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100th reply.
Aye.
well guys and gals
methinks Alan Rickman wins by a landslide.
does anyone know who will be playing Bilbo?
Guys???
I just read the news
Rowan Atkinson as Bilbo... :shock:
thoughts please :ugeek:
I posted my initial reaction on the casting for Bilbo thread :shock: . I think it's a loopy decision, but hey--it's Del Toro--he must see something in Mr Bean I don't. I'm just going to have to trust his Direction.

[b:30eghqkt]Gandalfs Beard[/b:30eghqkt]
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":2fim66ls]I posted my initial reaction on the casting for Bilbo thread :shock: . I think it's a loopy decision, but hey--it's Del Toro--he must see something in Mr Bean I don't. I'm just going to have to trust his Direction.

[b:2fim66ls]Gandalfs Beard[/b:2fim66ls][/quote:2fim66ls]


I totally agree because well...Mr. Bean? :shock:
there has to be something Del Toro sees that we do not
I totally agree because well...Mr. Bean? :shock:
there has to be something Del Toro sees that we do not




I agree as well! But I'm still skeptic about his decision :?
Rowan Atkinson as Bilbo!
Amazing!
He has just the voice, appearance and comic timing.
Maybe not a Mister Bean approach.
But his rendition of Johnny English is similar to how I imagined a fifty-year-old Bilbo.
I haven't seen that character Barrel. But he does have a great sense of comic timing, so I am getting used to the possibilities now that some of the shock is wearing off :lol: .

[b:3dd3p6xh]Gandalf's Beard[/b:3dd3p6xh]
Rowan Atkinson as Bilbo?

I can't imagine!!! :shock:
The more I think about it the more I like it. Atkinson was also in the Blackadder series set in Medieval times, Regency period, Elizabethan, WWI etc.. And as The Hobbit is supposed to be more comical this will be right up his alley. Yes the idea of Atkinson as Bilbo is really starting to grow on me :mrgreen: --this better not be an April Fools Joke <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />.

[b:278ma1e2]Gandalf's Beard[/b:278ma1e2]
I was just getting used to the idea but Ady fessed up. Yes it's an April Fools Joke :lol: .
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":11pzooh6]I was just getting used to the idea but Ady fessed up. Yes it's an April Fools Joke :lol: .[/quote:11pzooh6]

Thank goodness!
I just hope Mr. Atkinson doesn't accidentally pull a Mr. Bean moment when he finds the ring I can only see him in the skit he did when he was in the church and he blew his nose on his shirt man that had me rolling.
so do you guys think that Atkinson will make Bilbo more similar to Mr.Bean? or will he make it believable as a younger version of Ian Holm? <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />
[quote="jrjhoe":1repwoj4][quote="Gandalfs Beard":1repwoj4]I was just getting used to the idea but Ady fessed up. Yes it's an April Fools Joke :lol: .[/quote:1repwoj4]

Thank goodness![/quote:1repwoj4]


*FAINT*
hoooo boy is my face red :oops:
well hey gota say they had me fooled :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
well guys being as I brought this up just color me Orc Red :oops: :oops:
it is just and April Fools Joke and they had me fooled all the way
sorry gang I will try to be a little more careful next time :ugeek:
No Worrys Mate!!! I fell for it too. :roll: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[b:2dtot4fo]Gandalf's Beard[/b:2dtot4fo]
[quote="Sauron222":3g69ze40]:lol: :lol: :lol:
well guys being as I brought this up just color me Orc Red :oops: :oops:
it is just and April Fools Joke and they had me fooled all the way
sorry gang I will try to be a little more careful next time :ugeek:[/quote:3g69ze40]

I think we all fell for it so don't feel bad! I was convinced as well :oops: :lol:
thank you my friends
so any thoughts on who will play Bilbo? :ugeek:
[quote="Sauron222":3bbbxl36]thank you my friends
so any thoughts on who will play Bilbo? :ugeek:[/quote:3bbbxl36]

Maybe Jim Carrey? <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
Way too tall :lol: . If Jack Black could pull off a British accent he might be an entertaining pick. Maybe in the inevitable spoof film. I can see Jack Black as a Hobbit now; he'd be smoking so much "pipeweed" he'd never make it out of the Shire :lol: .

