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I have seen older actors made to look like their younger selves in brief hazy/sepia flashbacks. That would be hard to do for a whole film. But surely with good make-up and a bit of CGI it could be done properly. It would be my preference to see all the originals filling their roles. But as that seems extremely unlikely, we (or rather DT and PJ) are stuck with the thankless task of finding someone to fill Ian's shoes.

Meany could possibly work because he's still younger than Holm is now. And he could probably be made to look similar to Holm's flashback sequence of finding the Ring in Gollum's Cave in LotR.

[b:u6nzljfq]GB[/b:u6nzljfq]
Yeah you are probably right, I think Holm will be 79 on Saturday so I think I can see where the problems lie. I agree Meany would probably fit the role well but it just won't be the same as having Holm, I don't think :roll: .
I know that they've found a bilbo, but does anyone other than Ian Mckellen and the obvious know? Have they released the name yet?
There has been no announcement, but McKellen implied that the actor had been chosen. He did say "Frodo," has been chosen, but many people are assuming he meant "Bilbo." He is getting old, btw <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> .
As others have already mentioned in this thread, I think James McAvoy would make a good choice for Bilbo.. Seeing him as the faun, Mr Tumnus, in The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe, there was something hobbity about him.. Hes also a popular actor at the moment.. Im sure Del Torro would choose an actor who was known, rather than a complete unknown.. As it will be a huge film, so best not to take too big a risk.. Other than him, I like the sound of Michael Sheen.. Hes a fab actor & is also very popular at the moment.. I think he has curly hair in real life too, so halfway to being a hobbit already, haha <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
Wait, Michael Sheen? isn't he playing Aro in New Moon or something? That, to me, hating twilight, is a bit of a turn off. I'll have to see how he does in the movie... I don't really care who they pick, because i know he'll be the one!
I think David Tennant would be great...He has a personality fitting for the role plus he resembles a hobbit in many aspects...He has that hobbit like expression
How bout the comedian ALAN Davies to play BILBO, he looks a bit like a hobbit already!
The child actor who played Rowland 'Rowland' Browning, in Grange Hill.
Call me crazy but when my sons were watching the Wiggles the other day...I saw Bilbo Baggins singing "you make me feel like dancing"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwy1x0-cZaI


------Leo Sawyer-----


He looks just like him....the right age group and has and accent to boot!!!
Very funny! Aufle video if I may say so though...? Haven't heard of the wiggles btw sorry lol!

Btw Lester Cat I remember Grange Hill being on Childrens tv, I hated it, really dumb tv series (lets see if I can use a rubbish phrase like that and get away with it lol), it sort of encouraged kids to watch Eastenders when they got older, appalling series.




Oh and Btw its my Birthday today so I'm happy lol!
God, I haven't seen Leo Sayer in years. He would have made quite the Bilbo back in the day :lol: .

[b:1mv065ag]GB[/b:1mv065ag]
I'm not too familiar with actors, but I [i:1z2pu1b0]really[/i:1z2pu1b0] hope that they don't cast [url=http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/08/26/33309-and-bilbo-is-tom-cruise/#more-33309:1z2pu1b0]Tom Cruise or Daniel Radcliffe[/url:1z2pu1b0] as Bilbo. :roll: I also hope that whoever they cast is able to pull off the Hobbitish nature: initial reluctance to adventure, lack of superb athletic ability, and the like.

Also, happy birthday [b:1z2pu1b0]B'arelyn[/b:1z2pu1b0]!
Oh puhlease :roll: . It's Jackson and Del Toro. Cruise and Radcliffe have a snowball's chance in hell of playing Bilbo :lol: . Thank God (and that's coming from a Potter fan too <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> ).

And Happy Birthday B'arelyn. It's a shame we can't all get together and Throw a Hobbit Party for your Birthday. Eat some Birthday cake and think of us all at Bilbo's having a Feast :mrgreen: .

