetings through out the day about what was going on the pages.. it was so hectic, i called in the other photo editor to help, because i just couldnt sit at the computer all day looking at the images, yet i had to to get stuff off the wire for our pages... I got to the newsroom at about 8am, and didnt get home till after 3am...

I will always remember that day.. and, the issue that we put out, was selected to go in a book of front pages from the day from all over teh world, we were one of only 9 universities in the world to be chosen for inclusion. I think our page is somewhere right next to the Los Angeles Times.. at least it was something we could be proud of after all that.. I got a copy of the book... and many copies of the issue... as far as I know it was the first time the paper ever ran out of issues...
gimli, that was very touching.
Big Smile Smilie ok, ok, ok you guys got me I'll post my poem. here goes..... (it's not that great, you can't say that I didn't warn you!! Ha Ha Ha Smilie )
Osama bin Laden

That's a name we've all heard by now
People hate him, are disgusted and just want him dead

I can't say I hate him it's too strong a word
Strongly dislike if you will

All of the men in Al Queda were trained
So that one day they would fulfill their fates

To them that's how they get into heaven
To us they will forever burn in the firey pits of Hell

Thousands were lost, many more left alone
To mourn for the death of their loved ones

But deep down I say to myself
What would it be like not to be free?

I don't feel bad for him just for the people of Afghanistan
Who had to live in fear of breaking the rules

I may not like him and he may not like the USA
But I know that now matter what in the end

He'll pay for his horrible crime
This horrible man named Osama

this poem is copyrighted!! Police Smilie
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Thankyou for sharing that one with us, Princess. It is very profound for someone of your age.
Totally agree with the above(s). Smile Smilie
The flames are out, the debris is cleared...
From that day that we all feared...
To remember those that died that day...
We showed our American pride in many ways...
We hung out the flags and made donations...
To show our pride for our nation...

American slogans written on cars...
Sympathy came from near and far...
Volunteered our time to those we'd never met...
Hoping to aide in the worry and fret...
We lit candles with neighbors and friends...
Showing our pride just wouldn't end...

Red, White and Blue was seen everywhere...
Where have they gone, it just isn't fair...
Is it that people just no longer care...
Are they no longer saying those prayers...
Are all of the flags tucked under the bed...
Did they forget about all that are dead...

Our nations are out there still fighting...
So why are the candles no longer lighting...
Flags went out of stock in every store...
Now they're no longer hanging by each door...
The war is not over, their still fighting for us...
So few show the colors, is it too much of a fuss...

So if you're one who has put your flag away...
Remember out soldiers are still fighting each day...
So take out the Red, White and Blue and fly it high...
For the soldiers at war that still may die...
Our patriotism should have only just begun...
Do not forget who they are and what they've done.
No I didn't write it Anilorak, and I don't know who did, but whoever did really touched home for me... Very Sad Smilie Sad Smilie
Very good all the same Andrea.

It made me think back to that day almost two years ago, my heart still bleeds to this day.
Yea.. if you ask grondy im sure he can tell you exactly what happend and where he was the day JFK was killed.. this is the event for my life.. and I hope there will be no more...


and that was a very good poem... and very true.... I guess I have to count myself though as well.. I flew our flag when it happened.. where is mine now....
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Yea.. if you ask grondy im sure he can tell you exactly what happend and where he was the day JFK was killed..
Boring Smilie Ya you bet! Grondy was in a classroom in the bottom of Sloan Hall getting ready for his 8 AM Thermodynamics class when some of his fellow students came in with the news. Needless to say we were shocked; however the class was still held, albeit started twenty minutes late.

That afternoon my then wife and I bought a new 17 inch Zenith TV for $75 and spent the weekend watching the live coverage including Jack Ruby's shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas jailhouse.

Come to think of it we also watched on that same TV set the live shooting by Sirhan Sirhan of Robert Kennedy after he won the 1968 California primary. Elf Rolling Eyes Smilie
I knew there was a conspiracy.. it was all that damn tv's fault!
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I knew there was a conspiracy.. it was all that **** tv's fault!
Yup, we havn't lost a leader since I got rid of that TV set.
Year the World Trade Centre was built: 1970

Number of companies housed in the WTC: 430

Number working in World Trade Centre on average working day prior to 11 September: 50,000

Average number of daily visitors: 140,000

Number killed in attack on New York, in the Twin Towers and in aircraft that crashed into them: 2,823

Distance, in miles, from which the burning towers were visible: 20

Maximum heat of fires, in degrees fahrenheit, at World Trade Center site: 2,300

Number of days underground fires at World Trade Centre continued to burn: 69

Number of days that workers dug up debris at Ground Zero, searching for body parts: 230

Number of body parts collected: 19,500

Number of bodies discovered intact: 291

Number of victims identified by New York medical examiner: 1,102

Number of death certificates issued without a body at request of victims' families: 1,616

Number of people still classified as missing from the World Trade Centre that day: 105

Number of people who died when American Airlines flight 11 from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center: 92

Number of people who died when United Airlines flight 175

from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the south tower of the World Trade Center: 65

Number of people who died when United Airlines flight 93,

from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, crashed in rural southwest Pennsylvania: 45

Number of people who died when American Airlines flight 77,

from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon: 64

Number of peole killed in the Pentagon: 125

Number of survivors rescued from Ground Zero: 0

Number of British victims: 67

Value of US economy: $11 trillion

Estimated cost of attacks to US based solely on property losses and insurance costs: $21billion

Estimated total losses to the world insurance market from the World Trade Centre: £25bn-£50bn

Amount of office space lost, in square feet: 13.5m

Estimated number of jobs lost in lower Manhattan area following 9/11: 100,000

Number of jobs it have been lost in the US as result of the attacks by the end of 2002: 1.8m

Amount it has been estimated that US commercial insurance premiums will rise by to cover the potential cost of future terrorism between 2002 and 2004: 50%

Amount allocated by Congress for emergency assistance to airline industry in September 2001: $15bn

People who will saw and will remember this day forever: 618395035 and counting
Spooky Coincidence, I finally got a copy of Amazing Spiderman #36 on ebay recently. I forgot all about what date it was, and it was delivered this morning, 11th september, the 2nd anniversary of the tragedy it is a tribute to. I for one am slightly creeped out by that.

