Thread: How should Smaug look
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Also I have always felt that Smaug is evil, no offense to Tolkien but his main bad guys were normally genericly evil. Thats not to say other characters didnt have varying motives, plans and political positions. But the big bad guys i.e. Sauron and Morgoth were both in a position of "I want to rule the world, muahhahaha fear my huge armies of horific beasties". And as Smaug is a creation of Morgoth, as much as any Orc, Troll or Balrog, I would say that places him firmly in the intrinsically evil camp.
We could ofc argue that with out a master Smaug is free to do what ever he pleases, but it would appear Sauron was very confident he would be able to sway Smaug onto his side, and Sauron is not normally a blind fool who assumes he will always get his way.
Wither way I am interested to see how they tackle the colour. As he is said to be golden and red, so will we end up with a kind of pearlescent smaug that changes colour dependant on the angle, or will he have areas of red and areas of gold? Or maybe a kind of burnished gold colour all over.
I think you are both essentially saying the same thing Odo and Elledan, that EVIL is boring. No fear, DT won't let us down. Ady just posted part of a new interview with Del Toro on the subject on his blog.
Some good news, Warg fans. In that interview DT says Wargs will be Wolves, not Hyenas on Steroids . So I think Del Toro is listening to us .
On the subject of Smaug, I hope Del Toro and the film crew keep to (as well as they can) Tolkiens descriptions of him. I like your Old and Sinuous Smaug suggestions Odo , considering he's hundreds of years old, we don't want a baby faced Smaug , (can you imagine the audiences response at the cinema after them seeing Movie Smaug for the first time, if our movie expectations aren't as we hoped? `Bilbo made his way down the passage, he could feel the fiery breath on his face, when he was suddenly confronted with... the most adorable dragon he'd ever seen!' followed by a big 'awwww...he's so cute' from the audience!)
Seriously though I'm sure Smaug will look great, one feature I hope the production team will add, and one I imagined whilst reading, is whilst Smaug in sleeping, I'm hoping his breathing will tie in with his fire breath, i.e. When he breaths out through his nose, wispy smoke should recede from his nostrils. Fairly obvious one really but essential in some respects, he's got to feel right.
It's cool that Del Toro is of the same mind as us on Smaug. I have a great feeling about this.
Btw I'm thinking of starting a new profile, Thinking about the word 'B'arelyn', it's a bit confusing so look out for the new Joseph Dwarf I'm about to make.
However, all shape aside, I want Smaug to "look" like the dragon as portrayed in the story. The reason why the not-at-all canon appearance Smaug worked in the Rankin-Bass film, was that the film depicted Smaug's personality very well. (It was this version of Smaug that persuaded my parents to get a copy of [i:1uknlqi9]The Hobbit[/i:1uknlqi9] for me from the library. So I really ought not complain!) Smaug should look smug, vain, casually cruel, rapacious, in repose. In action, he should look like the four horsemen in one scaly package. Let that be done, and I will overlook any physical divergence from the source.
I was just looking over the threads, and I would like to put in my two cents about the color. I do not know how you pull off [color=#FF8040:3abvr51o]"Golden Red" [/color:3abvr51o]unless there is a mood driven color aspect. Maybe at rest Smaug is more [color=#FFBF00:3abvr51o]golden.[/color:3abvr51o] As he gets riled up he becomes a [color=#FF0000:3abvr51o]reddish[/color:3abvr51o] hue. I know that this type of color changing was not in the book, but I can see Hollywood doing that as a way to make sure you know what an evil ,mean-spirted, and cruel scaly flying villian would look like when it's angry. Any thoughts?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see them use the drawings of Tolkien, but, by their own admission, they ARE looking to make the most spectacular Dragon ever on screen. And that means they are going to do something completely different. It WILL be spectacular imo, but not what Tolkien had sketched out.
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