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Steven King is BOMB!
Sorry mate, I have no idea if you mean he's good or bad, but I'd just like to add that as a whole, I find many of his books fantastic. And Bag of Bones is prolly one of the best stories I think I've ever read, besides *wizard and glass* also by Mr King.
Dream catcher on the other hand was a terrible book and a complete waste of time as a movie, like many of his film adaptations, with the exceptions of perhaps The green mile and (Rita hayworth and) the shawshank redemption.
I've been waiting patiently for Bag of bones to come out in the movies and as yet I'm still waiting, Bruce Willis is playing Mike Nonnan, and I think he may also be producing, I really don't know what to expect, but am not getting my hopes up.
Do you think the Dark Tower series should be made into film, Rho? (not that it is gonna happen as long as Stephen is still alive, but still look what happened with LOTR)

About Bag of Bones, i'm pretty sure they're gonna change the end into a happy end. And put out all the explicit stuff from the books.
It seems to me that the movie adaptions of Stephan King's books are either really good or kind of bad. I love the Dark Tower Series as much as LOTR and would hate to see it made into a bad film. I think the story can get complex at times and could only be somewhat justified in the form of a miniseries. My hope is that they do not try to make it into a movie. The genius of King lies in his ability to be descriptive, yet also to force his readers to use their imaginations.
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I think the story can get complex at times and could only be somewhat justified in the form of a miniseries. My hope is that they do not try to make it into a movie. The genius of King lies in his ability to be descriptive, yet also to force his readers to use their imaginations

That's exactly what i think, not only about DT but also about LOTR. a miniseries would be perfect for LOTR as well.

but look what happened : they made LOTR into film. And for me, it was crap. It might be different for ppl who haven't read LOTR before the movies. That's always the problem, when someone's favourite book is made into film and one expects something from it.

anyway, the DT is 7 books so i'm pretty sure no director would be willing to try to film that!
You guys will be interested to know that the rights to the first book, The gun slinger, have already been sold, and I heard somewhere on the SK forums I belong to that a very low budget film was made of it, I think it was increadibly bad, and I aggree, the DT series is just far to complex to make a film of, and there are many parts that just wouldn't work, I mean, a giant cyborg bear?, and a talking train?
Unless it had a huge budget for special effects and Clint Eastwood of 30 years ago, I just don't see it working.
It's just too complex, the story too huge. If a movie was made, they'd had to put out a lot of stuff, which would ultimately result into all die-hard fans being shattered. First of all, they'd have to show the lifestories and backgrounds of Roland, Susannah, Eddie, Jake, which is already quite impossible considering the huge amount of material... then also fit in the whole journey and stuff that happened on that journey... then make ppl understand the whole concept of the Dark Tower, the Crimson King, etc. etc. and also the fact that DT is related to other SK books... and that certain elements and themes from other SK books pop up in DT. Heh. I'm not even sure if a miniseries would be able to do this... heh a really long miniseries perhaps.

Of course, i'm already making the mistake that i want a possible DT movies to be quite true to the DT books...

But do you guys agree that the Talisman and/or Black House would be more likely to be put into film? Or Eyes of the dragon, for that matter.
I think there is more DT link books than just the talisman, black house and insomnia.
I think many of the others may have already been filmed.
and yes I think The Jack Sawyer books could be made into a good film/s
Salem's Lot, Eyes of the Dragon, It, Rosie, Hearts in Atlantis are related to DT as well.

Pet Sematary, Misery, the Stand (miniseries), Dolores Claiborne, Thinner, the Dark Zone, the Running Man, the Pupil, the Shining have all been made into film. And i'm probably forgetting some others as well.
I think DT is better left untouched. Virumor is right, there is just too much material, background info and complexity. The end result would not be true to the story. Personally, I have such a vivid picture of it all in my mind that I don't feel the need to see a movie of it. That's not to say that some of King's other books don't make great movies. Green Mile was excellent as was Shawshank Redemption. Even The Stand was ok. DT is King's masterpiece though, and I doubt that he would be pleased with any film version they could make. . . but I suppose the same could be true for Tolkien!
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I think DT is better left untouched. Virumor is right, there is just too much material, background info and complexity. The end result would not be true to the story.

Well, look at what happened to LOTR. Some books are just impossible to made into a film if u want to stay true to the books.