(For those of you not in the know, amazing #36 is the WTC tribute issue, and a must read fantastic issue and a beautiful tribute, featuring all the new york based Marvel heroes doing whatever they can).
wow.....that was alot of depressing fact there Andrea......
I think it's horrible, it really is.. I forced myself to read through those facts and all the figures and whilst doing so I kept wondering: What's the meaning of it? You can never put the value of those people killed and the people suffering in numbers.

(No offense to your post, Andrea, it was good and brought me knowledge of how extensive the damage was.)
Two years. It seems just yesterday.

I remember my sister waking me up that morning and telling me that planes had hit the Twin Towers. I didn't know what to think, I thought it was some freak accident.

And then they started talking of terrorism.

And then they fell.

I went outside, it was a beautiful clear day, almost a mockery of what was hapening in New York. I prayed harder that morning than I ever had. Praying for those people trapped in the buildings.

Peple forget, people push away these things in the back of their minds so they don't have to deal with it. I'll never forget,it is still a throbbing wound in me.

No, you can't put a value on them Aire, but you can always remember how many were taken from us that day.

2,792...remember them...never forget.
As today marks the 2nd anniversary of that horrible day, I wanted to pay my respects to all of the innocent men and woman who lost their lives, to all of the brave and valiant men and women from the NYPD, NYFD, and other rescue workers who died trying to save others, and to the brave men and women on Flight 93 who sacrificed their lives trying to save others. You will never be forgotten! RIP. My heart and condolences go out to all of the families, relatives, and friends who lost loved ones in that horrible tragedy. May Eru be with you all!
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There's nothing I can say to show how badly I feel about the terrible events of 9/11.
What happened at 9/11 was a very sad and terrible thing. Each time I see the images on TV, it strikes me how surrealistic they are, how unreal they seem, almost like watching a movie. It's simply shocking!
But then again, I have mixed feelings about the way people react to it. When hundreds of people die in an act of terror, we all keep remembering those innocent people who lost their life. Remembering them is a very honorable thing to do. But if terrorists blow up only one plane, or a restaurant or pub and only a few people die, we speak about it two days, three days, maybe a week, but who, except for their relatives, will remember them one year later? What's the difference between the death of a few innocent people when terrorists blow up a pub and the death of thousand innocent people. Why don't we remember all people who died because of acts of terror? Does your death deserve more to be remembered when you die together with hundreds others than with just a few? A mother who lost a child in WTC feels the same pain as a mother who lost a child by a car bombing. We have a day to remember all war victims, why isn't there a day to remember all victims of terror? Take 9/11 for it if you like, but please, do remember them all.

[Edited on 12/9/2003 by gnampie]
Well-said gnampie! It’s really unfortunate that a lot of the smaller things tend to get swept under the rug, or seem to fall by the wayside. Any single loss of human life to a terrorist act is a horrible tragedy, and every human life is equally valuable. They all deserve to be equally remembered.

I agree with you that there should be some kind of day (9/11 is a good idea) set aside for honoring, and remembering all of the innocent people who have lost their lives to cowardly acts of terror.
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I totally agree with you gnampie! People die every day from terror acts and car bombings, terrible acts that are all connected through one common thing: hate. There's a little thing I say alot, PLUR, it means Peace, Love, Unity and Respect. Maybe if more people believed in this the world wouldn't be as crazy as it is now...
I just can't understand what would drive someone to do something like that. The anger I feel against the peole who did this is beyond words, but so is how badly I feel for the people lost thier lives. I was in 5th grade when it happened and, I can remember beening very confused for a while.
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I was in 5th grade when it happened and, I can remember beening very confused for a while.

I was in 7th, and the first person to tell me about it wasone of my friends, who happens to joke around a lot, so I didn't believe him. Then my dad called and asked if I wanted to come home, of course I didn't understand why, and I said no. I didn't actually believe it/ find out for myself until around dinner time that night, when I put on the news. Of course, right as I switched to CNN, it was the video of the plane crashing... My mom was in New York that week too, and she managed to get one picture of the WTC before the collapsed, then she got the h*ll out of there and home to us. It was very scary, and I hope nothing like it every happens again.
It's terrible, sometimes I don't even want to have kids because I know that what we see and hear now will be much worse for them in their lifetimes...
Sorry to ramble and babble Sad Smilie
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It's terrible, sometimes I don't even want to have kids because I know that what we see and hear now will be much worse for them in their lifetimes...
Sorry to ramble and babble Sad Smilie


We don't know if it will be worse in their lifetimes. It might as well be better. What if people who lived during WWI or WWII would have said that. Then we wouldn't be here now. Children are our futur and we must believe in them. We, as parents, have the important task to teach them the true values of life and show them the things that really matter.
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We, as parents, have the important task to teach them the true values of life and show them the things that really matter.


Well said again gnampie, I couldn’t agree more! Thumbs Up Smilie