Thread: Fatty (Fredegar) Bolger
I think Plastic meant with bravery the sense of adventure, and dealing with all the strange things out there. If a Black Rider passed my door, I think I'd go running as well!
Is that audio version of yours available on video as well, Grondy? Guess not...
what audio version?
so you ppl listen to LOTR, read LOTR and watch LOTR and talk about LOTR???
wow. such devotion. i'm moved.
anyway, who would they have got to play fatty?
And Fatty would have been easy to put in the movie, if they'd just done the Shire PROPERLY!!! (And the innkeeper (Butterbur) lives in Bree not the shire.)
Let's say they put Fatty in. What part would they have given him (in the movie as it is now) or what part would they have added to the movie in order to get him in properly?
1) Break it up into 6 movies instead of three. Make up different titles. Their contents would be:
Episode 1 - A bit of the War of Wrath, and the Fall of Numenor.
Episode 2 - History of the Dunedain/Witch King/Rohirrim etc. up (stuff in the appendices) to the beginning of Book 1 in LotR
Episode 3 - Book 1 and part of book 2, ending at the Council of Elrond.
Episode 4 - Remainder of book 2, and book 3 until Helm's Deep.
Episode 5 - Remainder of book 3, and all of book 4
Episode 6 - RotK
2) Steal Lucas' idea and release Episode 4, 5 & 6 first. Then, when everyone's hooked, release Episodes 1, 2 & 3.
Then, I'd go back and make Silm in its entirety.
i do think that's a bit too much. gives me a headache just thinking about all those dvd's i'll have to buy!
D*mn, turning into James Brown in the Blues Brothers again...
Too much Tolkien, I can't believe it... Too much Bloom or Jackson, I do believe, but you can never get enough of Tolkien, surely! :P I know you can, I've been there too... But I've recovered...
Tolkien doesn't say very much about Fatty in the book, just those begining parts that say he was Frodo's friend and the scenes at Crickethollow, and then in the end they go and rescue him from the jail. I think he was very brave, though, as brave as the rest of them in a different way, I agree with Frodo when he said that he would rather be them running away from the Black Riders than waiting for them! But I often wonder how much of a friend Frodo considered him to be.
I could never have enough Tolkien. I am amazed by something else, every time I read Tolkien.
And I agree with you too, Sam, when you say I'd rather be running away from the BR than having to wait for them. I'd rather go with Frodo all the way to Mordor than having to wait for Sauron to come to the Shire. Same thing, really.
I am amazed by something else, every time I read Tolkien.
Couldn't agree more. Though, when you have read the book three times in three month's time because you have to write an essay about it, it might get a tiny bit over the top. Drove me bananas anyway. But I never looked upon it again for a whole month and then I was fine again.
I think Fatty represents the oridnary good hobbit, the one who, after having played his perhaps minor part, is contented to sit back and watch his friends become heroes.
[Edited on 3/10/2002 by Samwisegamgee]