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Aragorn was NOT handsome, and Viggo Mortensen is!!! They should have chosen a less handsome actor with a strong personality which could make us love him in spite of his ungainly looks...
A good tip on pronounsing Viggo Mortensen; think quenya! Quenya a, e, i, o, u, y = norwegian/danish/sweedish/finnish! I'm norwegian, Viggo is half dane Smile Smilie

Viggo is GREAT as Aragorn, but unfortunatly he gets a look in his eyes (like after Boromir dies and there is a close up of Aragorn, I saw it in the trailer too!) where he is the spitting image of a totally patetic door-mat of a guy caracter in a tv-show we have here, ("senkveld med HC & Tommy" if any norwegians read this) and I laugh everytime I see it! It's just as annoying to see as it is fun! Ha Ha Ha Smilie

I don't think Viggo Mortensonen(sp?) is half as good an actor as Sean Bean.
I bet no one here disagrees with comment, Samwisegamgee..... Not.

I've always liked Sean Bean's films (I loved the Sharpe series), but for me it seemed that Sean Bean was part of the Fellowship, rather than Boromir being part of the Fellowship. I don't dislike how he portrayed Boromir, it's just that, unlike everyone else in the movie except Liv (bless her), he did not bring his character to life... It may just be that he was too famous and recognisable, whereas most of the others I'd never really heard of, or were heavily made up with make-up.

I thought Viggo was excellant as Aragorn.
I spent the second half of the movie trying to figure out where I previously had seen the Bean. It was his voice the set me off on that hunt until I finally saw a good shot of his jaw, and then I knew it was Sharpe. (Think I've seen all the many mini-series and know I've read all the books.)

In the movie, Bean didn't appear to start acting until his final battle and death, while I thought Viggo was being Aragorn from the beginning, despite his filty hair.
Sean Bean will always be Alec Trevelyan/Janus from Goldeneye for me, and he sucked as a bond villain almost as bad as he sucked as Boromir.
I have to agree that Viggo played Strider/Aragorn brilliantly.His heart seemed to really into the role, Bean, on the other hand, didn't come across convincingly until his death scene. Fine time to put heart into your character! Wink Smilie The scene with Frodo in the wood of Amon Hen was very weak, almost corny. Not at all how I envisioned the way Tolkien wrote it.
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Who else agrees with me that he was the strongest mortal in the 3rd age.
Hi inderjitsanghera, welcome to the site.
I agree with your comment about Aragorn being the strongest mortal of the third age, and so too did Tolkien, himself. In Appendix A of RotK he wrote,
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Thus he became at last the most hardy of living Men, skilled in their crafts and lore, and yet was more than they; for he was elven-wise, and there was a light in his eyes that when they were kindled few could endure.
Welcome to our forum Inderjitsanghera. Smile Smilie

Aragorn was the best of the men living in his age of Middle-earth of which we have any knowledge. If there was someone better, Professor Tolkien chose not to bring him to light so as not to diminish that radiating from Aragorn. Cool Elf Smilie
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Since Legolas has a thread to himself, surely Aragorn deserves the same.

I think Viggo Mortensen is the hottest babe on earth. Anyone with me?


I AM SO WITH YOU< VIGGO IS SOOOO HOT, I THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE TOUCH HIM THEY GET BURNED............ HEHEHEHE
Moderator Smilie This is the Aragorn thread.

Please take your Viggo drools to Beautiful Men - The Drool Thread in The Prancing Pony Tavern.

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Aragorn is what could be called the perfect warrior-hero. Intelligent, cautious, humble, fierce and of course handsome. Parallel him with Beowulf, King Arthur?

In the movies he has quite a lot from King Arthur I think (compare him with King Arthur in John Borman's Excalibur and you know what I mean).

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Aragorn is like the kind of guy that we all wannabe. (At least for me) He is like this ultra-super guy that is how to call it...both skilled in body and mind. And I like the way his heritage was revealed and how he endured in his journeys to become a man worthy of Arwen's love.
Way back in April 2002 Grondy said:

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...a strange looking weather-beaten man, ... His legs were stretched out before him, showing high top boots of supple leather that fitted him well, but had seen much wear and were now caked with mud. A travel-stained cloak of heavy dark-green cloth was drawn close about him, and in spite of the heat of the room he wore a hood that overshadowed his face; but the gleam of his eyes could be seen. ... Goes about at a great pace on his long shanks ... he threw back his hood, showing a shaggy head of dark hair flecked with grey, and in a pale stern face a pair of keen grey eyes.
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Some one who looks foul, yet seems fair in other words?


