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I pictured the guy who played Haldir as Eomer. I didn't like him as Haldir, though.
I found it interesting what Eomer says in the book about how Boromir is 'more like to the swift sons of Eorl', i.e., the Rhorrim. This I take to mean that Eomers people are more warriors and the people of Gondor more wise. Eomer contrasted with Faramir certainly seems to demonstrate this.
Have we forgotten Eomer?

*tom checks the character list*

OMG We have!!! Eeek! Wary Smilie

All right, what's to say about Eomer? Cool Smilie
I think towards the end it was more about Aragorn, Merry, Pippin, Eowyn that other characters were cast aside, even Legolas and Gimli. Eomer, Imrahil were all courageous people but supposedly still weren't as courageous as Aragorn because he went to the Paths of Dead and all. But then again so did Legolas and Gimli and the rangers and no one even gives them any credit.
I've always pictured him as Kenneth Brannaugh in Henry V. At least when Henry V (movie) came out anyway. But before that...just veddy, veddy English.



[Edited on 13/9/2002 by Ungoliant]
Like Faramir and Imrahil, Eomer is another of those supporting characters who you know you can totally depend on, and who'd you pick to have on your side when the going gets tough. Brave, honourable, courteous, dependable, heroic... Those five words can describe all three of them, but Eomer's maybe a little rougher around the edges than the other two.
But unlike those other two, Éomer has a more equinal aroma about him, not to mention that he isn't Dúnedain. However, I would rather have him beside me in a fight than the other two. Smile Smilie
Well, Eomer and Faramir will be related anyway... But Eomer does seem tougher than the other two, do you think he'll be content with being a King and staying in his castle (or wherever he is staying) rather than going out to fight?
I can't help but feel that Eomer got conned at the end. Okay, conned is too strong perhaps...shortchanged then.

Everyone else received land, titles, medals, songs written after them, women, promotions and hearty pats on the back, but poor Eomer & the Rohirrim? Aragorn even had the bloody cheeck to justify his stinginess towards Eomer:
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And last of all Aragorn greeted Eomer of Rohan, and they embraced, and Aragorn said: 'Between us there can be no word of giving and taking, nor of reward; for we are brethren. In happy hour did Eorl ride from the North, and never has any league of people been more blessed, so that neither has wither failed the other, nor shall fail...

How does Eomer reward his vassals & reimburse the families of the fallen Rohirrim then? Out of his own coffers? Phooey. Aragorn conveniently 'renewed' to Eomer the gift of Cirion, which was under Rohan anyway. Miser! Tongue Smilie
Hey, I think you're right! It's like people didn't even care about him even if he was the King of Rohan in the end - he's just one of those people who helped protect ME in the war and in the meantime helping Aragorn to be a King, but never really was thought to be important enough for praises or anything like that. Of course, he was too nice to ask for them...
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Besides, if he needed money, he could sell horses to Gondor at highly inflated prices because, he now had an "in" with the ruling powers.

Forgot about that. Hooray for dubious trade practices! Wink Smilie

Seriously though, Eomer was far too nice. I'm sure the expenses for the war with Saruman, let alone saving Gondor's butt, was enormous. It's going to take plenty of horses to cover that one.

I think it would have been nicer if Aragorn had offered something to him. Then Eomer could graciously refuse, using pretty much the same lines that Aragorn said in the paragraph above. That'll make Aragorn seem less niggardly.
Lest We Forget!

Were it not for the works of Merry, Pippin, Treebeard, and Gandalf, King Theoden, Éomer, Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas, and most of the Rohirrim would not have withstood the onslaught of Isengard. Éomer was thankful just to have a kingdom left to inherit. And now he could work on building a peaceful existence and trade with the Dunlendings toward securing his western borders.

Besides, if he needed money, he could sell horses to Gondor at highly inflated prices because, he now had an "in" with the ruling powers.

