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I agree with you lad!!!
and as emma has already said... she doesn't want to be an actress yes! so forget her as Itaril guys...
I believe the cast to be one, if not the most, important thing for TH, even above the LOtRized vs Fairy Tale delivery...
In LOtR , PJ got most of the actors to materialize the idea I had of them, I've been reading the book for 30 years now.
All of them just great.
even, Elijah Wood and Orlando Bloom and Liv Tyler, did very well.
On the down side, I didn't like:
Marton Csokas as Celeborn and Miranda Otto as Eowyn
and the only one I strongly dislike was David Wenham as Faramir.
That said, I just hope that no super known actor like Tobey Maguire plays Bilbo (Though I'd choose Tobey if he wouldn't have played Spiderman ).
Jason Isaacs as Thranduil would be great...and Olivia Wilde (Thirteen on Dr House) looks "elvish" in my mind, for that role of the elven female...
Welcome to the forum.
I agree for most the part that the LotR cast were great. Even when I didn't like the characters, it was primarily due to the writing rather than the actor. However:
[quote:c75p3886]even, Elijah Wood and Orlando Bloom and Liv Tyler, did very well.[/quote:c75p3886]
I thought Orlando Bloom was okay given the writing (I can't blame him for having to say "A diversion", but I didn't like Elijah Wood or Liv Tyler (and yes, I know she's hot, but that doesn't make her a good actress anymore than it does for Megan Fox). Both Wood and Tyler were very wooden and unexpressive, and that really ruined their performances for me. I have no idea if they're able to act in other movies, but for EW especially it was painful to watch the unchanging facial expressions, especially with PJ's fondness for facial close-ups.
[quote:c75p3886]On the down side, I didn't like:
Marton Csokas as Celeborn and Miranda Otto as Eowyn
and the only one I strongly dislike was David Wenham as Faramir.[/quote:c75p3886]
Celeborn was ... underwhelming, to say the least. I thought Otto and Wenham did alright though considering the material they were given to work with.
And welcome to the forum indeed Von Salza . I agree, Olivia Wilde would be an awesome Elf Lass too.
Elijah Wood was great at taking a wide range of facial expressions, but not at changing them within a scene. I was shocked at just how pronounced it was when I rewatced FOTR lately: his face [i:1stt2wa2]did not change[/i:1stt2wa2] and he just stared at people. This was especially noticeable in the scenes with the Ring and Bilbo in Rivendell and Boromir on the mountain.
Liv Tyler wasn't as bad, and it may just have been an 'Elfy' sereneness and distance.
[quote:1stt2wa2]he was just as I always imagined Frodo.[/quote:1stt2wa2]
I thought he was way too young. EW was about 18 years old, and Frodo was physically ~33.
[quote:1stt2wa2]And Liv was more than hot, she WAS Arwen.[/quote:1stt2wa2]
Could you explain?
[quote:1stt2wa2]Bloom was more than Okay, Legolas was his best role to date.[/quote:1stt2wa2]
I liked him better as Will Turner in PotC: TCotBP
The only problem I had really was with the very first scene with Aragorn, which was poor because of the Shield-maid angle, I think, not so much her acting. And the ford scene was just plain silly and melodramatic - for she hardly knew the hobbit!!! Some of the writing for her later was not great either, but for all that she played the role [i:216y1aw2]beautifully [/i:216y1aw2](and beautifully in more ways than one ).
Oh Eldo, you have the eyes of a cave-bat and the soul of a pitch-fork! (I hadn't noticed before! )
[quote="Eldorion":216y1aw2] And Liv was more than hot, she WAS Arwen.
Could you explain?[/quote:216y1aw2]
My goodness, you're possibly thicker than two slabs of concrete stuck together with a thicker than usual layer of gloopy cement, Eldo! (I mean it kindly, of course....)
Seriously couldnt fault anyone
Her parents and everyone she grew up knowing, in fact everyone she ever met before being cast in LotR, might be rather puzzled about that. /sarcasm In any event I surmise that you do not mean this literally, but I'm not sure what you mean by it. I could hazard a guess or two, but I'd rather not if I don't have to.
NB Would you like me to get GB to draw you a picture? (I'm not much of an artist myself. Mine would have to be all stick figures, I'm afraid )
Edit: And please don't roll your eyes! It's very childish!
But I think Elijah Wood was awful...because of his bad acting I hate frodo character...someone said that David Wenham was bad...NO!!!!
I loved him so much...he wasn't very handsome but he played his role very good!!and Liv Tyler was nice but...she was...I don't know the English word for that
Olivia Wilde is GREAT!!!yup...she is sooooooooo NICE...I should talk to Mr.Deltoro about her... you know...I always give him my advises...
Olivia can be a good elf...she can be Itaril!
The word I think you're seeking Lady Greenleaf is [i:1zhwbg0y]"scrumptious"[/i:1zhwbg0y]!
I didn't say David Wenham performed badly or is a bad actor, I just don't like him as Faramir...
In the book I prefer Faramir over Boromir, in fact Faramir is one of my favorite Tolkien characters, but in the movie David pales when compared to Sean Bean and John Noble.
Sean Bean and Sean Astin deliver IMO the most accomplished performances in LOtR...
Anyway, glad we agree on Olivia...
The word I think you're seeking Lady Greenleaf is [i:kfvhbf6h]"scrumptious"[/i:kfvhbf6h]! [/quote:kfvhbf6h]
No...I meant very romantic that made me sick...aughhhhhhhhh and very slow and...
To VonSalza :
Ok..I've got it!
Have you guys heard anything about Richard Armitage as Thranduil? if you visit "the one ring" website you can see the list...
I think he's too young!
Isaacs for Thranduil, we need someone at Hugo Weaving's level...
We seem to agree about a lot in this thread.
I agree, especially for Sean Bean. I would list Ian McKellen as well except that I only really liked him in FotR; after he became the White I wasn't as fond of the actor or the character.
I think he's too young![/quote:ho7eh6ta]
I can't find this list on TORn, but I looked him up on IMDb and I agree. I still want Isaacs.
I've lurking for a while now, so you all seem very familiar, as are the treads, I red most of them...
Things have been to the slow side at work, so I had the time to post something coherent, or so I hope...
We seem to agree about a lot in this thread. [/quote:2ywzspw6]
yes...I agree with you again...
my regards guys!
I really hope Itaril (sp?) is just a rumour especially if they cut characters like Beorn. Why introduce new characters? Why fix it if its not broken? Im a female and I don't care if there is no femine element in the hobbit! Are they so worried about offending feminists or what..? Blah...
Btw a walking tree was sighted in the Shire once. An Entwife, pray tell? Was that what Tolkien was hinting at?*
(*See my The Hobwit on Fanfic site. It's all there revealed!** No cats mentioned though...)
(**Am I [i:57wszh04]Spamming[/i:57wszh04] here, GB? )
(Btw, there is an Australian kid's book called [i:jjyq7wri]The Muddle Headed Wombat [/i:jjyq7wri]in which there is a cat whose favorite [i:jjyq7wri]fruit[/i:jjyq7wri] is fish! Try it, Eldo. I think you'll especially love the cat! The book's humor is not outrageously in your face, but it certainly tickles the funny bone a lot! At least, it did mine!)
is every thing ok???during these years I was thinking about Ralph...thing... I mean voldemort...
what about him as Thranduil???? I think he is a good choice too...
but arent there ment to be 13 dwarvs in the hobbit, most people have only put 4 or 5
am i just going mad??