[b:f9qihb3i]Gandalf's Beard[/b:f9qihb3i]
[quote="jrjhoe":12rl7k7g][quote="Sauron222":12rl7k7g]thank you my friends
so any thoughts on who will play Bilbo? :ugeek:[/quote:12rl7k7g]

Maybe Jim Carrey? <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />[/quote:12rl7k7g]


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

good one my friend I can picture him doing his Ace Ventura bit as he finds the One Ring :lol: :lol: :lol:
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":da8df6za]Way too tall :lol: . If Jack Black could pull off a British accent he might be an entertaining pick. Maybe in the inevitable spoof film. I can see Jack Black as a Hobbit now; he'd be smoking so much "pipeweed" he'd never make it out of the Shire :lol: .

[b:da8df6za]Gandalf's Beard[/b:da8df6za][/quote:da8df6za]


yeah and then he would to do a rock off with Smaug <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
I can totally see Jakc Black in a spoof film that would be awesome
Um... Jack Black already did a spoof for LotR. He was in Elrond's Councel scene. It was done by the folks from MTV if I remember right. I know the special extended edition has it as an easter egg on disc 1. You had to enter the scene selection menu and go all the way to the bottom. Press down one more time and a ring would appear on the screen. Hit enter then and you can view it in all it's strange glory.

If he did do a full length spoof KG would have to show up at some point.
You're right Show. I almost forgot about that spoof. That was hilarious. I had no idea it was included as an Easter Egg. I can't wait to check it out on my DVD. :mrgreen:

[b:3afzw3rf]Gandalf's Beard[/b:3afzw3rf]
thats right I totally forgot about that :lol:
it was awesome but I had no idea it was an Easter egg item on the disc
well you learn something new everyday. <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />

do we know who if Johns Rhys Davies will return to play any of the dwarves who accompany Bilbo on his journey to Lonely Mountain :ugeek:
If I was a bettin' man, I would say no. His makeup for the film just destroyed his skin and made him uncomfortable throughout the entire filming process. He was iritated on set by the prostetics and off-screen he felt awkward because his whole face was creepy like a lepor.

That said, he did do the voice for Treebeard, so perhaps he will have some sort of voice over part, a spider maybe?
Maybe the voice of Sauron can become a combination of John Rhys-Davies and Christopher Lee's voices?
I think i like the guy they had do the black speech sentances all through out LOTR for the voice of Sauron. For some reason his name escapes me right now. My question is who do you all think would do the part of Thranduil justice????? This has been nagging at me for a while. Who best to play the father of the one and only Legolas??
[quote="lothierial":1twpme8y]I think i like the guy they had do the black speech sentances all through out LOTR for the voice of Sauron. For some reason his name escapes me right now. My question is who do you all think would do the part of Thranduil justice????? This has been nagging at me for a while. Who best to play the father of the one and only Legolas??[/quote:1twpme8y]



oh man ,nice one who indeed! OK I will start how about.....Zachary Quinto ? a bit premature since the new ST movie is coming out but at least it is a start or would you want an unknown ?
Well, I recently re-watched HP 5 (Order of the Phoenix) and was reminded what a great actor Gary Oldman is. He would be great in some sort of role in the Hobbit. I dare say he'd be a good Smaug too <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> . Even though Rickman is still my first choice, I'm moving Oldman up into second choice <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> . Oldman might (with a change in hair colour) make a good Thranduil too.

