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Tommy: The answer was found on the second page of the first story in my hardback Silmarillion. Now that you have a copy you can also read Genesis according to Tolkien. Big Smile Smilie
Which race were called the "Heavy Handed" and by whom?
the dwarfs? by the elfs? coz they always wear heavy tools or blunt axes??

it's all geuss work here
You're half right Boring.
The dwarves by sb or the sbs by the elves?
Big Smile Smilie
My guess is the dwarves by the men. Smile Smilie
maybe thats cause i have half a brain Smile Smilie
I can't answer any of these questions (not even if I memorized all the movies) - even though I've read the books (once). How many times have all of y'all read the LOTR series? I've read Hobbit a few times, maybe 4 or 5, but only the LOTR series once (tried to read FOTR several times, but always give up at council of elrond...)

[Edited on 11/5/2002 by swampfaye]
hm I only remember something of "heavy handed" when Pippin talks with Beregond and replies somthing like "my hands are not heavy" but I don't what it was about then.
The Eldar called Men "The Heavy Handed", probably because we are compared to them.
Yeah, Ar-Pharazon (or Tar-Calion in Elvish, do I get extra credit for that?) And Faye, I for one have lost count of how many times I've read the middle-Earth books (see elsewhere for my recent disinterest in them). And ta for the Answer Alyssa, I was never gonna get it! Would have had to look it up, and I don't do that.
did i get it right in one go????
Probably, but like I say I never look anything up.
I've lost count of how many times I've read LoTR...but I never remember all the names. Got conned by Sarte when I was a kid - he said that our minds have a limited storage capacity, so he would purposely forget trivial details in order not to clog up his memory banks. Should have figured out that he's French, and lazy.
Yup, Boring gets the Pseudo-Silmaril.

So then, What arts did the Dunedain prize above all others?
Uh, Performing arts, like in The kids from Fame with legwarmers and that?
Craftwork? Things like the dwarves made, I mean? Smile Smilie
I read the hobbit 2 or 3 times, but LOTR only once. I'm planning to read it again though. Big Smile Smilie
Would it be sailing and shipbuilding? Since the Numenoreans loved sailing so much
Well, 'Meduseld' was what I was looking for, but when I went back and read "The King of the Golden Hall", I couldn't find the words 'great feast hall' in Tolkien's text, even though it was a great and its description was culturally that of a feast hall. 'Meduseld' is the 'Golden Hall' and they held a 'great feast', 'the funeral feast of Theoden the King' in that hall in ROTK, Book 6, Chapter 6 entitled 'Many Partings'.

Maybe the direct reference was in one of the poems or maybe this is just adds to my weekly quota/allowance of mistakes. Wink Smilie

Allyssa gets the Pseudo-Silmaril. Smile Smilie

Okay Mr. Squirrel, if this was this your answer you get to keep your Cuddly Badger, if it wasn't you can feed it to Ungoliant. Big Smile Smilie

What was the destination of the River Running?

Gee, this was post 300 and I'm still a moderator. :P[Edited on 17/1/2002 by Grondmaster]
Yep, Meduseld was my answer, and it was very easy indeed. And you've got to admit she's got you there Grond! Wink Smilie Is it not the long lake and esgaroth? Or does it go right up to the Lonely Mountain itself? Or have I got the wrong river?
No, it was not a tributary of Anduin, the Great River of Wilderland.

Yes the destiny of most rivers is an ocean or the sea. But in this case, what is its name?

Note: River Celduin is another name for the River Running. The Lonely Mountain was one of the sources of the River Running, others were the Ered Mithrin via the Forest river and the Mountains of Mirkwood via the Enchanted River and an unnamed river. And Long Lake is only a wide spot in the River Running.

Hint: The maps in 'The Hobbit' show too much detail. [Edited on 18/1/2002 by Grondmaster]
Okay, so we're going that way are we? Then it flows into the River Carnen before going into the Sea of Rhun. Happy now? I've got as many books as you have Grond Wink Smilie
Yeah but, I don't have to make a major effort to reach mine. Big Smile Smilie And if I make every question too easy it gets answered by the very next person and there remains nothing for the people on the other side of the globe to think about.

Find the 'odd man out': Amras, Amrod, Celegorm, Maeglin, Maglor.
Like this one? Big Smile Smilie Maeglin.
Indeed Plastic Squirrel, Maeglin was not a son of Feanor. Although he did exhibit similar behaviour to some of them...Maybe he was a long lost love child?
Did know the Sea of Rhun answer, but don't know this last one. Guess Plastic's right though... He mostly is... Big Smile Smilie

The answers to my question were:
Mithrandir/Grey Pilgrim by the Elves
Stormcrow by Wormtongue
Grayhame by the Rohirrim
TharkŻn by the Dwarves

So you didn't guess it, did you? Haha! :P
The Plastic Squirrel's gets a Pseudo-Silmaril! The Plastic Squirrel's gets a Pseudo-Silmaril! The Plastic Squirrel's gets a Pseudo-Silmaril! Big Smile Smilie

You are right Tommy, nobody guessed Tharkun. So I guess you get a Pseudo-Silmaril too. Does your European keyboard have the special characters like the ewe wearing the coolie hat, the umlaut, etc. or do you have special codes to make them? Smile Smilie

Another odd man out: Beren, Frodo, Gelmir, Maedhros, Maglor, Morgoth, or Sauron [Edited on 20/1/2002 by Grondmaster]
Frodo - only one not ever in Beleriand?
Well I guess that is true, so you get a Pseudo-Silmaril.

