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Just got together with the most fantastic girl in the world so my life is perfect right now
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And by the way i don't know many girls whose best friends are male! That's an interesting thing! But be sure about that: Your boyfriend wouldn't like it so much.r
rr Ater, I have actually about 5 best friends, 4 of them are boys!!!! I've always been one of the boys!!!!!! I used to be on the football team! lol!!!! anyway, I do have a girl best friend, who's here crying cause i never mention her. Anyway, I don't get why a boyfriend should be jelous of me having my best friends coming over for the day and us havin fun, i mean..... you are a boy, tell me why would anyone be jelous!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wiggle Smilie Exploding Head Smilie Very Big Grin Smilie Smoke Smilie Cat Smilie Got The Blues Smilie Dog Smilie Pary Smilie Shaking Head Smilie
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WE GET JEALOUS ABOUT THE WOMEN WE LOVE!
I keep getting into trouble with my girlfriend because I don't. She can't simply accept that I trust her, but reasons instead that I can't really love her if I don't get jealous.

And yes it does get easier; both in terms of "time heals" and the number of times it happens. After a while you just become rather attuned to getting dumped and treat it not as an ending, but as an opportunity to start afresh with someone else. There again, my favorite remerdy for getting over someone has always been to start seeing someone else as soon as possible. You just have to remember to treat everyone as individuals and not compare them.

As for giving lame excuses.... I've never actually dumped anyone so I haven't had to. I usually find a way for them to dump me, and then try not to make them feel too bad about doing it. Tell a lie... I dumped my current girlfriend about a month ago (for compassionate reasons) and less than two minutes later agreed to marry her (I don't quite know what went wrong there). First though, I've got to get divorced (my wife thinks I've just nipped out to get a packet of fags Big Laugh Smilie )

Funny, when I write it down my love-life suddenly looks quite complicated Smile Smilie

My advice... just get on and enjoy it all. It may seem it at the time, but a breakup of a relationship is not the end of the world. There is always someone else who can fill that gap if you want them to.
You guys are soooo nice.... I wonder what the other girls think about you theory..... I know that jelousy eats you alive at times, but so many times you people make a national issue out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 It's like so funny, anyway, I'm so glad for Per!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you'll have a nice time together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you people think girls get more or less jelous of boys?
Hey Arwen, you know what I've told you about guys... There are always new ones out there! Wink Smilie

As for a story, well.. I was together with one guy for one year and two months. Then one day he broke up with me without telling me why. I still haven't gotten a reason. He told me he wasn't in love with me anymore, but later on a mutual friend told me he still was in love with me, he just said he wasn't to make it easier. I'm still confused about everything, but I've moved on. Right now I'm happily single. After all, boys come and go, but friends remain. Smile Smilie
You know what I find stupid and it really gets on my nerves,well I'm gonna tell you.
When you return from being out and someone says "oh its you" what of cousre its me who else would it be or "your back then" no I'm still out I'm just projecting my form throgh the Astral plane by the way how was you day.
Why do people have to state the obivious god it gets on my nerves.
Heh, I usually get "I just can't understand you, you're a bloody nutcase" which is terribly unfair, along with "I can't cope with your mood swings, but I still Love you" which is just dumb. And why the hell do women always go into relationships with guys and hope that they can change them into what they actually want, rather than what they are? Why not just find a guy who IS what you wanted in the first place?

I'm very lucky there, My girlfriend really wanted a guy like me, and had been making do before that with sub-standard material. Just for once I'm not being nagged to cut off my hair and get a real job WOOHOO!
Jeeee lets see

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Arwen : I told you about us-boys- Now it's your turn. Share your knowledge about girls with us.


Well, I couldn't possible answer that, Iím the least jealous person on earth, once i went on a school business trip, and i knew my boyfriend had had a one night stand with my best friend and he knew i knew, and I didn't say anything, call me crazy, but I thought he was just hormone crazy, he said he couldn't love me cause i was not jealous. i guess that's the treatment t many of you guys get, go figure why people do it. I personally wouldn't want a boyfriend to be jealous, it gets annoying, that's why I am not.