What more can a horseman ask, but for a blue sky, a sea of grass, a mighty steed of the line of the Mearas, four square meals a day, and someone to share his wealth and help provide him with progeny?
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do you think he'll be content with being a King and staying in his castle (or wherever he is staying) rather than going out to fight?
In actual fact he wasn't. He spent a good part of the rest of his life campaigning with Aragorn in various wars against the Haradrim and the Eastlerings.
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...and Eomer took again the Oath of Eorl. Often he fulfilled it. For though Sauron had passed, the hatreds and the evils that he bred had not died, and the Kings of the West had many enemies to subdue before the White Tree could grow in peace. And wherever King Elessar went with war King Eomer went with him; and beyond the Sea of Rhun and on the far fields of the South the thunder of the cavalry of the Mark was heard, and the White Horse upon Green flew in many winds until Eomer grew old.
I forgot that bit from the last page of Part II The House of Eorl, in Appendix A, to ROTK. So then, to help keep his men and horses in the field, Éomer received a share of the loot.
Yay! It keeps getting better all the time. Eomer's got gold pouring out of his ears now! Big Smile Smilie
Good for Eomer!

Now that you mention it, Golly, I think Kenneth Branagh might do very well for Eomer! I saw him in Hamlet and besides being a wonderful actor, he would fit the role nicely I guess... Cool Smilie
More info about Éomer from the same section of Appendix A as above: He married into old money before Gandalf and company set sail to the West. His wife, who probably brought a great dowry, was none other than Lothiriel, daughter of Imrahil. They had a son Elfwine the Fair who ruled after them.
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not to mention that he isn't Dúnedain
Just as a matter of interest, Eomer did have Dunedain blood. His mother, Theodwyn was daughter of King Thengel and Morwen of Lossarnach, a Dunedain woman from the line of the Lords of Dor-en-Ernil. These ties seemed to have been kept up, since his wife, Lothiriel, was also from this Line.
Kenneth Brannagh would suit Eomer's role quite nicely but it would be kinda weird since he will be in the new Harry Potter movie out in November. Not to mention that Christopher Lee already played the villain in Attack of The Clones.

Well, if Eomer had enough money then we shouldn't have to worry anymore! Smile Smilie
Hooray! That's right Naira, and he married into old money as well! Eomer's doing pretty well for himself, isn't he? He'll be richer than Bill Gates by the time we're through here! Big Smile Smilie

Kenneth Brannaugh would be perfect if he was 10 years younger. I didn't see Hamlet - was it good?

Is Dor-en-Ernil near Dol Amroth? It is a place, isn't it?
In the map it showed Dor-en-Ernil quite near to Dol Amroth.
Dor-en-Ernil, or Land of the Princes, is a Principality of Gondor better known as Belfalas. This is the land that Imrahil was Prince of. Dol Amroth is the chief city of this land.
Golly: Hamlet was pretty amazing yeah. I mean, it was the best version of the three I saw. And Branagh is a *really* good actor.
Actually, Eomer and Faramir have one thing in common - they both appear first as stern, commanding persons, full of distrust to strangers, and then they become nice and friendly. A a very archetypic situation - to meet a distrustful stranger who then turns to be our ally...
I personally felt that Aragorn treated Eomer very well. He told to Eomer that they are "brethern", while Faramir became only his steward...
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think that is because Aragorn has never actually talk to Faramir before he healed him. But he already became close to Eomer after he went to Rohan. And by saying that they are 'brethren' maybe because Aragorn and Eomer both became kings in the end.
They were also comrades in arms through three battles during the war and never fought beside Faramir until maybe in the battles against the barbarians after the war. While Faramir's duties as Steward may have kept him tied closer to Minas Tirith with the odd vacation in Ilithien, and thus precluded his joining the other two on the glory road, just maybe.
Well, Faramir was not a warlike person, he actually might have been well content to be a Steward and to be thus excused from joining the other two in their wars far away from Minas Tirith!
Sensible chap, that Faramir.