Grondy, you are right on target with your words but I don't know if you can completely understand a woman's attraction to good boys in bad boy bodies. Lord have mercy. I don't know why I have been blindsided so long with Legolas when there is exactly my type right beside him on the screen. Seein's how all the droolers have taken such distinct sides on this issue, I would have to say, sorry, Orlando lovers, I think I may be in the process of converting right before your eyes.

Anyway. Aragorn. His character. I guess my questions have to do with his childhood because I'm confused about how he ended up in Rivendell, why there, and why elves, and who took care of him after his parents died, and why that person in particular. All this probably has a consistent answer? If there is text somewhere, you can point me to it and I will be on the lookout when I get to reading that book. Otherwise, I would appreciate the condensed version of anyone who knows. Another question I have about Aragorn is about his relationship with Arwen...in short, was it merely a romance or did their union accomplish something more significant between their worlds or Middle Earth...and if it was a significant union of some sort, do you think they fell in love because they knew they had to be together or if they would have done that anyway, or if it all happened more concurrently.
Aragorn II Elessar was a great and noble man....He was definately king material....If the people of Gondor would have not accepted him then they would all be foolish twits.....it would be folly to decline him the throne of Gondor... Smoke Smilie
The answer to your question, Mim, can be pretty much answered in Appendix A of RotK, Tale of Aragorn and Arwen.

After the fall of Arthedain and the death of King Argeleb II, Elrond acted as guardian to the surviving Prince. Because it had been the ambition of Angmar to break this line, after the death of Argeleb the line was kept hidden through successive generations. Rather than taking the title of king, each successive ruler took the title of Chieftain of the Rangers of the North (the Rangers being the surviving Dunedain).

Aragorn's father was killed while hunting orcs when Aragorn was only a year old. His mother then moved to Rivendell where Aragorn was raised as Estel.

To answer your other question, Aragorn and Arwen first met in Lorien and pretty much fell in love right away, though their relationship did not blossom until later. Their relationship was very important for the fate of Men, because for the second time in history (the first being Elros), Maian blood was able to mix with that of the king of Men.

Elves were leaving Middle Earth for good at this time, so it was important that the new line of kings of Gondor should be strong and have this noble blood. It is not so much the elven blood that is important here, but the Maian blood from Melian. If you wish to know more on this subject, I suggest you read the section on Peredhil from Rednell's Bilbo's Study section.
thank you Val! I will read up on it...
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And I like the way his heritage was revealed and how he endured in his journeys to become a man worthy of Arwen's love.

That's true, but in TTT (a bit of rant here) it seemed like he gave up on their love when he let Arwen go to the Undying Lands. If the reason he wants to be king is influenced greatly by his love to Arwen, then what's the point in fighting the dark forces, defeating Sauron if at the end he becomes a king with no queen? For people who hasn't read the book but watched TTT, they might think that Arwen has left and Aragorn is in the battles because of his own choice to save M-E and becomes king in the end no matter what. And Eowyn will become his queen. (yeah right) Rolling Eyes Smilie Which is why I like Aragorn book better than Aragorn movie.
I think that tolkien couldn't have picked a better person to be Aragorn if he tried. I definitely think Viggo is sexy!!!!!!!!!
Thank u ppl! I really appreciate ur comments and feelings towards me! And yes I know I am "sexy", U needn't tell me that! Anyway I felt really nice after reading ur posts Wink Smilie

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Since Legolas has a thread to himself, surely Aragorn deserves the same.


Surely Allyssa u speak the truth.

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Aragorn was pretty cool. my mom really seems to like him...he's pretty hot.


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Heh, looks like i am the only who noticed that movie-aragorn (better known as Barfagorn) looks almost exactly like Snake Plissken.
What Vir? He looks fine to me,very rugged look,a mans man.He's not too charming lookin' though in his other movies,though. Big Smile Smilie
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better known as Barfagorn
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looks almost exactly like Snake Plissken.


OMG! Now that you mention it, he does! He really does! First pick for the lead in Metal Gear: The Movie.

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If the reason he wants to be king is influenced greatly by his love to Arwen, then what's the point in fighting the dark forces, defeating Sauron if at the end he becomes a king with no queen?


