Thread: Actors to play Bilbo
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Yep, Mike Bailey (that played Sid on the first/second Skins series). If they decide to make a younger version of Bilbo in this movie (and i think they should do it), like they did whith Frodo on LotR, I think he might be a good original choice. But, I don't know, it's just and idea ...
I know that James McAvoy seems to be the biggest choice right now, but what do people think of Jaime Bell?
He has worked with Peter Jackson before and i think that he could play the role of Bilbo very well, given the chance.
Humm, Jaime Bell could be a good choise too, well thought Borthengal. But I still stand fot Bailey cause he matches much more my vision of how a hobbit should look like.
Really, i think that to chose someone for this role just because looks like Holm is a huge mistake. I mean, this is not LotR, what is the real obligation with all this continuity? Also I just can't picture Mcavoy as Bilbo, that's to much confidence about his face for this. A Hobbit, in my point of view, should be a more fragil and childish creature. And thats exactly one of the points of the book: how a creature like that ends up facing a dragon! Thats also because I really think they should choose a younger Bilbo.
I have read now on many forums about the possible casting of David Tennant in the role of Bilbo, in the forthcoming film version of The Hobbit.
As a fellow Scotsman, and someone who has watched and appreciated his contribution to the continuing success of popular mainstream British television in recent years, I can understand the rise in speculation surrounding this casting whether it is based on fact or not.
However I sincerely hope this speculation is unfounded, as casting him in this role would be an unmitigated disaster. Although his particular style is well suited to many of his roles, his acting is not exactly what you would call ďunder-statedĒ and in my opinion this is exactly what is required for the role of Bilbo, Ė And Iím not just referring to Tennantís Doctor Who, but the many other roles Iíve seen him in on screen, and once on stage, where the rolling eyes and facial tics, seems to inevitably creep in. The increasingly tired manic oddness and the attempted hammy irony that permeates every interpretation of his, would be solely at odds with the quiet determination, bravery and naivety of Bilbo.
Seeing Tennant being interviewed numerous times, he comes across as a thoroughly decent bloke, with a lot of likability, and Iím in no doubt he will continue to grow in popularity with television audiences by cultivating and adapting his now trademark style. However hopefully I am not alone in hoping and praying he is given a wide berth from this project by the casting directors, and a actor with the correct skill and subtlety is given the opportunity to bring us the Bilbo that so many million fans deserve.
When I first read the idea of Colm Meaney playing Bilbo I wasn't sure how I felt about the idea. Having had some time to ruminate on the notion I must say that I think he would be a great choice for the part.
Well, I don't know the actors name, but the guy who played the head elf named Willie in the movie FRED CLAUS. I thought he would be perfect!
John Michael Higgins is his name. I think he would be PERFECT!!
Welcome to the forum FH
As a fellow Brit, I love Tennant's work, but I agree he's a bit frenetic for the role of Bilbo (not very Hobbity looking either). However, he's not wholly without subtlety, and his dramatic range is considerable making him not altogether unsuitable for the part. My main concern is that his "Bilbo" (should the rumours and innuendo be true) would be too dissimilar to Holm's and thus spoil continuity.
I already responded to this in the "Welcome" thread in this forum; let it suffice to say here that Tennant himself has said he won't be Bilbo.
The suspense is killing me!!!!! They must have an idea by now! or the actor should already know, right? filming begins in march!!!!!
I believe they've said that they want to finish the script before picking someone so potential actors can read through the script before deciding. Of course, there were a number of false alarms about both casting and finishing the script over the summer.
I'm sure the filmmakers have people in mind, but they still have a while to finalize the decision, though of course it's possible that it already has been but we just don't know.
none the less, the suspense is killing me. So the script is in the process of being written? So they must have gotten the green light from New Line, that's good. I guess I'll just have to be a bit more patient
The script has been in the process of being written before PJ ever mentioned this "green light". I haven't heard any more about this, but I really can't imagine the films being allowed to fall through given how much money they will undoubtedly make.
Probably think I'm mad but do you think that Kenneth Branagh might be fitting for the role, he's not really a very short person, but now he's older and wrinklier he does have something of a Hobbit complexion
. I think he might be ok.