[b:2fxcf36p]GB[/b:2fxcf36p]
Well, apparently Radcliffe isn't too interested. And I'm not taking most of these rumors very seriously since there generally is either minimal or no evidence for them.

I do that Mr. McKellen was right and that we'll know soon though. :mrgreen:
I agree Radcliffe would totaly unsuit the role and I agree with GB that there very little chance of it happening. As for Tom cruise I think thats even more unlikely.

Lol I wish I could have had a Long Expected Party like Bilbo's and Frodo's joint one! Thanks and has anyone seen Dorian Grey latley?
I am not a big fan of Radcliffe to play Bilbo yet I would rather deal with the confusion of Harry Potter playing Bilbo than James McAvoy. I think if they go this direction they should invite Michael Gambon to play Gandalf, and just to really confuse us and ruin what this movie could be add Ron and Hermione to play dwarfs. Speaking of Gambon I'd rather see Top Gears Richard Hammond play Bilbo rather than McAvoy, and in that I'm only half kidding. I don't understand how McAvoy has not been ruled out, AHHHHHHRRRRRRRHHHHH! I am not set on who I think should play Bilbo, but I do not like the idea of most of the actors that seem to be in the running or rumored. Tom Cruise? Come on! Dr. Who? Thank you very much but NO; the man looks more like an elf. I do agree with the suggestion of John Billingsley, but I do not see him selling many tickets. I am forced to suggested something bizarre, so please consider Mike Myers. Yes, he is a big name and more well known for comedy, yet he is an actor of depth. If someone has already suggested this I apologize; I've been off for a while and didn't make it through all of the post before making this suggestion.
I'd could really see Emile Hirsch as a hobbit...

[url:1se5kfuk]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0386472/[/url:1se5kfuk]
I believe there is an actor who fits the part of Bilbo perfectly. He is british, he is an amazing actor, he's starred in fantasy films before. Its the one and only Ray Winstone. If you think about, he'd be absolutely perfect, and would bring in a touch of strength and charisma to the role.
I've never heard of Ray Winstone but ... strength and charisma? In [i:r6d4gg0r]Bilbo[/i:r6d4gg0r]!? I admit it's been a while since I read the book, but that doesn't quite sound like Bilbo to me.
To remain consistent between films they should cast Ian Holmes as Bilbo in 'The Hobbit' as well. In 'The Fellowship', Gandalf tells Bilbo: "You haven't aged a day!"...so his age really shouldn't be an issue. Also, they have already used Ian for the flashback's to Gollum's Cave, so getting another actor to fill the role wouldn't allow the films to flow together as they should.
[quote="lordlydragon":3airvzpi]In 'The Fellowship', Gandalf tells Bilbo: "You haven't aged a day!"...so his age really shouldn't be an issue. Also, they have already used Ian for the flashback's to Gollum's Cave, so getting another actor to fill the role wouldn't allow the films to flow together as they should.[/quote:3airvzpi]

Gandalf did use that line (one from the book if I'm not mistaken), but we know from what we SAW in the Prologue that Bilbo had indeed aged quite noticeably since the Quest of Erebor. We can only conclude that in the movie Gandalf meant that Bilbo hadn't aged since Gandalf had last seen him at some point after the events of The Hobbit.

For the movies to remain internally consistent they would have to be constantly giving Ian Holm a facelift to make him look younger, which I doubt Mr. Holm is enthused by. They can't really be consistent unless Holm wants to go through that process for every single day of shooting.
hopefully we'll have a complete unknown actor for Bilbo, the story doesn't need a big name.The film should carry itself, and by that we mean be a multi million pound block buster, sadly.
I agree with Lester Cat that the character Bilbo should be played by someone who fits the role not just because they happen to be famous, and I'm sure when it comes to casting the right guy will be chosen thanks to Del toro. The LotR films weren't filmed in a boring typical American all-action block buster and that was why the film was so successful, it took a genuine look at the LotR. The casting was good because genuine actors were chosen.