Saving the free peoples of ME from enslavement, perhaps? I don't recall whether or not there was a scene in the appendices where Aragorn voices his doubts to Arwen about their relationship (I don't think so) but surely he was torn between having Arwen as his wife (and queen) or having her sail to the undying lands with her people and retain her immortality. This is what makes it such a powerful love story and, I'm guessing, the reason why PJ felt the need to elaborate on it so much in the films.

I'm certain that the profundity of it wasn't lost on Tolkien either. Many people complain that PJ brought the story of Aragorn and Arwen to the forefront when it was such a relatively minor part of the books. Well, no it wasn't... not really. It depends on the reader. I'm sure more than a few out there found it to be quite important despite the meager "page time" it was given.
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Heh, looks like i am the only who noticed that movie-aragorn (better known as Barfagorn) looks almost exactly like Snake Plissken.
I did a search to find out who that Snake Plissken was, and OMG, it's Movie-Aragrons identical twin!! I never expected them too look that much alike! Big Laugh Smilie
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I did a search to find out who that Snake Plissken was, and OMG, it's Movie-Aragrons identical twin!! I never expected them too look that much alike!


Thx for agreeing. (although i knew i was right Wink Smilie ).

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OMG! Now that you mention it, he does! He really does! First pick for the lead in Metal Gear: The Movie.


Heh, i know that Snake is a character in that lame computergame, but i was talking about the guy of the movie Escape from LA, played by Kurt Russell.
Or maybe you agreed with me, no clue.

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Saving the free peoples of ME from enslavement, perhaps? I don't recall whether or not there was a scene in the appendices where Aragorn voices his doubts to Arwen about their relationship (I don't think so) but surely he was torn between having Arwen as his wife (and queen) or having her sail to the undying lands with her people and retain her immortality. This is what makes it such a powerful love story and, I'm guessing, the reason why PJ felt the need to elaborate on it so much in the films.


This is not true, in the books, Aragorn and Arwen were already betrothed 38 years when the war of the ring began. Sure, Aragorn may have had doubts before he and she got engaged at the hill of Cerin Amroth (aawww), but i think in the 24 years Aragorn spent after he met his future wife, and he and his future wife climbing Cerin Amroth, Aragorn didn't ponder the question whether 'Arwen should stay or not', after all Arwen still had to choose him.

Aragorn knew that after his death, Arwen could still go to the Grey Heavens. He also gave her this choice at his dying bed (ooowww), but again the choice was up to her.

So anyway, Aragorn never doubted their relationship : he knew he loved her and that he wanted her more than anything else, the same way Beren wanted Luthien. Fate it was. Fate.

So, Aragorn whining in the movies that Arwen 'cannot give him this' is total rubbish : he loved her and he wanted her, and still he declined her. I don't consider this to be 'a powerful relationship', just PJ's horrible vision of another book he read.

And saving the free peoples of Middle-Earth from extinction, was something Aragorn didn't do alone by himself. Superman did it alone.


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Heh, i know that Snake is a character in that lame computergame, but i was talking about the guy of the movie Escape from LA, played by Kurt Russell.


DohThere I go, getting my Snakes confused. Hey, why not, they all look the same anyway.

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And saving the free peoples of Middle-Earth from extinction, was something Aragorn didn't do alone by himself.


Did I say he did? Read again.

I was not attempting to reconcile the account in the book with that of the movie. I used the word "elaborate" when perhaps "embellish" was closer to what I meant. Certainly these scenes never took place in either the story itself or in the appendix. But Aragorn seemed to me to be a man filled with self-doubt. He doubted his strength of will, he doubted his worthiness to lead. I'm sure at some point, he doubted what was best for Arwen. Not his love for her but whether the price she would pay to become his queen was too high. He even doubted whether or not he would become king... and only by becoming king could he marry Arwen.
I do not perceive Tolkien Aragorn as a man filled with doubt. He is, as nicely put by Val in some other post, "a king in waiting". He is not hasty, which could prove disastrous. But he is waiting with so much patience and perseverance only to make his final strike more sure and deadly.
PJ movie Aragorn is indeed filled with doubt, a sort of Hamlet almost. A much weaker and less mature man, henpecked by Arwen!
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But Aragorn seemed to me to be a man filled with self-doubt. He doubted his strength of will, he doubted his worthiness to lead. I'm sure at some point, he doubted what was best for Arwen. Not his love for her but whether the price she would pay to become his queen was too high. He even doubted whether or not he would become king... and only by becoming king could he marry Arwen.