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And why the hell do women always go into relationships with guys and hope that they can change them into what they actually want, rather than what they are? Why not just find a guy who IS what you wanted in the first place?


First of all, I don't think anyone knows what they really want, and second of all, I think you should never look for the perfect person, the one you want, the one that fits perfectly. And i do not think you should try to change some thing, i believe in what i heard once form a very wise teacher of mine, which is now at war in Iraq (God bless him and save him, because I don't know what I would have done without him and I know that there are so many people out there that could use a friend like he was to me), anyway, Bobby, that's how he let me call him, told me once "Love isn't about kisses and physical pleasure, it is not about the looks. Love is not about finding the perfect match, but it is about learning to see a person perfectly." I took that statement as a way of living. Since i heard that, I was able to see the world from a different prospective, and I think that everyone should give it a try.

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"It's not you, it's me", i get fairly frequently
Translation="It's not me, It's you"


Dear Rhodry, yeah well, men do get that a lot, and you are right, it's never us, it's always you..... lol just kidding, actually I've gotten that once, I started laughing, and I told him "How stupid do you think I am?". You know, I've always thought that everyone around me was a lot better that I am, but then after that experience, Iíve learned that nobody is born any better or any worse than other, what matters, is how you choose to be. I know i would never say that to anyone, because I would be a liar, I always thought and I still believe that the truth is bad in short terms, but good in long term, because small pain is better than getting scared for a life time.

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Hey Arwen, you know what I've told you about guys... There are always new ones out there!


Yeah there are Aire, but what if sometimes you wish there weren't????? LOL! I think the world has too high levels of testosterone everywhere........ but it's probably just me........... go figure lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Share your knowledge about girls with us.


Dear Aster, i decided to quote you again, because this doesn't have anything to do with jealousy and break ups. This is a secret I will reveal about the world of women, so that you have a little bit more success in life!!!!!!!! i think that there is never anything wrong with any guy, what you people do not considerate is the power and intrigue of the WWWN. The WWWN also known as the World Wide Women Network, is known to be the fastest and most used form of communication by humans, particularly women. You see, men never remember that even if they share a little secret with their little buddies, there is a way that the WWWN comes to know about it and tell to the person who should have been told by one of you in the first place. It can be a problem, a comment or anything else, the point is, that is what ruins you people, keep you mouth shut, or if you have to say something, I strenuously suggest you tell it to your girl, cause when she gets to know about it using the WWWN, nothing will save you.

The whole point of this is:

BE TRUE, BE SINCERE, LOVE US AND WE'LL LOVE YOU BACK.

With love
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There are always new ones out there!
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Aire i don't agree with you about that. I think if you think that way,it'd be easier to finish a relationship because you know that you'll find someone new.
For most of my life I thought I had to be in a relationship otherwise society would view me as being strange. It is after all the norm to be married and have 2.2 children.

After the breakdown of my marriage, however, I started thinking about what I really wanted, and came to the realisation that I enjoyed life whether I was in a relationship or not. For once, I was really content in the knowledge I was in charge of my own destiny because it no longer relied on me having a woman.

I don't know whether women can sense this attitude in a man, though, because almost immediately upon coming to this realisation, I was being hit upon almost everytime I went out for a beer. I am now pretty much settled down again with someone I've been seeing for the past few years, but throughout this relationship I have never experienced those dark feelings associated with the fear of being dumped.

In the past the pain of being single was often greater than the pain of staying together, but now I know there is no longer a pain of being single. I enjoy life whether single or part of a relationship. It maybe makes me a heartless b*****d to be going out with, but it has made life so much easier for me.
Wise words Valedhelgwath and I mean that. Sitting reading through your post. I have to agree with you man.
Just thought I would say.
Very Sad Smilie ive never had a boyfriend before. *sobs*
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Very Sad Smilie ive never had a boyfriend before. *sobs*


YOU DO NOT WANT ONE!!!!!! THEY ARE ONLY PAIN AND TEARS IN THE END!!!!

