Thread: A dwarvish question - Valedhelgwath? Anyone?
Erebor - Settled in TA 1999 by Thrain's people fleeing from Moria.
Ered Mithrin - TA 1440 a small colony from Moria settled at Silverplunge nr Mt Gondmaerglom. Scatha the Worm wiped out this colony in TA 1635. Other dwarven colonies in the Grey Mountains continued to prosper for 400 yrs, and were joined by others from Erebor in TA 2002. Between TA 2550 - 2590 most of the dwarven mines were destroyed by dragons from the Withered Heath.
Iron Hills - First settled by Gror in TA 2590 after the dwarves fled from the Ered Mithrin.
Blue Mountains - After the fall of Belegost and Nogrod at the end of the FA these mines seemed to have been deserted until the period TA 2810 - 2941.
As you can see, Cathol, for the period you are covering, the dwarves are mainly hiding deep within Moria. Of the seven dwarven tribes, only the line of Durin is mentioned as far as I can see. The other six tribes migrated South and East, I believe, although I did read somewhere that there was a tribe near the Mountains around the Sea of Rhun at the beginning of the TA.
Hope this is of some help.
It sounds as is the question of early Third Age Dwarvish location is somewhat open. I would like to postulate that a colony of Dwarves was in the Iron Hills in the third century of the Third Age, when Legolas was a lad in my stories, even if they later migrated or died. Also, I would like to have a Dwarf family or so (rich of course) in the foothills of the Lonely Mountain overlooking the Village of Long Lake - not Lake Town but a predecessor village many centuries before Lake Town. Both the village and the Dwarf settlements near the Lonely Mountain and the Iron Hills can dissappear a couple of centuries later without doing damage to the canon. Don't you think? Regards - Chathol-linn
Both the village and the Dwarf settlements near the Lonely Mountain and the Iron Hills can dissappear a couple of centuries later without doing damage to the canon. Don't you think?
[Edited on 28/8/2002 by Grondmaster]
In my in-progress story of “How Legolas Claimed Two White-handled Longknives” the Dwarves currently hold the knives per “Elflocks – How Legolas Cured His Sister of Teasing.” The mad Dwarf Ibun took them. The Long Lake Dwarves (just one family and their servants) chase after a thief, whose name is Welsh for “to weep”. The pursuing Orcs stumble across more juicy meat, the Elves, but mark the Long Lake Dwarves for later vengeance. After the conclusion of the Orcs’ interaction with the Elves, intensified by Legolas’s invasion of Zalog the Orc in the last segment of “Legolas and the Olóre Mallë”, the Orcs follow the Dwarves’ backtrail to the Lonely Mountain and – whatever happens to the lone family, the hall remains for centuries because Theall was a good builder. I don’t know what happens to the Iron Hill Dwarves yet, but it will probably not be a weather-related incident.
As long as we don’t violate the canon, can’t we use poetic license? Best regards – Chathol-linn
Say, any chance of publishing "“Legolas and the Olóre Mallë”? It is in 3 parts but all are finished. It explores the Elvish phenomena of memory, prophecy and dreams.
Best tegards -Chathol-linn
Many people have asked about your story, Chathol, and why isn't it up yet. A few admin. hiccups regarding the Fan Writings section, is all. Once we get things ironed out, I am sure it wil be up there promptly
There are three parts to the story right? Its in three separate files? If I cant find my copy I may have to ask you for another one. My old printer broke down, and I seem to have lost some stuff...
I've been sat on all three parts for a while now. I sent them on to Allyssa a while ago but I think the e-mail must have got lost in cyberspace (I've been having a few problems with it recently)
They should be on the way now. Let us know if you received them.
I find it hard to believe that no one saw a dwarf for over 2000 years. There are bound to have been other mines and colonies scattered throughout ME. If there's a mountain, there's a dwarf in my book.
They should be on the way now. Let us know if you received them
Received Valedhelgwath, thanks.
No problem about the Olóre Mallë stories. Actually i'm rather glad they did not go up. I wanted to incorporate comments and I finally finished. I sent the 3 pieces to Alyssa at email@example.com. If possible I hope you will use those versions and not the earlier ones I sentto tolkienmail.com.
Your council review committee is a great idea. It is so much more meaningful to appear at a site that has standards. Best regards - Chathol-linn