I am not sure whether you are talking bout movie Aragorn or book Aragorn. Anyway, i totally agree with Eryan on book Aragorn : he is no doubter or Hamlet. And again about Arwen : in the movies the whole romance is confusing soppy hollywood stuff, but in the books there was never doubt at all, Aragorn knew that if she was to marry him she had to give up her immortality but this was Arwen's choice. I think he only doubted whether or not he was worthy of her.

So that's why he made all those travels and that's why he served Thengel and Ecthelion II etc, because he wanted to prove for himself that he was worthy of her. And i don't think Aragorn doubted if he would become a king, otherwise he wouldn't have accepted the palantir and looked into the palantir, taken the paths of the dead, etc etc.

If he doubted himself, he would have just stayed behind with his Rangers in Eriador and not even tried to become a King. His entire life he has been preparing to become a King, fighting and investigating the powers of Mordor.

So for you Aragorn is a guy who doubts himself, but to me Aragorn is a guy with an iron will, steadfast and who knows what he wants. After all, he has Numenoran blood.
I agree totally with you Virumor! I would also like to point out yet one trait of the movie Aragorn which has nothing to do with the book. PJ Aragorn apparently has guilty feelings about being a heir of Isildur and is brooding over it. This is pretty egocentric. Tolkien Aragorn is never egocentric, which is the surest sign of the real strength and greatness!
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PJ Aragorn apparently has guilty feelings about being a heir of Isildur and is brooding over it. This is pretty egocentric. Tolkien Aragorn is never egocentric, which is the surest sign of the real strength and greatness!


Yes, it's even worse : in the movies Isildur is shown as a foolish, egocentric weak man who failed for the power of the Ring after he accidentally killed Sauron. Where's the Numenoran blood?
In the book, Isildur cut off Sauron's Ring finger and only took the Ring as a token of some sort for his father and brother who died in that battle. In the book, Isildur also saved a branch of Nimloth for later kings.

So, in the movies Aragorn is brooding about the fact that he is as weak as Isildur, because 'the same blood, the same weakness is in his veins'. This is horrible.

And after reading Prog's posts, it seems to me that the movies are confusing a lot of ppl who have read the books after seeing the movies. Not surprising, since the movie characters are completely different from the characters in the books.
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the movie characters are completely different from the characters in the books.


Yes, when I thought about it right now, yes, this is absolutely true! Some parts of landscape created in the film are pretty alike to what I imagined when reading the book (bits of Rivendell, Moria, Ithilien). But the psychological portraits of the heroes are all at variance to what can be found in the book. I defy everybody to name a single hero who has the same psychological potrait in the book and in the movie! I thought hard but I failed to find a single case!
Okay, it has been some time since I last read the book (cover to cover, it's been 3 years maybe) and I've watched the movies more than a few times, something I'm sure you're not guilty of, Virumor. It's funny how my perception of characters changed so easily and honestly unnoticed. I suppose If I want to keep professing my self to be a Tolkien fan first, then it's high time I read the books again. I really haven't had the time to do that for quite a long while. My apologies for attempting to speak about something that I apparently have no business speaking about.
I think you guys have finally reached the nub of the problem: PJ's characters have modern psychoses, while Tolkien's are more level headed.

Tolkien's Aragorn only worried about the Fellowship falling apart while he was leader, and once it, did he made a decision, and stuck with it and put it out of his mind. Sure he sweat blood over taking the Path of the Dead until he decided to do so, but I don't think he ever had any second thoughts, which PJ's weak Aragorn might be expected to. PJ's Aragorn doesn't act his true age; those years with Thengel, Ecthelion II, and as a ranger in the north should have made him more mature and filled with confidence.

Eryan: If Sam could be considered a hero, maybe PJ's rendition of him is fairly close to that of Tolkien's; however, PJ still has another movie to mess around with Sam's head too.

