Thread: Elvish language
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Tolkien did invent all the languages used in his book, except the English. ()
I wonder how he managed to invent them all, and be logical still the same. Guess he must have been both a genious and a madman. (Plastic's favourite topic, btw)
This tale ... was primarily linguist in inspiration and was begun in order to provide the necessary background of 'history' for Elvish tongues.
Tolkien did invent all the languages used in his book, except the English.
True, but al least he has been credited in Oxford dictionary anyway for the invention of the word 'hobbit'.
I also remember reading somewhere that that around the time Tolkien wrote LotR, the acceptable plural forms of 'dwarf' was 'dwarfs' and not 'dwarves' - Tolkien bitched about that somewhere I think. But now, both 'dwarfs' and 'dwarves' are acceptable.
You've got me started now...
[Edited on 25/1/2002 by Ungoliant]
Tommy Girl is ok, ta Grondy.
Is the word hobbit actually in the Oxford dictionary. That would be a good one.
Yeah it's in Oxford dic. Dunno if it's in Websters too, although I don't see why not.
hobbit · n a member of an imaginary race similar to humans, of small size and with hairy feet, in stories by J. R. R. Tolkien.
-origin 1937:invented by Tolkien in his book The Hobbit, and said by him to mean 'hole-dweller'.
Interesting that the word got into the dictionary. I wonder how many more fantasy-based words are in there.
hob'bit, n. [coined in a novel (1938) by J.R.R. Tolkien.] an imaginary being having a very small human form with some rabbitlike qualities, and characterized by sociability, domesticity, and a peace-loving nature.
Was "sparm" the term used in 'Watership Down' as the state of being immobilized by headlights or a foxes' stare or was it some other word?
it's "tharn", I think. Funny how I remember that and I don't remember useful stuff.
Funny how I remember that and I don't remember useful stuff.
I keep wondering about that all the time...
Rabbitlike? What's that supposed to mean??? I like this though. JRR Tolkien in an Oxford Dictionary. My English teacher will love it!
Oooh! Found this, Oxford dic. 10th ed.:
orc · n (in fantasy, literature and games) a member of an imaginary race of ugly, warlike human-like cratures.
- origin C16 (denoting an ogre): perh. from L. orcus 'hell' or Ital. 'orco' 'monster'; the word was popularized by Tolkien's fantasy adventures
One more! Yay!
well, if anyone, like me, has too much time on their hands, I think that you should try and learn to speak sindarin (or grey-elven) which is the most common elven language in ME in the third age. A good site for this is http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/sindarin.htm
Hi there Dûrwingiel, don't think we've met. Pleased to meet you.
Are you learning Sindarin though? If yes, is it easy? I've seen the links on this forum, can you just learn from there or is there a good 'Sindarin in Seven Weeks' book/tape available?
[Edited on 16/2/2002 by Ungoliant]
Yes, I am (trying to ) learn Sindarin at the moment, and I wouldnt say that its especially hard. (at least if you compare it with mandarin (written )
You dirty little Tr*kkie..... :P
I speak Dutch, French, German, English, and I can write and translate Latin, how about that! And I'm only 18... :P
I'm preparing to learn Sindarin as well... Hope it works!
I've been away much too long! A lot to catch up with, so to see...
Lady Undomiel, if u are interested in Elvish pls contact me (Morelen@tolkienmail.com).
Oh yes...I´m very proud of Finnish...here you have something...Tolkien´s quenya (High Elves´ language) is based on Finnish, Latin and Greek.. the most important of these were Finnish... Check this out..: http://www.sci.fi/~alboin/finn_que.htm
Thank you! I can see myself spending a lot of time at this site!
Does Allyssa know about this? There's tons of biographical info that she might find useful.
[Edited on 7/13/02 by ProgHead777]
Enjoy the course in Elvish.
This is awesome!
@ Rednell (purely theoretically speaking of course )
what is THE LOTR elvbish???????????
1; a good Sindarin-English and English-Sindarin
2; a name translator in Sindarin
Good luck and enjoy.