Thread: The Catastrophe Theory
although it wouldn't make much of a story. The chapter "The shadow of the past" made it sound like the owner could get rid of the ring early on in his possession. If they did this early in Frodo's possession. I think that Frodo could bring himself to cast the ring in the fire from an eagles flight.
edited by Caud. to clarify
Oh, well, that's different then. Then the question is whether the Nines winged steeds could handle Gwaihir, but no question the collective might of the Eagles could handle them. Of course, the Fellowship didn't know about those winged mounts until they left Lorien, so there might be a new shortlived king of the Eagles (yes, I know the Nine had horses until Bruinen, but their winged mounts didn't just suddenly appear.) Possession of the Ring by other powerful members of Middle-Earth is (still) a rich "what if" domain itself I'm surprised we haven't seen more, thus Bilbo WAS meant to find the Ring, and be the only person who could to prevent disaster.
I guess I'll throw out a really unlikely one to keep it going: what if Morgoth had (or even Sauron legitmately) had reformed? Would evil have come about in Middle-Earth by another means? Would his creations have persisted with a mind of their own?
I think eventually the ainur, valar, or elves would continue there music and cleaning up the mess of the evil.
Or they might not and just leave ME to mankind.
I always wondered what if Gandalf got one or all of the eagles then road them to Mount Doom with Frodo, descended and dropped the ring in the lava. That alwayed seemed alot easier to me.
The Eagles were Maiar, servants of Manwë, hence i think they weren't allowed to interfere directly in the quest to destroy the Ring. After the Ring got destroyed, is another story : then they were allowed to save Frodo and Sam.
Besides, i'm pretty sure the Eye of Sauron -without distraction- would notice one or all great Eagles approaching Mordor, hence Sauron would either send all of his Nazgûl, or go to Mt Doom himself, and pick up the Ring.
What I had in mind was the possibility that all other alternatives had been excluded by a kind of survival instinct the Creator instilled in the universe, and a similar thing done by Eru.
That's also the essence of one of the "parallel universe" theories, now popular in kosmology : there are an infinite amount of parallel universes, but only one ultimately makes enduring life possible.
Eagles are Maiar? Like, all of them, not just Thorondor and Gwaihir? Is this yet another reason I need to get all of HoME? And now that I think of it, what happened to Thorondor? If Ancalagon couldn't take him he seems pretty indestructible. I can buy Thorondor, or even Gwaihir, as a Maiar (though the question still remains of what became of the former, but maybe it's a Silm-->LorT name change again) but the whole species is asking too much. That's a lot of Maiar.
On the other hand, who ever heard of a talking eagle?
I know at least one : Sam the American sea eagle, of the Muppet Show. Whether he's related to Thorondor as well, is unknown.