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Olorimė
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Posted Saturday 23rd July 2005 (11:00pm)
It seems the more I learn about Elves, the more I need to know. Wink Smilie

Anyways...

I have a few questions concerning Middle Earth and the Elves...

1) Is there chocolate in Middle Earth? I should say, does Tolkien mention chocolate in Middle Earth? I mean, even if there is no mention of chocolate there still could be chcolate there, right? Or at least a distant relative of chocolate?

2) Why did King Thingol ban Quenya?

3) At the time of the Lord of the Rings, were the only Elves living in Mirkwood, Rivendell, and Lothlorien? Or were there other smaller settlements in places like Rohan and Gondor?

4) Is there anything at all said about Rhūn? Anything at all?

I ask these questions because they've been burning in my mind.
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Miruvor
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Posted Saturday 23rd July 2005 (11:17pm)
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1) Is there chocolate in Middle Earth? I should say, does Tolkien mention chocolate in Middle Earth? I mean, even if there is no mention of chocolate there still could be chcolate there, right? Or at least a distant relative of chocolate?

Maybe there are cacao beans in the far Harad, and maybe they make chocolate there. Alas, JRRT never wrote anything about that.

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2) Why did King Thingol ban Quenya?

He didn't really like that the sons of Fėanor killed his ppl at the First Kinslaying, hence he banned the language of them evil Noldor.

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3) At the time of the Lord of the Rings, were the only Elves living in Mirkwood, Rivendell, and Lothlorien? Or were there other smaller settlements in places like Rohan and Gondor?

There were Elves in Mithlond as well, with Cķrdan as their Lord, not to mention Avari in other parts of Middle-Earth.

No Elves in Rohan (safe in PJ's movies, where suddenly a group of Elves popped up at Helm's Deep), but there used to be Elven havens near Dol Amroth.

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4) Is there anything at all said about Rhūn? Anything at all?

Denethor said to Pippin one of his ancestors hunted for bizons/cows in Rhūn. That's where he got the Horn of Gondor.

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I ask these questions because they've been burning in my mind.

I saw Backdraft today. Good movie.

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It seems the more I learn about Elves, the more I need to know.

That's not normal. You should have your head checked.
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Olorimė
has made 156 posts and is a Hobbit from Hobbiton and is not online.
Posted Monday 25th July 2005 (02:06pm)
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That's not normal. You should have your head checked.


I already did, but they couldn't do anything about it.

Thanks for the answers. ^_^

Okay, an Elf has 4 names.
1. Given to her by her mother.
2. Given to her by the Elf that raised her.
3. Given to her by a close friend(who was later discovered to be her father).
4. Given to her by one of the guards, whom she later marries.
Now, would Number 2 still be her 2nd name, or would Number 3 become her 2nd name?

(Referring to 1st name, 2nd name, and lore name(s))
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Grondmaster
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Posted Monday 25th July 2005 (10:51pm)
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Now, would Number 2 still be her 2nd name, or would Number 3 become her 2nd name?

(Referring to 1st name, 2nd name, and lore name(s))
Well, no self-respecting Elf in her right mind would want to be called "Number 2", and most of them don't care what they are called as long as it isn't "Late to Dinner". Sorry, I just couldn't resist the temptation. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
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Cloveress
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Posted Friday 5th August 2005 (11:57pm)
lol guys... though I never knew an Elf could get four names. Cool, eh? But Men and wizards seem to have a lot more names than them (check up Aragorn or Gandalf in the index/appendix), cooler, eh?
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Tyrhael
has made 1187 posts and is an Elf from Lothlorien and is not online.
Posted Saturday 6th August 2005 (10:11pm)
The only example I can think of is Galadriel: she was given the name Nerwen by her mother and Artanis by her father, and when she grew older and met Teleporno in Doriath he called her Alatįriel in Telerin Quenya. When Quenya was banned by Thingol, they Sindarinized their names to Galadriel and Celeborn. So I would say the name given to the Elf you mentioned by the guard would be used, and if there was an epessė (3), you could use that after the other name if you wished. The other names (amilessė (1) ar anessė (2)) would still be valid, but not used after another of that Elf's names but separately.
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Miruvor
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Posted Saturday 6th August 2005 (10:17pm)
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The only example I can think of is Galadriel: she was given the name Nerwen by her mother and Artanis by her father, and when she grew older and met Teleporno in Doriath he called her Alatįriel in Telerin Quenya.

Teleporno ??
Tsk tsk, this is a family friendly site ! Lighening Smilie
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Olorimė
has made 156 posts and is a Hobbit from Hobbiton and is not online.
Posted Sunday 7th August 2005 (04:55am)
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Well, no self-respecting Elf in her right mind would want to be called "Number 2", and most of them don't care what they are called as long as it isn't "Late to Dinner". Sorry, I just couldn't resist the temptation.

Yeah, Grendy, but they don't mind being called "Late to Second Breakfast". Wink Smilie

Yes, but this still doesn't answer my question, so here it is:

Okay, an Elf has 4 names(Version 2):
1. Laura: Given to her by her mother.
2. Lisa: Given to her by the Elf that raised her.
3. Alexia: Given to her by a close friend(who was later discovered to be her father).
4. Svenethina: Given to her by one of the guards, whom she later marries.
Now, would Lisa still be her 2nd name, or would Alexia become her 2nd name?

:P Ha, now I shall call you Grendy...though my favorite mistype will always be "Grindy".
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