Would Eomer be ranked as Aragorn's equal, or was he simply a king-vassal? Is Rohan a separate soverign state, totally independant from Gondor? Or is Aragorn his king too?
No, no, yes, no...

Eomer was a king in his own right and Rohan was its own sovereign state, independant of Gondor. Ties and friendships went back a long way though, and these were regularly strengthened by ties of marriage. I think Eomer would be high in Aragorn's council, both as a king and a friend, but he would never be seen as an equal to Aragorn. I always imagine him being seated at Aragorn's right.
On a scale of importance, I'd imagine he was somewhere between Aragorn and Prince Imrahil.
He became King of Rohan, right? I'd say he was about as important as Aragorn (though not quite now that I think of it) and way over Imrahil. But I agree with you Val. Cool Smilie
I think the guy who played Eomer is better-looking than the one who played Haldir. Smile Smilie And in FOTR they kinda potrayed Haldir like an arrogant jerk, Big Laugh Smilie so I hope they won't do that to Eomer.
So do I, I really liked Haldir in the book, though. You know, in the book I thought Eomer was an arrogant jerk in the beginning.
In the book all nice men were somewhat arrogant at the beginning - not only Eomer, but also Aragorn and Faramir!

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LOL! You are very right about that. I suppose it's what makes them interesting.

[Edited on 5/11/2002 by Samwisegamgee]
Arrogant? Surely not Aragorn. Eomer, and maybe Faramir too. Hmmm yes maybe Aragorn as well. Tongue Smilie Suppose it's because they are supposed to be these high leading postAuthorIDities, and when you first meet them, they come across like high leading postAuthorIDities, but when you get to know them better, they are softies really. If you know what I mean... Big Laugh Smilie
I am of exactly the same opinion, Tommy, and I think that you put it very well!
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Big Smile Smilie Celebrian posted on 3/10/2002 at 13:36
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Am I the only one who thinks that Eomer looks kinda handsome?
In the movie I mean? Looks better with blond then dark hair Tongue Smilie

Was just a suggestion..I think he looks kinda of yummy Wink Smilie
Tongue Smilie Amarië posted on 3/10/2002 at 14:20
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I agree! I thought I could not be more eager to see two towers then i already was, but then there was this trailer and then I saw Eomer! Tongue Smilie Competiton for Legolas at last Wink Smilie
Grondmaster posted on 4/10/2002 at 01:17
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We have another thread called Eomer where we are posting about the character in the book and movie; thus I really ought to move you ladies' comments there; however, for the moment I won't, maybe tomorrow. Smile Smilie

Celebrian posted on 4/10/2002 at 10:24
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Ups! Sorry Grondmaster...I checked the thread out, but no one said anything nice `bout Eomer...just who they thougt would fit the role? Anyway...I`m sorry! .....But he`s still good looking Big Smile Smilie
TomBombadillo posted on 5/10/2002 at 17:18
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Where did you girls see him? Is he on that new trailer? Cos I can't watch that one. Would explain... Big Smile Smilie
Amarië posted on 7/10/2002 at 15:26
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Yes it was in the trailer. Yummy close up too! Sorry you can't see it. Very Sad Smilie Evil computer?
i'm quite new in this eomer forum. welll , to tell u the truth, i like eomer better than other characters in the movie ( exp for aragorn, he's my first choice ) i'm saying bout the movie. if i wanted to judge by the book (LOTR) then uh , uh ive to read it all over again...

to be the king of Rohan ( after the death of theoden) he suites the throne anyway. if theres a war to be fight, he'll probably go, there hadnt be any mighty king who sit sleepily during war doing nothing to protect whoever they must
Hey Eomer is a great character, but anyway I preffer Eowyn Big Smile Smilie And how she looked on de movie... Tongue Smilie
Hey Valar! Wink Smilie I agree with you, I like Eomer in the book, and in the movie also, but I was a teeny bit upset that he had a very short screentime because all the focus were on his sister. Although in the end he and the Rohirrim (and Gandalf) came to the rescue so that made it okay.