You know, Branagh is quite a good suggestion B'arelyn. I don't know why he never crossed my mind. He's very adept at humour as well as drama, and with curly hair and the right expressions he could pass for a younger Holm.
Great scott !
Although these posts usually nark me,
BD's nailed it, i think Branarrgh, is pretty much spot on.
. I think that he could play Bilbo, he's got english wit
, he looks a bit like Ian Holm and he's a suberb actor.
Age, strong understated character actor, hobbity chops, good call BD.
Perfect in my opinion.
I agree Ian Holm was a fantastic Bilbo Baggins!
It's a shame he is too old to reprise his role....
I have no idea who could play Bilbo...but probably some unknown actor would be best. Just like with Frodo in LOTR.
Ya know, the more I think about Branagh as Bilbo, the more I like him for the part. Alrighty, he's now moved up to the top of my list for sure
what about simon pegg to player bilbo. give him a chub suit and bring a bit of his own confused wit with heroism at the end. if things must change, change to the extreme
Hmmm, Simon Pegg--now there's an idea
. And welcome to the forum BP.
I love Simon Pegg and I also agree with you BP that he's a great actor, the roles he has played before have been hilarious and I definately love him! I thought his role in Hot Fuzz was really funny, although I also thought the film was verging on tacky because of the constant swearing which kind of degraded it a bit. The plot was really good actually and I really enjoyed how it ended.
Jack Black, PJ seams to like him and he does look like a hobbit.
I like the idea of Rob M. If he can pull off a faun...I don't think that a Hobbit is such a stretch. And YES, they must really be British, or have the most flawless accents. I can't even watch Sanctuary for how bad her accent is!
i think robby coltrane should play bilbo
I think Coltrane would be to old. Jack Black is just irritating, and with the exception of King Kong, only ever plays very similar roles. I just dont think he would fit.
As for Simon Pegg, as funny as I think he is, I dont see him having the serious side required.
I think they should be looking at someone around 33-38 ish not only does it fit with the book, but any older may find problems doing the various stunts that will no doubt be required. And younger wont make that much sense. There is no time gap to be supressed/removed in this film so the makers wont be able to pull a Frodo.
Personally I want who ever plays him to be either such a good actor I forget I have seen them else where, or an unknown. Either way I think the acting should be the most important thing at abilities with physical humour a side note.
I also dont think looks are that important with reguards to matching up with Holme, the acting after all is the biggest factor in believeability, hopefully who ever plays him will watch Holmes performance and try to match characteristics in thier performance. We have to remember the huge mop of curly hair they will be required to wear. So really to get a decent match the face needs to be a similar shape and with features in similar proportions. Not to much to ask I feel.
Anyway I am rubbish with names so not sure who to suggest.
How about Leonardo di Caprio? The right age. Good actor. Roundish face, specially with a bit of chub on it, I reckon he could pull of a hobbit. May be a bit to tall though.
Just ignore me.
People would pay good money to see Leo pulling off a hobbit.
There is no way Leo can pull this off. I can't see him in this part. I suggest you pull the other one, Old Cat (and please leave Hobbits out of this!)
i think michael sheen was a good idea
pulling off a hobbit, pulling off a faun.
this is comedy gold to someone
not me though, right kids!
Lester there is a time and a place for everything (I guess) - including salacious and juvenile naughtiness - but I don't see this as the place.
I understand what you're saying Gandalf's Beard, Bilbo's responses are funny but non intentionally so, it's Tolkien telling the reader the joke not the Hobbit. I also have no doubt that Bilbo is a Hobbit with alot of wit about him, I forget what he calls the spiders in the Hobbit but I'm sure it's pretty funny!