A funny example of a film in that boring style is the Carson Clay character in Mr Bean's Holiday when the credits to his film come up it just keeps saying his name over and over.
[quote="B'arelyn Dwarf":cye2bfbh]I agree with Lester Cat that the character Bilbo should be played by someone who fits the role not just because they happen to be famous, and I'm sure when it comes to casting the right guy will be chosen thanks to Del toro. The LotR films weren't filmed in a boring typical American all-action block buster and that was why the film was so successful, it took a genuine look at the LotR. The casting was good because genuine actors were chosen.[/quote:cye2bfbh]

Strangely this is exactly why my girlfriend doesnt like the films. She accuses them of using hollywood pretty boys rather than genuine actors who look the part. I happen to disagree with her on that particular stance.

Incidentally does anyone else find they dont know any of the actors that have been named here?

Seriously I dont recognise any of them by name. Who is Ron Pearlman? And where might I find a film in which he doesnt have big red horns stuck to his face?
actors were chosen to be easy on the eye,rightly or wrongly, i believe wrongly.Safe bets were chosen every time.
Yosser hughes should have been Aragorn,right age , persona, etc.
There's nothing 'kingly' about Viggo, good though he is.
The glossy sheen that permeates LOTR just doesn't sit right with me.
I can't find it now, but I drew a picture of Aragorn back in High School (1980s). It looked just like Viggo :P . Frodo looked a lot like he is pictured in Bakshi's film (and much how I imagined him. The whole cast looked very much how I always imagined the characters so I don't have a problem at all. But to each their own <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> .

[b:2pkewypw]GB[/b:2pkewypw]
I disagree that Viggo was wrong for the role, although the beard he had didn't really suit a king, needs to be much bushier.
In reply to [color=#FFFF00:34gmmg9c]Lester Cat[/color:34gmmg9c], (RE: "Yosser Hughes" as Aragorn):
I thought that you might be interested to know that your choice for Aragorn actually played another major role in LOTR. In the British television series "Boys from the Blackstuff," appears, as Yosser Hughes, a much younger Bernard Hill, who would gain greater fame, some twenty years later, playing King Theoden in LOTR.
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":3ceg26ov]I can't find it now, but I drew a picture of Aragorn back in High School (1980s). It looked just like Viggo :P . Frodo looked a lot like he is pictured in Bakshi's film (and much how I imagined him. The whole cast looked very much how I always imagined the characters so I don't have a problem at all. But to each their own <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> .

[b:3ceg26ov]GB[/b:3ceg26ov][/quote:3ceg26ov]

I very much agree with you on this one GB. I was afraid that when they anounced they were making films of LOTR I was really worried cuz I've been a fan of the books since i was in middle school (so a LONG time :lol: ) but I was pleasantly suprised that for the first time I think ever the actors cast looked quite similar to what I had imagined as I did when I first read the trilogy. And for the record I love how Viggo portrayed Aragorn <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> although I do agree with B'arelyn Dwarf that I wasn't a big fan of the beard either.... should have been clean shaven or quite a bit bushier. <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
Reply to [color=#00FF00:1vb3s7fq]Elladan[/color:1vb3s7fq], (RE: Ron Perlman iquiry):
Ron Perlman can be found on an American cable television (FX) series called "Sons of Anarchy" in which he plays the leader of a motorcycle gang. I think he would make an ideal Beorn. You can also see Perlman in "The Name of the Rose" with Sean Connery (who has my vote to be the voice of Smaug).
...And in Titanic! <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
Ian Holm should at least appear in a cameo (perhaps in a narrative role as he sits writing "There and Back Again"Wink Smilie.
If y'all go back and check your extended edition DVDs (I know you've got them <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> ), you will note that the scraggy goatee turns into a full fledged kingly beard by the time Aragorn is crowned. Indeed the Beard symbolizes his current state of mind. After Aragorn wholeheartedly embraces his destiny, his Beard graciously follows suit.