Prog: Your apologies are accepted; however, they aren't really necessary because you also have helped to get this discussion moving again in a more positive way. You might try reading 10 pages at lunch or bedtime, if you can limit it to that. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
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PJ's characters have modern psychoses, while Tolkien's are more level headed

Vey well said Grondy! It's you who had finally reached the nub of the problem!
As for Sam, I thought about him and, yes, he is not far from Tolkien's vision of him. But, as in the movie Frodo is roughly of the same age as Sam, his relationship with Frodo is different than in the book.
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Aragorn is what could be called the perfect warrior-hero. Intelligent, cautious, humble, fierce and of course handsome. Parallel him with Beowulf, King Arthur?

In the movies he has quite a lot from King Arthur I think (compare him with King Arthur in John Borman's Excalibur and you know what I mean).

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Aragorn is certainly unique. Elrond indicates that he is almost Elendil ( not Isildur reborn. Frodo sees him in a vision, the last of his line with the white gem upon his forehead. However, he is definitely not handsome. Tolkien speaks of his "strange, eager face" and no way does that denote an "elven fairness". He is tall and more lithe than Boromir, something that is described when the Company attempts to escape from Caradhras (Boromir is described as shorter but more "muscular" than Aragorn).

Of course, the hobbits meet "Strider the Ranger" who is particularly unkempt (at least the films were correct about the character with respect to his appearance if nothing else!). But I would say that whomever had been chosen to play the part in any film could not be "pretty" and certainly not overly young. Aragorn's "beauty" is of the soul and of the mind, not necessarily of the body. Wink Smilie
Welcome to our forum Mrs.Maggot; glad you finally made it in.

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Of course, the hobbits meet "Strider the Ranger" who is particularly unkempt (at least the films were correct about the character with respect to his appearance if nothing else!). But I would say that whomever had been chosen to play the part in any film could not be "pretty" and certainly not overly young. Aragorn's "beauty" is of the soul and of the mind, not necessarily of the body.
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'I see,' laughed Strider, 'I look foul and feel fair. Is that it? All that is gold does not glitter, ...
It's true that the Aragorn character in the book and in the movie differ, still, I like Viggo Mortensen as Aragorn. I also think having differences in characters using actors in a movie is normal because someone exactly like a fictive character doesn't exist. Maybe if it would be an animated movie, the characters from the book and the movie would be more alike. Because in drawings you have more artistic freedom, like you have in a book. In a normal movie, you are bound to reality. Imagine Gollum being also an actor in physical shape, in stead of a computer generated character.

But what I actually wanted to ask you is this. In the movie, Elrond was almost angry with Aragorn because Arwen chooses him in stead of leaving with the other Elves. He also doesn't show any understanding for her descission. My impression when reading the book was that Elrond supported Aragorn and was very understanding and kind. He accepted Arwen's choice. Am I wrong at this? Did Elrond blame Aragorn for 'losing' his daughter to the mortal world?
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My impression when reading the book was that Elrond supported Aragorn and was very understanding and kind. He accepted Arwen's choice.
That was my general impression from the book too, gnampie. What the film fails to portray, however, is the length of time Aragorn and Arwen have been an item. In the book Elrond is obviously saddened to be losing Arwen, but a lot of time has passed since she and Aragorn made their feelings felt. I think any of the anger he shows to Aragorn in the film would have occured in that grey period not covered in detail by the book. In the book he has had time to come to terms with his potential loss, even though he has set Aragorn the task of reuniting the lands of Gondor and the North Kingdom.
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Did Elrond blame Aragorn for 'losing' his daughter to the mortal world?
No, as Val said he had plenty of time to become accustomed to the fact that he was losing a daughter.

In TA 2951 Arwen first met Aragorn on her return to Rivendell from Lothlůrien
In TA 2980 they were engaged in Lothlůrien
In TA 3019 they were married in Minas Tirith

Even for an Elf that would have been plenty of time for Elrond to see it was inevitable; he might as well go with the flow rather than becoming a bitter old Elf like PJ made him out to be. Tolkien's Elrond supported Aragorn in his quest for the kingship and I believe he used Aragorn's infatruation with Arwen as a lever toward that end. But of course, I may be wrong.

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Thank you Val and Grondy! Glad to hear my impression was right. I always loved this sentence:

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Aragorn sat with his head bowed to his knees; only Elrond knew fully what this hour meant to him.


It's such a short simple sentence but it gave me the feelling Elrond fully supported Aragorn, and loved him dearly, like a father would love his son.
Yes, i agree with all above posts, movie Elrond didn't accept Arwen's choice and even tried to send Arwen away... but i don't understand why Aragorn gives back the jewel to Arwen in TTT and tells her to leave for the Grey Havens. Later on, he even tells Eowyn she is off.