Btw living in the Uk I haven't seen any episodes in the [i:3gdkctld]House[/i:3gdkctld] series, I'm guessing he's not playing the nice dope' in [i:3gdkctld]House[/i:3gdkctld], of which I'm most familiar him playing i.e. the Trinity Tiddler
I'm sure its been mentioned before but I think it's a shame Ian Holm can't play Bilbo but considering he's coming up to 80 next year I suppose its just not realistic
, he has alot more to do in the Hobbit obviously with all the activity he gets up to as opposed to the small part he played in the LotR triliogy, of which wasn't very strenuous acting. I think that maybe an actor like Elijah Wood might suffice, Hobbits generally look younger than they actually are, although that might also have something to do with Bilbo's ring. Elijah Wood was brilliant as Frodo considering he is American, I think it might be hard finding an actor of his unigue talent again but definatley worth it. Someone had mentioned Colm Meany prevoiusly on the thread as well as Kenneth Branagh, these are two actors who would fit the roles excellently, although my enthusiasm foreither of them possibly playing Bilbo doesn't really correspond with what I said earliar about young actors. Whoever plays Bilbo needs to have some resemblance of Holms features, Bilbo doesn't look old enough in the LotR to be wrinkled beyond recognition.
I just Hope Jackson and Del Toro make the right choice, which I'm sure they will
Mr. Bandobras Took
Sorry Just looking through I have seen someone mention Jack Black, much as I love Black I think he's completely wrong for the role if you guys were even being serious, the same goes for Simon Pegg, great actor but an actor of a completely different medium.
Mr. Bandobras Took
One of the great things about Bilbo's role in The Hobbit, is that he is quite comedic. So I'm not averse to a comedian such as Simon Pegg getting the part. The main thing is to find someone good at witty humour rather than slapstick (which is why Rowan Atkinson is NOT on my list of possibles).
Bilbo is quite middle class and set in his ways when an adventure walks right into his hobbit hole, after which he is sent off on an most uncomfortable quest during which he endures many other comedic situations, but he himself is not a comedian. I'm a little unclear what you were getting at, Ol Beard!
[quote="Odo Banks":1ridm9i6]Bilbo is quite middle class and set in his ways[/quote:1ridm9i6]
Set in his ways, yes; but Bilbo is actually a member of one of the wealthiest upper class families in the Shire.
I agree with Odo Banks here, I don't recall Bilbo cracking a single joke in the entire trilogy (You might be able to prove me wrong there
that was a risky statement, but on the other hand I'm very sure the Hobbit's not familiar with any Knock Knock jokes
) I do also agree with you Gandalf's Beard that humour (of which there is actually alot thinking about it i.e. Frodo, the Mushrooms and Maggots dogs
) in the books is on the whole witty and suggestive as opposed to slapstick (although I did notice it gently introduced in some areas in the films i.e. Gimli was quite clumsy and so were the Orcs, but I suppose that's understandable in the case of Orcs
). I do also think that Hobbits are mostly not the subjects of humour, i.e. the reader is encouraged to pity a Hobbit in a spot of bother whereas other races are expected to withstand moments of discomfort and as a result we find it funny when they complain, an example of which is when one of the dwarves in The Hobbit states his frustration after floating away to Lake Town in a barrell containing some apples, he says something like 'I'll never eat another apple as long as I live!'
Mr. Bandobras Took
P.S. Gandalf's Beard, Can you imagine Lord Blackadder as Smaug, he fits his mean character perfectly, On a slightly different note Maybe Hugh Laurie would make a fine Bilbo or any kind of Naive Hobbit, can you imagine a Wooster type character forgetting a hankerchief before setting off on adventure
, Stephen Fry might also adapt from Jeeves the Butler to Jeeves the Gardener, he could be Sam's Gaffer
Jokes, it would obviously be terrible, just pretend I didn't say anything
Um Hi Eldorian, I just want to ask you what you meant by saying
[quote="Eldorion":up1i0hn0] Set in his ways, yes; but Bilbo is actually a member of one of the wealthiest upper class families in the Shire.[/quote:up1i0hn0]
could you expand a little?
Yes, right again of course, Eldorion, though the Shire don't have an upper class as such, but I do take your point. The funny thing about Bilbo is that he goes off and does things no respectable well to do Hobbit should do. That's where a fair bit of the comedy lies. Old Bilbo himself is not comedic and so we definitely can do without any clowns playing him. The more straight laced he is (at least to begin with) the better.
