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Brad Pitt, Rosie??? I'm glad they didn't. Not that he isn't great looking but it's so much better sometimes to use not so well known actors portray characters. Even though it might not help them with their future careers eg. Mark Hamil. Not that I think Orlando will have any prob but
I think if I saw Brad Pitt in it I would immedialty think of Jennifer Aniston Or legends of the fall ext and that wouldn't be good when trying to live a fantasy.
Legolas reminds me of Allen Shezar in the manga Escaflowne.
OK, Thranduil etc I knew that - but all things considered I would have loved to have seen an Elf from The Grey Havens; I mean the Hobbit we already talked about Mirkwood etc, we've meet Rivendell people and Galadrile at Lothlorien etc, so the only "missing" element are Cidran's people. And sconsiddering the symbolic imortance ofthat lot? I would loved to had more info about who they are.
Maybe Tolkien was trying to make it upto Thranduil considering how "badly" he portryed the ELves in Hobbit.
And lets leave Brad Pitt out of this one!
Okay, back to the REAL topic...
Legolas, Elf Prince and a fine Elf. I can't get enough of him in the books. (I have justed finished reading the Fellowship pf the Ring...again...before I'll be catching the movie this evening) I love it in the book when he and Gimli argues about being blind-folded. And later, he he offers to take Gimli on the same horse. And he calls him his friend. I think that was very cute. Okay, I am hooked...no need to say that.
Oh, btw..this is my first post here. And it will not be the last. So take care, my friends, until I return.
Legolas reminds me of Allen Shezar in the manga Escaflowne.
a little bit, only i like Legolas a little better. Allen is a bit too much of a player, but he's still cool.
welcome to the forums Menecairiel! ^_^
How old is he?
Orlando has said he (Legolas) is some 2900+ years old, and he must have gotten that from somewhere, but Tolkien never actually says. So I'm curious, all you expert types, what feeling do you get? Old or young (for an elf, of course)?
He constantly refers to the rest of the Fellowship as children (and how annoying must that have been for Gimli?), and when he says that the Rohirrim came out of the north 500 years ago, he seems to be implying that he was around for those 500 years and this is something he remembers. And he makes poetic observations like the fact that he has watched acorns grow up, grow old and die. The terrifically ancient Fangorn makes him feel like a child again, even though Mirkwood is an old forest itself and he doesn't seem to have any similar feelings towards it.
And yet, he doesn't seem to have traveled much, if he's old. He's never been to Lorien, he's never been to Fangorn (and doesn't know much about it). It seems that elves are travelling less as their era ends, and though he seems familiar with Elrond's home, Mirkwood and Rivendell aren't very far apart. But he does know the Lay of Nimrodel, so he's been somewhere to learn it or it's been brought to Mirkwood, so it isn't like no one travels.
And he acts fairly young sometimes. I can't picture Elrond or Thranduil or the other older elves we know doing the head-count with Gimli at Helm's Deep (one of my favorite scenes). He has a quick temper. Elves seem to be a bit tempermental anyway, but not many of the ones we meet are given to the flashes that Legolas shows (like when Gimli is stubborn about being blindfolded). He completely freaks out when they first see the Balrog. He's flexible enough in his opinions to make friends with a dwarf. He's fascinated with the Ents and eager to see Aglarond with Gimli.
I just can't get a fix on him! The best I can come up with is that he's youngish. Maybe a younger son, probably not the heir (since he seems to be Thranduil's messenger to Elrond, and he's a member of the Fellowship. So "a" prince of Mirkwood rather than "the" Prince of Mirkwood.) He's old enough to be an experienced fighter against Orcs and he has no fear of Men (I'm thinking of the first meeting with Eomer), but he's young enough not to be jaded, like Elrond seems sometimes and like his father (not a favorite of mine) seems most of the time.
What are some other opinions? You guys are the experts after all!
Some say he is 9000 years old, which I believe to be an overstatement.
Thanks for the warm welcome, my friends.
Hi there Menecairiel, welcome to our world.
I figure Legolas was young enough (by elf standards) to not be jaded and to still love his surroundings. At the beginning of the Fourth Age he, with the Greeewood elves that moved there with him, turned Ithilien once again into the fairest country in all the westlands. This was while Gimli was busy playing stonemason in Minas Tirith and artisan in the The Caverns of Helm's Deep.
Like meny young people, he would of course not be tired of his surroundings. And I think 2000 years is enough time developing that incredible skill with the bow. I think that i need 2000 years extra to learn that....
In the movie, you could see that Legolas started as an idealistic young Elf. He knew of course the downsides in history but he was still one fo the first to volunteer, most likely to seek adventure.
However, after the "death" of Gandalf, this changed. You could see it in his eyes as Aragorn ordered/requested him to get the Hobbits up. He hesistated. He was confused. He looked shocked and scared to the bone.