Here it is why, lets say you meet someone now, lets say that you guys fall in real love (lets use the word love very freely), lets get to the point where we say that you guys spend the rest of your lifes together, one of you will die first, there are 22% more possibilities that it'll be him = pain, tears and sadness, why go thought all that?
Oh dear, that was a depressing post! We can't go around ans constantly be afraid of beeing left behind or dumped.
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why go thought all that?
Because of the wonderfull memories and times you will share! Of course it is ok to live alone and not have any girlfriends or boyfriends, but to shy away from love because you might get hurt is almost like not opening your christmas presents because it might not be what you wanted, and you'll never recive what might be the perfect gift.

Today I saw an elderly couple and their young grandson in the museum area feeding the ducks in the pond. It was so idyllic, a true "kodac moment". This is an excample of what you might miss out on if you don't dare to love. And even if the man dies befor the lady, she can can still look at the photo I took of them by the pond and remeber the good times.
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Also i loved your guitar collection! Maybe one day we can play together(Me on drums you on Guitar)




Cheers, d'you wanna buy any of 'em (skint again) sounds a good idea, good drummers are hard to come by.

Also, unless you are happy being single. you can NEVER be happy with somebody else. Trust me on this, just for once Val's got something right! *gobsmacked* Wink Smilie
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YOU DONT WANT ONE !!!!!! THEY ARE ONLY PAIN AND TEARS AT THE END!!!!

Well, since ive never had one, i wouldnt know or understand Very Sad Smilie
Learn to play it of course, you need to be varied, everyone does. It's more fun (btw, love those lyrics you keep putting in your journal). Though Drummer remember is a bit too much like Remember you're a Womble, which I'm gonna be humming all day now.
Did you not write them yourself then? Or am I being dumb again? I still think if you just stick to what you're best at then you may never find out what other things you're pretty good at. I thought I was best as a Piano player til i picked up a guitar, I'm a pretty fair Pianist still, and a d@mn good bass player, and an average drummer, not too shabby with harmonicas, mandolins, banjos and anything else I can get my hands on either. And I might never have tried my hand at writing, web-design or anything else I do these days if I just stuck to what I was best at, I think it's far better to try and stretch yourself a bit.
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I'm a pretty fair Pianist still, and a d@mn good bass player, and an average drummer, not too shabby with harmonicas, mandolins, banjos and anything else I can get my hands on either. And I might never have tried my hand at writing, web-design or anything else I do these days if I just stuck to what I was best at, I think it's far better to try and stretch yourself a bit.


Wow Plastic!, But also well said! it's important to try new things....I love to. Right now my thing is giving lessosns, music lessons to kids. It is so much fun. I teach guitar, violin, piano and flute as instruments. I also teach history of music, reading and writing music and singing. It's the best thing ever!!!!!!! Everytime one of the klids finish a book (leverl) I take him/her to Kings Dominion park, and I take him/her on the roller coasters. Just to make it fun, sometuimes my friends and I take 6 or 7 kids with us. Once my best friend and I went with 2 kids (my best friend is a boy) and we heard please behinde us saying "My god how old was she when she had the babies? And look how good she looks! So young and fit" It was sooo funny! I teach kids from 3 to 6 years old, and I look like i'm about 18, even if I'm only 15, so you could think that I look younger than i am and I had kids... it's hilarious when you hear people saying taht stuff. Anyway! I think that now I'll try buggy jumping with Lovro (my best friend)
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For most of my life I thought I had to be in a relationship otherwise society would view me as being strange. It is after all the norm to be married and have 2.2 children.

After the breakdown of my marriage, however, I started thinking about what I really wanted, and came to the realisation that I enjoyed life whether I was in a relationship or not. For once, I was really content in the knowledge I was in charge of my own destiny because it no longer relied on me having a woman.