[b:37mb7r9n]GB[/b:37mb7r9n]

Edit:
By the way [b:37mb7r9n]Inahole[/b:37mb7r9n], welcome to the forum. I agree that a cameo as Older Bilbo might be in the cards, which makes choosing someone with similar features even more important.
I will check that out GB I didn't know his beard got bushier sorry!

Oh and Beren mentioned Martin Freeman on the first page ages ago but I think in terms of looks he is Bilbo but I'm not too sure about acting wise because he's been in alot of comedy, although I'm not sure. He was in The Office with Ricky Gervais (whose a sell out btw!) wasn't he?
I think that the choice of Young Bilbo should come down more to acting style and ability than appearance, and that innate personalities and characteristics of the actors are important factors. I also agree that the role should be played by someone who thoroughly understands the nuances of British English (i.e. the part requires someone from the British isles). Colm Meaney and James McAvoy could both carry the part very competently, but I'd lean more toward McAvoy because he projects more of the naivete (he is after all much younger than Meaney) that one might expect from a 51-year-old hobbit (which, with regard to life-cycle stages, is roughly similar to a 30-year-old man). Meaney, on the other hand, would make a fine Thorin Oakenshield (the character whose avarice and stubbornness almost single-handedly produce the tensions leading up to the Battle of Five Armies).
I agree that actng style and personality are extremely important factors [b:c68do10q]Inahole[/b:c68do10q]. But appearance is also important for continuities sake. I'm sure that there is someone who can accommodate both factors.

[b:c68do10q]GB[/b:c68do10q]
I disagree Inahole, that Colm Meany would fit the role of Thorin Oakenshield, I think Meany looks too much like a hobbit to be a dwarf. I also think although I had thought that MacAvoy would be perfect for the role before, that MacAvoy wouldprobably be too young (although Frodo doesn't look 50 in the LotR).
I know Yosser played Theoden, that's why i mentioned him,Inaholeinthegroundetc,
Aragorn must of been about 65-70, though good for his age,granted, i just think he was better suited for the role.
I'm going out on a limb here, Lester Cat, but I believe Aragorn was 87-88 at the time of LOTR (making him about 10 at the time of The Hobbit). Maybe someone can pin it down for us. Anyway, I can't see the Aragorn character being of any consequence in The Hobbit, although he was certainly in the vicinity during the visit of The Company to Rivendell.

Are there any substantiated rumors regarding potential plots for The Hobbit movies beyond the book text. If we're speculating on which actors might appear in various roles, it seems like fair game to also speculate upon which roles might be available beyond those found in the text of The Hobbit. It seems to me that Legolas (Thranduil's son) and Gimli (Gloin's son) would be too tempting to pass up because their presence could be so easily explained.
Oh, you definitely ought to check out the "should Legolas be in the Hobbit" thread then <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> .

[b:uz18gggf]GB[/b:uz18gggf]
Um its totally irellevent but I just wanted to ask Inahole about Montgomery, because its where Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks lead the Bus Boycott, I know very little about Montegommery, and I know I should go check this out my self in Google earth but is it a big city or just a small town? You must be red hot on your facts about Dr.King. I am half way through a Geography GCSE course, suppose there's no hope of me getting A* lol. Exuse my English ingnorance!
I hope it's some quality stage actor up to the Ian McKellen quality. All the actors in the LOTR movies were very good, but I feel Ian McKellen was the stand out. The many actors in LOTR could share the load, but if El Toro keeps Bilbo as the central character - without too many diversions to other characters - he'll need to be an outstanding actor. It is, after all, 'The Hobbit'! It would be brave move to use Ian Holm, though I think he would be a great choice. Only I feel PJ - oh sorry, El Toro! - will want a much younger and spunkier actor. So, if I'm right, at least let him be a young prodigy of the stage! Not some half-trained glamor-boy movie star!