I'm confident you agree with me, Eldorion. This dissertation is really for GB's benefit, you see. Oh don't we cringe to hear his Liberal philosophies! And what of his natural predilection for accepting endless 'adaptions', no matter how wrong headed they are, irrespective of the distress these 'adaptations' cause true lovers of Tolkien's vision? GB can't help it. He's a well-intended Beard, I'm sure. That's why I'm always ready to forgive him his liberal ways!
Perhaps Comical would have been a better choice of words to describe Bilbo's persona--or rather his reactions to the events he is thrust into. And he does display a Singular Wit, particularly in his conversations with Gollum and Smaug. I certainly didn't mean to suggest that he was a "comedian" in the modern sense, but rather in the Shakespearean sense
Actually, Bullroarer, given Hugh Laurie's role on House, I could see HIM as Smaug.
Well, Laurie's character in House isn't a villain. But he's a Genius Doctor with a lot of Nasty and Sneery Sarcastic Wit. Perfect for Smaug. You can find past episodes online.
Thankyou, I'll check him out
As for Stephen Fry, I think he's taking it easy these days, he was a guest on BBC's [i:2p9novh0]One Show[/i:2p9novh0] recently and he's been on a progrmme driving through the all states in America fairly recently too, it was very good.
Fry would be a good Bilbo, wouldn't he.
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":2vu6032b]Fry would be a good Bilbo, wouldn't he.
If he was 2feet shorter. Think they would have to go with a short actor, would save on time and money. any one watch top gear, one of the presenters in it is a dead ringer for a hobbit, but cant think of his name.
[quote="Bullroarer":1xfoze3x]could you expand a little?[/quote:1xfoze3x]
The Bagginses were one of the wealthier and more respected families of the Shire (I'm not sure how old they were though). They had a considerable hole - a mansion, essentially - and were the most publicly recognizable hobbits in the area of Hobbiton. They were part of the mass of inter-related hobbit families, including the Tooks and Brandybucks, holders of official positions, that spanned the Shire. The family trees in Appendix C to [i:1xfoze3x]The Lord of the Rings[/i:1xfoze3x] show some of these relations.
This is not to say that hobbits had a caste system or anything so formal, but I think they certainly had a class system, as do/did just about all societies (both in Middle-earth and in the real world).
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":3uoqlu7c]Fry would be a good Bilbo, wouldn't he.[/quote:3uoqlu7c]
I agree. Much better Bilbo than a dwarf for him, I think.
[quote="chris63":3uoqlu7c]If he was 2feet shorter. Think they would have to go with a short actor, would save on time and money.[/quote:3uoqlu7c]
I doubt time and money will be an issue for [i:3uoqlu7c]The Hobbit[/i:3uoqlu7c]; it's essentially a guaranteed success because of LOTR unless they are absolutely horrendous, but I'm sure the studios, not to mention the filmmakers themselves want the films to stand up favorably to LOTR. LOTR will be a double-edged sword, it will bring in huge crowds but people will be judging the new films by the standard set by the old.
Also, the filmmakers were able to use all sorts of tricks such as forced perspective to achieve perceived differences in height fairly easily. John Rhys-Davies (Gimli) generally appeared rather dwarfish compared to the others, but he is actually over six feet tall.
[quote="chris63":34keqpyw]any one watch top gear, one of the presenters in it is a dead ringer for a hobbit, but cant think of his name.[/quote:34keqpyw]
I am going to assume you mean the short guy, Richard Hammond. I must admit I fail to see the hobbityness apart from the lack of height. He also doesnt really have any evidence of acting skill, or even a particularly prominant wit, to work from. So I would have to say no to that one. Also I suspect he wouldnt want to give up his gig on top gear to act in a film, unless ofc he is actively trying to break into acting.
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Thank you Eldorian, but what I meant to say is, what was the connection you made between Bilbo's wealthiness (EDIT) and the way he is stuck in his ways. Thatís what I meant to ask you to explain
, and you're totally right about The Hobbit, it's going to be a very good quality film whether its in a style we all like or not.
Btw Chris63 I'm beginning to think Fry would be more suited to the BFG now I've thought about it
Concerning Top Gear You mean Richard Hammond surely, he's tiny compared to Jeremy
, although thinking about they all have Hobbit qualities, Jeremy's got curly hair
, Richard's Tiny and James is very laidback