Thread: Huan, the Hound of Valinor
It was said that Huan would only be slain by the mightiest wolf ever seen in Arda. In a bid to be the one to kill Huan, Sauron had transformed himself into a werewolf, reasoning that he would be the greatest wolf of all time. In this he was greatly mistaken, and his fight with Huan almost killed him.
While aiding Luthien and Beren in their quest to take a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown, he also slew the other werewolves of Sauron including their sire, Draugluin.
Morgoth, however, had bred another wolf, from the line of Draugluin with the specific intention of slaying Huan. This great beast, Carcharoth, also known as Anfauglir, was set to guard the doors of Angband. Luthien managed to place a spell upon Carcharoth as they entered Angband, but he barred their exit as they attempted to depart. As they made their escape past him, he bit off Beren's hand in which he was holding the Silmaril.
The heat from the Silmaril burned the wolf terribly and he ran amok through Taur-nu-Fuin and Doriath in madness killing everything he came across. A party was sent out to kill the wolf, including Beren, Huan and Mablung. When they cornered Carcharoth, the wolf managed to kill Beren before Huan was able to kill it. Although Huan slew this beast, as his fate had been fortold, he was slain himself too.
As far as I know, Huan's story ended there. I'm not sure whether anything else as been written about him in the HOME books.
BTW, in one HOME book it states that Tolkien's original manuscript stated that Huan will come back to life with Beren and accompany him to Luthien. . . But that idea didn't make it to the Silmarillion, sorry.
[Edited on 29/12/2002 by Samwisegamgee]

don't forget he could spoke three times too. (my dogs can't do that i think)
There are times I wish my animals could talk to me. It really be a tremendous help when they don't feel well, or are hurt.
Mellie
Sorry, I did not mean to interrupt the conversation. Just keep talking and ignore me.
So Huan was what? A maia who took the form of a hound?
Thats what I've always thought too, plus he was granted the gift of speech on a few occasions. Val?
[Edited on 13/9/2003 by Elfstone]
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So Huan was what? A maia who took the form of a hound?
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Thats what I've always thought too, plus he was granted the gift of speech on a few occasions. Val?
I'll try to find the copy of the letter.
(Grondy merely fixed errant ASCII number.)
[Edited on 14/9/2003 by Grondmaster]
If whoever sent in the relevent letter about Huan is reading this, could you repost it here too please. Many Thanks.

as Valinor had never been corrupted by Morgoth's Ring, the beasts from there aged in a similar manner to the elves (ie. very slowly), and were naturally strong and "special".
"Here Honey, I brought you something!!
"Oh it's a maia!! Can I keep him dad, can I??"
"Of course you can sweetie, he's name is Gandalf and he's got a magic stick so don't tease him ok?"
"Ok daddy, i won't!"
also he will be killed by the mightiest wolf that ever walks the earth wen he and luthien are tryin to save beren from sauron sauron turns into a mighty wolf (after tryinoher things ) but gets beat by huan :O
'Huan and Sorontar could be Maiar -- emissaries of Manwe. But unfortunately in The Lord of the Rings Gwaehir and Landroval are said to be descendants of Sorontar.'
But JRRT ends this same text with a statement that included Huan as not being a Maia in any case. And on Text V, Tolkien jotted:
'Living things in Aman. As the Valar would robe themselves like the Children, many of the Maiar robed themselves like other lesser living things, as trees, flowers, beasts. (Huan.)'
And in another, wholly different note, Tolkien seems to feel that Huan could be one of the Maiar.
It appears he was still working out certain matters

It is true,but Manwe said that shepards of he trees will be walking in the forests,so I do not think he ment Maiar by that
'Manwe however sent Maia spirits in Eagle form to dwell near Thangorodrim...' Note to the typescript, Annals of Aman
'... many of the Maiar robed themselves like other lesser living things, as trees, flowers, beasts. (Huan.)' Note on the page for Myths Transformed, text V
'Huan and Sorontar could be Maiar -- emissaries of Manwe. But unfortunately in The Lord of the Rings Gwaehir and Landroval are said to be descendants of Sorontar.' Myths Transformed text VIII
These appear to hail from the late 1950s -- and then we have the description as found in Of The Ents And The Eagles as well -- again late 1950s, but may well be later according to Christopher Tolkien.
Of course, the first quote is notable concerning the eagles (since they were brought up), but I don't know if it's possible to know much more about the dating here.
I thought Huan was just what he was, born in the undying lands and left in loyalty when Feanor went in chase of Morgorth to recover the jewels or whatever. I think it was marvellous he could understand every single language that existed, though he only spoke the three times. And to think he so wounded that creep that he fled with a great owy on his throat. Go Huan, my hero!
I prefer Huan not to be an 'elevated beast' without a fea (essentially without a spirit), as Tolkien considered in one Myths Transformed text -- the same text in which he generally concluded that Orcs were beasts corrupted to look more human (to mock the children of God). But in a letter of 1954 Tolkien had noted:
'... when you make Trolls speak you are giving them a power, which in our world (probably) connotes the possession of a 'soul'.'
Of course if that's true JRRT would have to look at other speaking beasts already within the tales of Middle-earth. The bit about the orcs being beasts (not that this was Tolkien's final decision in any case) doesn't ring that true to me when I look at orc-conversation in The Lord of the Rings.
Anyway, I'm not positive, but if I recall correctly Tolkien didn't mention Huan in any book that he himself published, but 'Hound of Valinor' would be good enough for me anyway, as far as any story is concerned at least.
The Sil states that there are many creatures and plants in Valinor which have and never will appear in Middle Earth. I always thought that the eagles of Manwe, Maeras and Huan as well as many another beings were some of these creatures. However Dragons, Im sure, are mentioned to be Maia in Reptilian form...
Reading all of your great posts, the realization popped into my head that whether Maia, Valar or Elf, your never really dead, just your body is. I guess you just wake up in the Halls of Mandos if your an Elf or your spirit flies West after the destruction of your body in the case of the Maia.
I love the section in the scouring of the Shire where Saruman's spirit rises from his body like grey smoke looks West and is driven away east by a wind. Total disapproval from the West? Perhaps. If Huan was a Maia, he would simply have gone back to Valinor in one form or another and lived forever in peace. If he was an another form of mortal being, imortal in Valinor?? Too confusing, I dont think that JRRT wanted us to know as it creates so much fun trying to find out!
I have no problem with Huan being a maiar and all that, after all Tolkien being devoutly Catholic and in great knowledge of the Bible would have read that the angels , being most powerful beings, clothed themselves in the form or men when dealing with subjects on earth that would need to see them in person.
HOWEVER, I can not agree that one would have another for a PET. That is gross and to me against the 'holiness' of Illuvatar and implies one would dominate the other, or in otherwards one would be slave if you will to the inclinations of the other. No, |I cannot believe Tolkien for one minute would do this. It is gross and very Sauron like.