[b:1b7f0y8f]Gandalf's Beard[/b:1b7f0y8f]
[quote="Sauron222":1285nxjv]oh man ,nice one who indeed! OK I will start how about.....Zachary Quinto ? a bit premature since the new ST movie is coming out but at least it is a start or would you want an unknown ?[/quote:1285nxjv]

Hmmmm interesting but a little too dark for what i would picture the king of the mirkwood elves as. I just had an insane thought! What about Cary Elwes?? Of course he would need to lose some weight to get back to his original awesomeness but i just saw this pic and it made me think what if???? <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/acto ... _elwes.jpg
Bring on Nick Frost as Thranduil!
[color=#40FF00:1mn5f39w]please say that is a joke??? :lol: [/color:1mn5f39w]
We all know when it comes to crunch time their going to pick James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman. :lol:
SOmehow, I could totally see Morgan Freeman playing Smaug. I looove his voice. Him or the dude who did Darth Vader, rofl... (jk)
Alan Rickman
Gary Oldman

...If either of them cannot be pegged for the part....

Michael Wincott can do a good accent and has the raspiness, intelligence, and malice in his voice do play Smaug very well.
Ooh, Alan Rickman would be great!! not quite as he did snape, though- its a bit.. overdone in my opinion. But he would be great!
Yes, Rickman is already among the top choices of a majority of Forum members 8-) (including myself). Gary Oldman is my second choice. I also like Brad Dourif for the part, but he is already well known as Wormtongue to LotR fans, so he is probably out.

[b:12jz7sor]GB[/b:12jz7sor]
[quote="lothierial":2dyja06m][quote="Sauron222":2dyja06m]oh man ,nice one who indeed! OK I will start how about.....Zachary Quinto ? a bit premature since the new ST movie is coming out but at least it is a start or would you want an unknown ?[/quote:2dyja06m]

Hmmmm interesting but a little too dark for what i would picture the king of the mirkwood elves as. I just had an insane thought! What about Cary Elwes?? Of course he would need to lose some weight to get back to his original awesomeness but i just saw this pic and it made me think what if???? <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/acto ... _elwes.jpg[/quote:2dyja06m]

Yo, I'm new. I just saw that pic of Cary Elwes, and though I don't know him, I still have to say Great Choice! (At least as far as looks go... 8-) ). Don't know how he acts though, maybe you could give me some reference? And I'd just like to say that I think Rickman would be awesome as Smaug! Although he should deepen his voice a bit more; and definitely NOT like Snape, 'cause that would be way overboard!

What really interests me though are the casts for Thorin and Bard. :?: I think someone like Viggo would fit prefectly; not Viggo himself, but the way he played Aragorn really showed someone with authority and even a hint of nobility (at least at the beginning of the movie; it becomes more noticeable as the movies continue of course). Don't have any ideas yet, but any suggestions are more than welcome!

That being said, I really hate myself for not having found this site sooner :oops: Anyone wanna send a virtual smack in my direction?
For some interesting light fantasy with Cary Elwes check out [u:150j48h4]The Princess Bride[/u:150j48h4] and [u:150j48h4]Robin Hood: Men in Tights[/u:150j48h4].
Princess is a children's fantasy that was really good all around, and Robin Hood was a Mel Brooks film (parody/spoof).
sends virtual *smack* to Silme, jk, jk. (HEYA, nice to meet the tengwar representation of S, lol Means 'starlight' ri?)

Reallly, I couldt see Cary Elwes playing any serious character...
[quote="hObBiTzWiLlEaTyOu":2h3xdi2m]sends virtual *smack* to Silme, jk, jk. (HEYA, nice to meet the tengwar representation of S, lol Means 'starlight' ri?)

Reallly, I couldt see Cary Elwes playing any serious character...[/quote:2h3xdi2m]

Yeah, I guess you're right... he does have the face for it though, I can totally see him as Thranduil. And I deserved that smack, so don't worry.

Yup, silmė means starlight; it's the one word in the Tengwar that actually stuck in my head, so I decided for it. <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />
well you never know.... he might be decent... i just saw that pic and went hmmmm i wonder... ever get that feeling any other suggestions guys?? i think Rickman is still on top for the voice of smaug
I guess I'm in a minority here... but I was unhappy with John Rhys-Davies as the voice of Treebeard. Not that he didn't do a good enough job, it was simply that I immediately recognized him as Gimli and felt that having a NEW voice for a NEW character should have trumped the expediency of using someone who was already on the payroll...