(I have a bad feeling about these movies!)

Regards,
Odo
Have you seen Pan's Labyrinth Odo? It's one of the few movies that is the exception to my "happy endings" rule (though I choose to believe the Phantastic ending is the real one). But it is a masterpiece of modern film-making. And it is the reason I think the Hobbit films will be brilliant. I can't imagine Del Toro making a bad Hobbit movie, or choosing a Hollywood Glamour-puss to play the lead.

[b:k8o9xey8]GB[/b:k8o9xey8]
For [color=#0000FF:hk4frdzn]B'arelyn Dwarf[/color:hk4frdzn]:
Montgomery is now a medium sized town of about 200,000 people, but most of the events and places connected with the Civil Rights Movement are located within a small area downtown, as Montgomery was much smaller at that time in history.

Try these websites:

The Rosa Parks Museum
[url:hk4frdzn]http://montgomery.troy.edu/rosaparks/museum/[/url:hk4frdzn]

Dexter Avenue King Memorial Baptist Church (where Dr. King was pastor during the bus boycott):
3w + dexterkingmemorial.org/
[copy and paste in browser address bar--only 1 URL allowed per post]

The Civil Rights Memorial Center:
3w + splcenter.org/crm/crmc.jsp
[copy/paste, etc.]

I'll end this here, to prevent any more huffing, puffing, and shifting from our fellow Tolkien enthusiasts hungry for conversation regarding The Hobbit, but you are quite welcome to contact me in a private post, or by email.
Gandalf's Beard, if you really do believe the fantastical ending to Pan's, then you are surely missing out on the whole heavy weight narrative, (for want of a better description), missing the point by a country mile?
Not really Lester Cat. The point of the Horrors of Fascism was made abundantly clear in the film :cry: . I think it would be missing the point though, to deny that the Magical elements are given equal weight by Del Toro. So the film is both Humanist and Transcendent simultaneously. The Tragedy is real (I cried like a baby), but so is the Mystical element. If I focused solely on the Tragedy, I would never watch the film again.

Anyway, this makes Del Toro eminently suited to film the Hobbit. And the fact that he is used to working with non-Hollywood actors (as well as Hollywood types), is a good sign for the casting of Bilbo :mrgreen: .

[b:2rkb4nd2]GB[/b:2rkb4nd2]
Thanks very much Inahole, the info you gave me was very helpful <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> . Thanks for replying!

Btw Pan's Laberinth is a great film, it has such an original storyline! It was a film in which I didn't ever know what was round the next corner, unlike typical hollywood films, which tell of sad tales. The ending, despite the violence and suffering throughout the film, was pretty happy and it really satisfied me as a viewer. Although it was happy, it wasn't Hollywood happy and I think that endings should be like that, ending on a plus and a minus. The film had a really brilliant atmosphere about it aswell, really creeps you out! I agree with GB that although I thought the film was brilliant, because it was so disturbing and sad, I don't think I'd watch it again.

I also have no doubt that Del Toro will pick the perfect Bilbo Baggins and that, in a agreement with GB, he won't be a Glamour-God with teeth that sparkle when he opens his mouth (although I think it's a possibility that he will choose someone who is already world famous, although I don't think this is why he will choose him). Although I really hope The Hobbit isn't filmed in the same sinister way that Pan's Laberinth was filmed, I think having Del Toro directing The Hobbit, it will be a very good film!
How about Mike Bailey (the Sid from Skins)? Hes at the age range i'd say (well, Elijah played frodo, so ...), hes is a good actor, british, not much famous and looks just like a hobbit. Some would say that he is a little young (hes 21 I guess) but, seriously, this is a hobbit that we are talking about not a human ... it makes sense to me the use of a young actor, just like they did with Frodo.
Do you mean the guy who was on [i:14ez6iut]Skins[/i:14ez6iut] in the old series?
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