Like most warriors, however, he put that aside and did what he could to fight and survive. The way he watched as Boromir died in Aragorn arms was touching, because it shows just how little Elves know about death. He watched, facinated and yet repulsed. Great acting from Orlando's part. He really showed Legolas as I pictured him in the books.
Legolas's age..He may well be over 3000 but I don't think so. Consider his high regard for the Sons of Elrond. He speaks of them as if they are older I think, but they are roughly 2900 years old. (divide by 144 for elf years - 20).
I make Legolas at perhaps 18? = 2592 just a bit younger. Kind of childish at times (like when he was being irritatingly flippant when they came upon the trail of the hobbits) and adult at others (when he talks about the oak trees).
He did seem to mature as the book progressed. I think that is partly why he and Gimli ended up friends, though no doubt they still got on each others nerves at times!
Nice seeing you again, Allyssa.
I always thought he was showing off when he legged it over the top of the snow though.
Norway...err...picture that scene where the Fellowship walk over the snowy mountain. That should give you an insight on the nature of Norway. Add a city with grumpy people and you have Oslo. Take Hobbiton, cover it in snow and let the people grow and you have my hometown. In my hometown, we like to throw people in the snow and put snow down their necks. We like to throw snowballs at them and later go inside and sip some hot chocolade. We also hate winter, or at least I do. I am an Autumn person and a Summer person. I do not like snow, for it is too cold for my skin.
If Legolas could save the Fellowship, he could have come here and saved me! I need it!
(Hi Menecairiel! Never been to Norway but it's next on the list, since I loved Iceland so much.)
As a side not legolas was the only one not to be coruppted by the ring also. him and maybe gimli. i might be wrong here but im pretty sure.
not exactly the word i would've used... more like 'manly' and 'athletic' and scrumptious...
forgive me, what were we talking about?[Edited on 6/2/2002 by Rosie]
Legolas was a good character, but sweet? Naah. He was just the elf of the company, and the one who comes to help when you need it, just like Gandalf. I liked Gimli much more though. Always loved the funny parts...
Legolas and Boromir are my favourite characters. Can't help it...
Menecairiel -It's late, she's tried...nighty!
what do you mean nuts?!
Orlando is refreshingly loony. I think Jehanne's description of his taste in fashion should give you an idea - polka-dots & stripes, and a colour coordination worse than Bombadil's! Maybe he just doesn't care though, so good for him!
He is just...nuts on interviews. I just heart this great one of www.orlandobloom.co.nz where he and Ian McKellan are on a radio interview. Orlando giggles, laughs, jokes and makes comments that would make my Englishteacher blush over his accent.
Okay, so I might have been a bit affected by him but I am *not* swooning! I hate that blasted word...
And Dave is getting old, indeed. Still, he is cool
kinda glad school started cos it takes mind off trivial things like my obsession with orlando.. there are more important things than a crush on some movie star.
I've seen an interview with Liv Tyler and Bloom on telly few days ago. Must say Bloom did look pretty nuts. He had his hair (dark blond with light blond things in it, as I recall it) rather short and peaking everywhere, he had a black shirt on with white big dots on it, and some kinda Grease-looking trousers. My guess is he is nuts...
I thought (previously) that people who got so involved with LoTR were a bit loony...
Welcome to the Forum Clarja, good points, he did seem a bit of a fraidy-cat there didn't he?
the people who get involved in LOTR ARE definitely loony, just look at Plastic here!
Dreadful among these spirits were the Valaraukar, the scourges of fire that in Middle-earth were called the Balrogs, demons of terror... their hearts were of fire, but they were cloaked in darkness, and terror went before them; they had whips of flame.
O! Will you be staying,
Or will you be flying?
Your ponies are straying!
The daylight is dying!
To fly would be folly,
To stay would be jolly
And listen and hark
Till the end of the dark
to our tune
Compare that to 'The Song of Nimrodel' found in FOTR, Book II, Chapter 6 entitled 'Lothlórien' or the sad song that Galadriel sang in FOTR, Book II, Chapter 8 entitled 'Farewell to Lórien', which ends with
O Lórien! Too long I have dwelt upon this Hither Shore
And in a fading crown have twined the golden elanor.
But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?
"Elves here, and Elves there! Some like kings, terrible and splendid; and some as merry as children."
There seems to be a lot of variation of character among the elves. Perhaps Bilbo only mainly encountered the silly ones and not too many of the "lordly" ones. Gosh, elves are complicated folk!
Welcome to the forum, clarja. Another loony greets you!
All together now, repeat after me: "The feather goes in the hat; the banana goes in the ear. The feather goes in the hat; the banana goes in the ear."
Warning: If you must put a banana in your ear, make sure you peel it first.
[Edited on 8/4/2002 by Grondmaster]