As for Smaug... and maybe someone has already suggested this, but how about Jeremy Irons?

He lacks the deep resonance that some have suggested is necessary, but his voice has a silky-sinister-intellectual quality that I think would be fitting. Kinda' like what I imagine Satan's voice might have sounded like when convincing Eve to eat the apple.
[quote="Fatboy George":1yuwiyuh]As for Smaug... and maybe someone has already suggested this, but how about Jeremy Irons?

He lacks the deep resonance that some have suggested is necessary, but his voice has a silky-sinister-intellectual quality that I think would be fitting. Kinda' like what I imagine Satan's voice might have sounded like when convincing Eve to eat the apple.[/quote:1yuwiyuh]

[color=#0000BF:1yuwiyuh]Ya i think some one did suggest jeremy irons and yes i do agree that he would be good if he could force his voice a little deeper because i do agree with you that he does have a very sinister intellectual sounding voice that would be good for the part but my eyes are still on Rickman :lol: don't ask me why i just love that thought![/color:1yuwiyuh]
During work today a nome popped into my head...

Bill Nighy

I think he could pull it off.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting suggestion...... maybe just maybe..... if he could be a little bit deeper with his tone...... he definitely has creepy and sly down to a t. I actually just watched the new underworld movie for the first time like 2 nights ago <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
Bill Nighy is a great idea 8-) 8-) . I had totally forgotten about him, but he would be brilliant too. I just saw him (and Rickman) in Hairspray recently.

[b:kux4w893]GB[/b:kux4w893]
No worries about upsetting anyone here [b:1bu4xrek]Orso[/b:1bu4xrek]. Your views are perfectly valid.

I never noticed until someone told me that Gimli and Treebeard were voiced by the same actor :oops: . And there is a good chance that Del Toro will think along the same lines as you when casting Smaug <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> .

However, it's a lot of fun speculating on which of our favourite actors should play the part. If they go the Eastern European route, I think Udo Kier would be brilliant. But, I admit, I am attached to the idea of Alan Rickman in the role.

And welcome to the forum by the way.

[b:1bu4xrek]GB[/b:1bu4xrek]
Hello People,

At the risk of upsetting people in my first post here, I agree with Fatboy George about Treebeards voice - I think it was a real misstep to have used JR-Ds voice for Treebeard - simply because it was so absolutely recognisable as being that of Gimli. I had my little grandchild comment on that almost instantly when he appeared on screen & spoke.

Perhaps it was a nod to the origins of Ents being in response to the creation of the Dwarves ( I could be wrong on that, but it's what I recall it being - another Valar's response to Aulwe's (sp?) creation of the Dwarves ? ) but I doubt it.

I would prefer the voice of Smaug to not be that of a widely recognisable actor - I've always found it to detract from the actual character in CG/animatronics - to me Smaug should be Smaug, not such & such an actor.

I've always read the Dragons as North Eastern European ( and there's the burden for anyone doing a movie of any book , but massively so with Tolkien - peoples "inner voices & visions" of the world & characters created in the books ) so German/Danish/Swedish/Russian etc etc - something other than UK . If it were to be a recognisable voice ( well, to those who see a few non Hollywood movies ) I would pick Klaus Maria Brandauer - a superb voice that could have all the power of a massive
& ancient creature within it, plus the slimey guile & persuasive tone he uses on Bilbo in their confrontation.

But really, there are thousands of voice actors that could do it, better than the big name actors........... mind you , I do like the thought of Ian McShane if it has to be a Brit - his range from Disraeli through to Swearengen in terms of vocal "inflection" is pretty impressive!

And the look of Smaug, in this day & age, needs to be monstrous ( but elegant - he's Got to have the bejewelled belly), not cartoonish, as I think the Hobbit movie needs to be in line with the LOTR movies & more adult than the way it was written originally, for children growing up between the two world wars - as much as I love The Hobbit book as it was written.

Orso
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