I don't know whether women can sense this attitude in a man, though, because almost immediately upon coming to this realisation, I was being hit upon almost everytime I went out for a beer. I am now pretty much settled down again with someone I've been seeing for the past few years, but throughout this relationship I have never experienced those dark feelings associated with the fear of being dumped.

In the past the pain of being single was often greater than the pain of staying together, but now I know there is no longer a pain of being single. I enjoy life whether single or part of a relationship. It maybe makes me a heartless b*****d to be going out with, but it has made life so much easier for me.


Oh my God! I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk more sense than this! Thank you Val!
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HOLY COW!!! Man ; I'm talking to a real talent here.Maybe one day you can teach me how to play the guitar or the piano.

Heh, I'm jack of all trades master of none, you can hear the (slightly scary) results over on my website if you want to know more. Wish I could play horns and flutes and suchlike, but 14 years of chain smoking have left my lungs unable to cope with a wind instrument you can't suck.

And talent really is debatable you know, I'd hear what I do first...
OMG Plastic! You're a musical genious!! Big Smile Smilie I only play the piano, and I can't even manage to do that right! Lol!

Ooh, and btw Asteroth, I like your new avatar! Hehehe. Smile Smilie
Thoughs..... I'm mad at men.......
Men should not think nor talk, they shoudl just sit there and look pretty. If they cannot manage to look pretty, they should just go out and fix something. If they cannot fix anything, I suggest they take up suicide. lol, just kidding..........


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In the past the pain of being single was often greater than the pain of staying together, but now I know there is no longer a pain of being single. I enjoy life whether single or part of a relationship.


For me it was the other way around. The pain of staying together was much more painful than being single. It was just a matter of getting away. 6 months ago I got out of the most horrible relationship. A lot of mind games... I came out of it a emotionally broken person. It was scary being single, I had been convinced I was worthless and stupid for 2 years... I feel like a million bucks now. I've found myself again, I'm doing things I'd never thought I would do again, things that make me happy... I'm writing again... I was afraid to write when we were together because it would just be another thing he could critizied me about.

I like being single, but sometimes I wish I could start dating again...I've had plenty of opportunities, but I get scared.

Some people can be really evil. And that's really stupid.
I'm so sorry Kaimelar. I'm really glad you got away from that creap! People (if you can call them that) like that makes me so mad! I want to hit them so hard they come to their senses and see what they are doing to people, as it seemes mind games and violence is the only language they know!!! Unfortunatly I'm short, weak and barely able to kill a fly (I'm too nice) so I can't save the world after all.. Sad Smilie

I am my own person, nobody can control me. (At least i hope not). I'm short tempered and stubborn as H*ll, but I rarely stay angry for long (lemming is a good descrition). I have a nice boyfriend who loves me for who I am and who knows trying to change me or making me do something I don't want only results in me biting his head of. Wink Smilie And I love him for who he is. And as long as he survives my tantrums, we'll be fine. Smile Smilie

I'm lucky.
to get on to serious matters. why some people cannot say something without turning it into a 30 min lecture. It gets on my nerves. It could have been said but no she had to go on and on about it. it gets right up my nose.
No dating...no dumping...but how will you find a husband/wife if you dont date?!
YOU DON'T IRENA. It's not that much of a loss..........
I'm loosing a friend right now, and he told me he has always been in love with me, all along, 5 years Irena, now he is leaving, and I will never see him again, and I'll live everyday of my life wondering if there would have been something more if he had not left. Sad Smilie
That's life........
Brother I think having a family is the best thing in the whole world.To have someone with you can share with and with you can laugh with.To have someone by your side when you feel alone...
Of course there are those times with scandals and all but I think it's normal for a family to have fights.(I try as hard as I can but I still can't remember the last time my parents had a fight)
Imagine what it's like being a father(it means much to me)!!!
Now don't send me any nghtmares ok...I just gave my opinion on this Smoke Smilie (I don't smoke)
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What's that saying again?? - "Better to have loved and lost, then never to have loved at all".