So in my opinion PJ only showed the romance like this because he apparently thinks in the books there is something romantic between Eowyn and Aragorn too... i don't know.

Other reason why PJ could have done it, is to confuse the audience by making a typical week-day soap love triangle. Or maybe PJ found it stupid to extend Arwen's role in the movies without extending the role of Eowyn.



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Aragorn sat with his head bowed to his knees; only Elrond knew fully what this hour meant to him.
Yes, I love this sentence too. And I totally agree with you Gnampie. Elrond did help raise Aragorn sort of like Bilbo raised Frodo, with the twins as the older, really cool "cousins" to look up to. Can't you picture a really excited teenage Aragorn going on his first hunting trip with the twins? Wink Smilie
I think that the relationship between Aragorn and Elrond was somewhat similar to the relationship between Tolkien himself and his foster father, Father Francis. Father Francis was a very demanding but a very loving guardian, and he evidently thought high about Tolkien's intelligence and his linguistic skills and did not want him to spoils these talents by unsufficient effort. Tolkien was a poor, dispossessed orphan, and Father Francis supported his education out of his own money. He pushed him to work very hard, but it proved to be for his good: as a result, Tolkien became an Oxford don while still very young and thanks to that he could lead a very interesting, intelectually stimulating and rather high-status existence in a very pleasant environment (Oxford is so beautiful, a real Elfland, at least its ancient part! Smile Smilie. It was worthwhile to work hard to gain that "kingdom"!
Like Elrond, Father Francis also made obstacles for Tolkien's love for Edith Bratt. He insisted that Tolkien should not meet her nor even write to her until being 21 years old. So, like Aragorn, also Tolkien had to prove to be worthy of his love, and to strive hard for this!
Actually, both LOTR and the "Silmarillion" are full of stories about foster fathers and foster sons. Bilbo and Frodo, Frodo and Sam (although I agree that their relationship was much more complex!), Theoden and Eomer, Hurin and Huor fostered for a while by Turgon, Tuor and the Elf Annael (by the way, I do not understand why Annael abandoned Tuor as a slave in hands of the Easterlings after so many years of being a foster father to him!), Turin and Thingol... Well, Thingol was certainly generous in becoming a foster father for Turin, but he made on me an impression of being a rather cold person, not warm enough to break the defences of the boy. Finally, it was rather Beleg who became first a real foster father, and then the truest of friends for Turin! And, finally, Elrond and Elros captured but then fostered by Maglor. Did I forget anybody? Smile Smilie

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I think you named them all... but okay : Morgoth and Sauron (heh).

It is true that JRRT put a lot of his own life experience into his works : Mordor for example is based partly on the wastelands of Verdun during WW1. The character of Aragorn is pretty much based on JRRT, who indeed had to struggle a lot in his life too like Aragorn before he became 'King'.

And of course the most obvious input in one of his books is Tom Bombadil.
okay one thing before you start throughing yourself on Aragorn.... HE'S MARRIED!!!!!!!! with a few kids I might add. And man I don't think you want to mess with Arwen.. cause Elrond would beat your butt!!!!! and even if Arwen wasn't there you'd have to get through Eowyn and she is one tough chick!!!!! Sad Smilie sorry to disapoint you!!!
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okay one thing before you start throughing yourself on Aragorn.... HE'S MARRIED!!!!!!!! with a few kids I might add.
Explain please? Elf Confused Smilie
Well HobbitHomie, even if he was not a fictional caracter, none of us can have Aragorn. He died (many) ages ago, and so did Arwen, and their children are dead too. And their grandchildren, and their children and so on.. Elrond and his twin sons are most likely still alive though.. *dreams*

Viggo Mortensen is divorced and has a 12-year old son.
What if he wasent dead Dead Smilie
I am a man in this because of him if he wasent in the book or the movies than i would be an eelf
Who said we were interested in ARagorn? But he is real cool. ARagorn is one of the best characters, but in the film, he's one of the worst. DId you see that kiss at the very end of tRotk? It was like a lion. "Open your mouth, and go in for the kill!" and all that, "Stuff off, Arwen, go away, and you too Eowyn, go away, don't want either of you, and then, come here, aRwen, I like you now!"
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