SK has said he never wants the DT to be made into film, and considering the fact he's already quite the wealthy man - to say the least - i don't think he'll ever will allow the entire series to be made into film. JRRT did sell his story because he had money problems, if that ain't just a rumour.
I can say that as a die hard Stephen King and JRR Tolkien fan, if they ever made the DT series into a movie the budget would be unbelieveable. I have read all 6 of the available DT series and will own the 7th as soon as it is out. I also own more than 20 of his other novels and collections of short stories all in hard cover except for about 5.
For those of you that have also read Harry Potter, and have seen the movies, you will know what I'm talking about. Harry Potter has a terribly simple plot and you see what they did to it through the movies. If those books can't be made into a decent movie how could the DT series be made into one as well? I know that it would be impossible to even attempt to make an accurate representation of the book in film.
If there is anyone who would like to write me and discuss King or Tolkien you can write me at critterkeeper3000@hotmail.com. I would like to find some other fans such as myself.
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I know that it would be impossible to even attempt to make an accurate representation of the book in film.

That's true, Princess, but really no Hollywood director cares about that. They only care about making money. They'd only make DT into a fast-paced action/adventure movie whilst it's much much more than that. They'd do the same to DT as they did with LOTR, and no one would really care, as enough ppl would go and see the movie, and rent/buy the DVDs when it's out. And if the book fans then'd dare to say "it's not true to the books" everyone would reply "don't be so narrow-minded, it's just an adaptation".

Like LOTR, the DT universe is just too gigantic to ever be represented in film. Other SK books, though, have been represented in film quite faithfully to the story of the book (yes PJ that's possible). I'm talking about Shawshank Redemption right now. And Green Mile, perhaps.

I'm a big SK fan as well, i've read pretty much everything he's written until now, safe one or two books.
At the risk of sounding like one of his scariest charactors I have to say that I am his biggest fan.
Ok, we've pretty much decided that Dt is pretty much unfilmible, but what about other films that you would like redone?
For me it would have to be IT, I love that story alot, and luckily I saw the movie before I read the book so I already knew the movie was crap before I read the book.
I think that a series woukld also be the perfect media for IT, cause once again there is so much story there. That thought of 10 dorky misfit kids standing up to not only the town bully but also a terrifing monster that eats kids gives me the shivers. What a fantastic story and once again fulled with incredibly well detailed charactors and story line, I only wish it didn't suffer from the fairly typical rushed and anticlimactic ending.
Actually there is some sort of miniseries on IT, more a movie cut in 4 parts, but still closer to the story of the books.

I think the Talisman should be made into film. Wouldn't be impossible, as the story is one made for film : a boy who has to go on a quest to save not only his mother, but also the twinner of his mother as it turns out to be. The events that happened in the books aren't impossible to film at all, so trying to stick to the story of the books shouldn't be that hard.

Back to Bag of Bones : i sincerely hope Bruce Willis won't take the role of Michael Noonan. That would be slightly miscasting. The biggest problem with the films though, is the atmosphere. There are some very spooky parts in the book, which can never be made into film. I think it's just gonna be a movie about a haunted house and weird ppl in a hamlet, but the story is so much more than that.

And again : you can count on it that the end (and another rather explicit scene from the book i won't even mention here) won't be in it or altered.
Yeah I know several people who are too open minded they love LOTR as a film. They say that the movies are better than the book. I am one of the few people at my school that have also read the book and agree that the book is better.
I have a rule about movies. If it was adapted from a book, I have to read the book first. I was going to watch Dreamcatcher, but held my self back and didn't. I have yet to see that and Secret Window. I have read Secret Window, Secret Garden and enjoyed it. I don't think that I ever disliked a Stephen King book to date. I have loved everyone of his books and hope to own every one of his books, along with Tolkien's as well.
I just read on IMDB that Steven Spielberg is making a movie based on Stephen King's book "The Talisman", which is one of my favourite King novels, and linked to King's epic work : the Dark Tower cycle. The movie should come out somewhere next year. I've always wanted to see a movie about this book.

(if this turns out to be a hoax, then Virumor will be very sad and mad)

Perhaps we can even hope for a movie about Black House, the sequel to The Talisman, if the movie will be a success. I certainly hope so!

As Steven Spielberg is one of the best directors ever, i don't think we can fear a movie that is only loosely based on the books (a "PJ", like we say in Hollywood). Besides, The Talisman is actually very fitted to be made into a movie.

I'm perhaps over-optimistic (an optimist is a misinformed pessimist, after all but what the hey) but this movie could become the best King-movie ever, together with the monumental The Shawshank Redemption and Green Mile.

Let's face it, any other SK movie safe perhaps The Shining wasn't really bad, but also not really memorable : Dreamcatcher, Misery, Pet Sematary, It, Tommyknockers, Christine, Secret Window,...

In the mean time, we can go watch Bag of Bones... also one of my favourite books. I don't really have high expectations for that one, though.

Perhaps in the near future, the DT will be made into film (*include mixed feelings*) ?
Personally, I have always loved Stephen King. Reading one of the books is like aproaching a dog you don't know- it just might bite at you, but that's half the thrill.
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Reading one of the books is like aproaching a dog you don't know- it just might bite at you, but that's half the thrill

Ah yes, very nasty indeed. Especially when that dog is Cujo.