Wish I could help out and give some advice or something, but I'm relatively inexperinced. I have always been too busy or shy to date!! Starting to come out of my shell though......But really, would you any of you rather live with the regret of never knowing what could happen between you and a potential significant other??


I wouldn't, but you knwo, sometimes other things take you apart, just when you realize maybe something could have come out of it.. and what do you do then?
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I wouldn't, but you knwo, sometimes other things take you apart, just when you realize maybe something could have come out of it.. and what do you do then?

You just keep on living and find another relationship untill you have a perfect match(well nothing is perfect but you know what I mean).
I would just hate to miss my chance to relate with someone I really care about.To live this life on my own is something I am not capable of and I don't think anyone is.
I couldn`t get through life on my own. I`m a damzal in destress! Who shall save me I don`t know, but one thing i do know is that....hmm... let me think.....
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To live this life on my own is something I am not capable of and I don't think anyone is.
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I guess i am.I'll try and see.


That's right. You live life on attack, not defense. LIke in soccer, if you wanna score you play foward, not goal keeper. Nothing should be able to slow you down, no way. Yesterday is in the past, but tomorrow is coming fast. All you got is now, are you gonna spend it thinking if there is a perfect guy or chick for you out there? or are you gonna make the best of your life, and if a good chance comes along you get it?

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but one thing i do know is that....hmm... let me think.....


Death. When you sit down, and you think you don't anything for sure, and your life is closing up on you, think this, you know you WILL die. Build from there, are you going to die without trying? Or are you gonna have the best of the time you have? You don't know how much time is left till you run out. Just like me and my best friend, who's leaving, moving away, never coming back. Never give up, nothing can take you down, no way! Just look up, and think, "I wanna get there, to teh top". Now how do you you get there, is your choice.

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You just keep on living and find another relationship untill you have a perfect match(well nothing is perfect but you know what I mean).


You can't live your life thinking something new will come along, nor keeping searching for it always. What about your dreams? What about everything else you fought for before? Are you going to leave all that to look for a perfect match? And if you find it, and it askes you to give up on your dreams, are you going to? Not me. My dreams are all that's left. It's all that keeps me hanging on to reality. The promise that someday everything will be like I dream it everynight. I would never give all of that up for a guy. Never.

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I couldn`t get through life on my own


Anyone can do anything they want to do. Now you don't let anyone see you frown. YOu gotta turn it upside down! There is no point in crying and giving up, thinking that you only need another person with you to help get through it. It's all about you. Get ready and then you go. Once you do, there is no stop and no turnback. It's your life, are you goingt to waste it looking for someone? Nope. Never ever stop, try and try a lot. Till you get it right. Stand up and make some noise. Yell so that they hear your voice. When everyone says it's not possible. When everyone believes it is not possible. MAKE IT POSSIBLE. There is notghing you can't do. There is nothing better than your best. And if you believe you can do it, you will. Show them what you got, cause you got a lot! Big Smile Smilie

That's how I see it.
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Death. When you sit down, and you think you don't anything for sure, and your life is closing up on you, think this, you know you WILL die.


*Plastic sits open-mouthed and shivering with fright at this very frightening advice, listening for the sound of Axe-murderers on the stairs* Wink Smilie
One of those murderers is me! Big Laugh Smilie j/k! I hate to think I`m going to die, it`s really frightening...Just thinking that you`re going to die eventually makes me shiver. It sends a chill up my spine.... Sad Smilie Very Sad Smilie
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Plastic sits open-mouthed and shivering with fright at this very frightening advice, listening for the sound of Axe-murderers on the stairs*


Not that scary actually. I see it as a good thing. I mean, if you know you don't have infinite time, it helps you realize what are the things you really wanna do, and it gives energy to do it! Big Smile Smilie
Disturbed Smilie That`s very unusual, but I know what I`m doing when I`m older: forefilling my dreams! Big Smile Smilie
It's true though (can't remember who said this) but there are only two certainties in life, Death and Taxes. You've got to get used to the idea of both of them. I would fulfill my drreams, but generally they're too weird and have a lot of talking animals in them...
Death doesn't bother me a bit, it never has. I am a Christian and I am secure in my faith.
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It's true though (can't remember who said this) but there are only two certainties in life, Death and Taxes. You've got to get used to the idea of both of them. I would fulfill my drreams, but generally they're too weird and have a lot of talking animals in them...