However, that wasn't the connection I had in mind. Care to try again for another? [Edited on 22/1/2002 by Grondmaster]
frodo the only one born in the third age?
Oh Shucky-Darn! Another correct answer for which I wasn't looking. :o

Boring gets another Pseudo-Silmaril. Smile Smilie

You all get another hack at it, to see if you can finally cut through to the meat of the problem. Big Smile Smilie
Frodo only Hobbit? Big Smile Smilie
Frodo the omly one with a speaking part in Lotr?
okay I think I have it it has some thing to do with their Hands and fingers.. or to be precise not having them.

Lost his hand; The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, 19 of beren and luthien P 214


But Charcharoth looked upon that holy Jewel and was not daunted, and the devouring spirit within him awoke to sudden fire; and gaping he took suddenly the hand within his jaws, and he bit it off at the wrist.

OKay we know that story Gollum bit of his finger

lost his hands and feet; The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, 20 Of the fifth Battle P 226


Then the Captain of Morgoth sent out riders with tokens of parley, and they rode up before the outworks of barad Eithel. With them they brought Gelmir son of Guillin, that lord of Nargothrond whom they captured in the Bragolach; and they blinded him. Then the heralds of Angband showed him forth, crying: "We have many more such at home, but you must make haste if you would find them; for we shall deal with them all when we return even so." And they hewed off Gelmir's hands and feet, and his head last, within sight of the Elves and left him.

Lost his hand when he was freed of thangorodrim

Son of Feanor and was great in music, It think this will be the odd name out Smile Smilie

Morgoth His proper name Melkor:
His foot was hewed; The SIlmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, 18 Othe ruin of Beleriand and the fall of Fingolfin P 179


But at last the King grew weary, and Morgoth bore down his sheild upon him, Thrice he was chrushed to his knees, and thrice arose again and bore up his broken shield and stricken helm. But the earth was rent and pitted about him, and he stumbled and fell backward before the feet of Morgoth; and Morgoth set his left foot upon his neck, and the weigth of it was like a fallen hill. Yet with his last and desperate stroke fingolfin hewed the foot with Ringil, and blood gushed forth black and smoking and filled the pits of Grond.

Isildur cut of His finger thus the ring and got the ring in possesion.
actually I found it a conincedence that sauron and frodo lost their finger and meadrhos lost his hand and I knew Melkor lost some limb so I got my Sil and UT out of the bookcase adn did a bit of research...

No time for your new question though.. have to take a shower
the Watcher in the Water ate Oin...Oin was Gimli's uncle (Gloin's brother).

I'm afraid I can't name him, Grondie. It's upset Shelob to know that her father's currently in jail. Wink Smilie
Chikakat gets a Pseudo-Silmaril for her correct answer. The Watcher in the Water (same one that grabbed Frodo) killed Gimli's Uncle Oin, which he learned from the diary found in Balin's Tomb. Smile Smilie

And for Ungoliant's creative excuse for not answering her question:
TA-TAA Ungoliant receives a Pseudo-Silmaril of her very own to love and cherish, at least until she swallows it. Big Smile Smilie
To whom does the following description apply?
Blue was her raiment as the unclouded heaven, but her eyes were grey as the starlit evening; her mantle was sewn with golden flowers, but her hair was dark as the shadows of twilight. As the light upon the leaves of trees, as the voice of clear waters, as the stars above the mists of the world, such was her glory and her loveliness; and in her face was a shining light.
Hehe, thanks Grondie!

And another one for me! The answer is, of course, Luthien.
Hey Ungoliant, you better watch it, this makes three Pseudo-Silmarils for you in as many days, and they can be habit forming, not to mention are probably loaded with calories and cholesterol. Cool Smilie

Which Lord of the Eagles inflicted great wounds on Melkor? [Edited on 27/1/2002 by Grondmaster]
Thorondor was it not?
Hah, I'm not a pseudo-Simarilholic, I can quit anytime I want...yeah, sure I can.

Who's Mellor, Grondie? Wink Smilie
Allyssa got it right; one Pseudo-Silmaril for her even though my fingers had typed 'Mellor'. Smile Smilie

To what office had Robbin Smallburrow been appointed, under the Chief, ?
missuse of muggle artefacts !

To what office had Robbin Smallburrow been appointed, under the Chief, ?

Dang! Allyssa got here first! Smile Smilie I was gonna say Shirrif...thought it's was weirdly spelled in LotR.
It is spelt Shirriff in the book. ADJUDICATOR?

Okay then...
Who or what was Annatar?
Annatar = "Lord of the Gifts" = Sauron (in his fair form)

(I think...)
Allyssa gets a Pseudo-Silmaril for Shirriff. Smile Smilie

Chikakat has the right answer for Annator, she can have a Pseudo-Silmaril if Plastic Squirrel has no Cuddly Badgers to offer. Smile Smilie

What was the significance of the number 42 in 'The Lord of the Rings'?
[Edited on 29/1/2002 by Grondmaster]
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