Talking animals?
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I would fulfill my drreams, but generally they're too weird and have a lot of talking animals in them...


Big Laugh Smilie So, what animals would they be? Sheep??
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You can kiss a fool,
You can let a fool kiss you,
But never let a kiss fool you.

My motto on men and such Wink Smilie
The talking animals thing is just something that tends to happen in my dreams, on one notable occassion it was a Walrus, sitting on a table in a classroom of my old school, very odd. I have odd dreams, that's all, and btw. In colour (which apparently means something).
Never sheep though, thankfully.

And nice motto Andrea, lucky for me not a lot of women stick to that! Wink Smilie

As to the after-death thing, I don't know how far we can push it without getting too religious in the discussion, but I am happily unafraid of it for the exact opposite reason as Stony, heh.
Great motto! Ha Ha Ha Smilie

I'm going to have to start using that one...

BTW: Thanks to everyone that had such kind words in repsonse to my post. I was feeling pretty emotional the day I posted that and I'm glad that everyone here was kind enough to support me... This place is full of great people!


[Edited on 20/4/2003 by Kaimelar]
I don't know Asteroth. Death is there. why is it so spooky for you people to talk about it! I just don't get it.
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Unless you're an Indian.......then you don't have to pay the taxes!!
I assume that is a native American Indian of which you are speaking, Ringfacwen. I assume the Asian, African, and European ones have to pay their taxes just like everyone else. I'll also bet most American Indians (from both continents, North and South) pay many taxes too. But we don't need to get into politics here, do we. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie

Death: As you get older and your health has been failing for years, often death is looked for as a friend. I'm not talking suicide here, I'm saying that finally one just wants to lay down and give up the ghost like some of the Numenorean kings did a few years after they turned the reign over to their heirs and as did a couple of the women in Middle-earth, namely Rian and Arwen when they were heart-broken after their mates had died or been killed.

I like Death, the characters represented by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman in their respective books. Neither of these characters is scary, they are both nice beings who have a necessary job to do and usually move their clients along to wherever they are going with a gentle hand and a kind word. However, Terry's Death always speaks his kind words, as well as his not so kind, in CAPITAL LETTERS just to get your attention, and so you will know with whom you are dealing, he carries the traditional scythe and wears the traditional black cloak and cowl to cover his skeletal body. Neil's Death is a shapely young woman who wears either black satin or leather, a silver ankh on a chain as a necklace, and a twinkle in her eye. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie

(I got confused in my first paragraph and previously said "Arwen_RingBearer" instead of "Ringfacwen". This has now been corrected. :elfembar: )

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Unless you're an Indian.......then you don't have to pay the taxes!!
I assume that is a native American Indian of which you are speaking, Arwen_RingBearer. I assume the Asian, African, and European ones have to pay their taxes just like everyone else. I'll also bet most American Indians (from both continents, North and South) pay many taxes too. But we don't need to get into politics here, do we. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie


It wasn't me that said that. if there is one thing I don't knwo about is american taxes, why should i know about it?????????????????????????????????????????

Whoops Grondy,
I think you meant Ringfacwen.
Quite right Nell. Sorry Arwen_RingBearer, that is the second time I've got you mixed up in my head and why I usually copy the names. Of course I probably saw the "ring" and copied it without thinking. I was running on empty when I read this tavern last night (my time).

I'll go back and edit my post. Sorry. :elfembar:

No prob Grondy
See the problems taxes bring?? Big Laugh Smilie
I don`t pay taxes either, horay. I`m sure I won`t enjoy it when it comes to that time though.... Sad Smilie Very Sad Smilie
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