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What should the First Scene of the First Movie be? Should there be a Prologue or a Voice-over of any kind?
Errm...you do know they've already written the script...right? :?

Still, I suppose suggestions are in order as they might rewrite a few scenes along the way :roll: . I'll be back later with a few of my own <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> .

[b:2t6ueyng]GB[/b:2t6ueyng]
I think we should have Bilbo sitting outside his hobbit hole puffing on his pipe and opening his letters, with Samwise (with Grandad voice) beginning: "In a hole in a ground there lived a hobbit...." as the figure of Gandalf begins his ascent of The Hill. By the time Samwise gets to the bit (in the actual text) where Gandalf arrives - then their meeting occurs. This way we can use the [i:pftexel1][b:pftexel1]actual text[/b:pftexel1][/i:pftexel1] of Tolkien to introduce the story, right up to Gandalf arriving at Bilbo's door. This way the Purists will be happy - and the Liberals will see just how easily a brilliant story can be adapted - and Newcomers will just be so impressed that they'll run off and READ the book as soon as they can!!! Perfect outcome, what! <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
We can give our own opinions even knowing full well that the film-makers won't heed them. <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />

I would start in the Shire, perhaps similarly to immediate post-Prologue scenes in the [i:2e96jzpw]FotR[/i:2e96jzpw] films, establishing why it is nice and why Bilbo likes it. Since we'll be going to the cinema to see a classic adventure story most of us will sympathize with Bilbo's Tookish side, so a demonstration of why the Bagginsish side will be so homesick is an order, I think. I don't think a Prologue is necessary since they could show Smaug, Thror, etc. via flashback/cutaway during the Un-expected Party (like how they showed Gandalf's escape from Orthanc in [i:2e96jzpw]FotR[/i:2e96jzpw]), and including a Prologue [i:2e96jzpw]and[/i:2e96jzpw] the exposition-filled Party scene could get redundant.
I think I said this before elsewhere but I believe they will open with the story of Thorin's family. Show the Lonely Mountain in it glory days and then the coming of the dragon and the escape of the families of each of the dwarves- or at least the main ones. Gives them a fiery exploding intro to the film and immediately sets out who the bad guy in this is (or should be but won't be now Smaug's going to be overshadowed by Sauron and the White Council).
From there to the cover of a book, 'there and back again' by Bilbo Baggins being picked up and opened and Ian Holm reading the open lines of the book.
Oh God! I hope not, Mr Tyrant! Why can't we find out about Smaug when Bilbo finds out, Mr Tyrant? That would be the place to find out what Bilbo might be getting dragged into... wouldn't it, Mr Tyrant? Fine cinema - a building up of the excitement? It won't happen though, will it, Mr Tyrant... Of course it won't! :cry: :cry: :cry:
That, sadly, Odo is the better of my two contenders- the other would be an opening centring around the Necromancer and the Ring, possibly even having a 'hunt for gollum' that leads to Gollum taking refuge in the Misty Mountains- surely not even the Coven would do such a thing though- would they?
.... nightmares, Mr Tyrant - I'm having nightmares now!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Yeah I think you need to wait on revealing Smaug, however, I do think that starting the movie with Thorin's family and the glory of Erebor and Dale is important. For the part when Smaug arrives he should remain hidden and all we should be able to see is fire and screaming dwarves. Introduce the Menace of Smaug without revealing him, save that for when Bilbo first sees him. This would give the movie some grand context and then jump right into Bilbo and the shire. I think the narration from the original text would be perfect for the lead up to Gandalf speaking to Bilbo, the first line of dialogue being Bilbo saying, "Good Morning." Just an idea
Even if they do begin with a Smaug scene, he would likely be hidden in smoke and shadow to save him for the big Reveal.

[b:307j3w59]GB[/b:307j3w59]
[quote="Fingolfin":33f9nhz7]Yeah I think you need to wait on revealing Smaug, however, I do think that starting the movie with Thorin's family and the glory of Erebor and Dale is important. For the part when Smaug arrives he should remain hidden and all we should be able to see is fire and screaming dwarves. Introduce the Menace of Smaug without revealing him, save that for when Bilbo first sees him. This would give the movie some grand context and then jump right into Bilbo and the shire.[/quote:33f9nhz7]

Oh Sweet Lord! NOOOOOOOOOOO!

[quote="Fingolfin":33f9nhz7]I think the narration from the original text would be perfect for the lead up to Gandalf speaking to Bilbo, the first line of dialogue being Bilbo saying, "Good Morning." Just an idea[/quote:33f9nhz7]

Oh Sweet Lord - Sweetest REASON at last!!!!!

You seem a good lad, Fingolfin, but please don't get sucked into the Liberal web... Please don't!
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":15i7esjf]Even if they do begin with a Smaug scene, he would likely be hidden in smoke and shadow to save him for the big Reveal.[/quote:15i7esjf]

I think you should keep your big Reveal to yourself, GB. How vulgar you sound! :shock:

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Don't we keep saying it, Mr Tyrant: Liberals! Vulgarites! Wrongheadedders!

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You should know me better than that by now, Odo. A pre-credit prologue could have a Smaug Scene, but should be followed immediately after the credits by the Real Beginning--with Bilbo narrating HIS tale to his nieces and nephews (possibly including Frodo, word for word from the book :P . As Bilbo narrates we see the scenes unfolding before us.

[b:1hrvmx5m]GB[/b:1hrvmx5m]
Fudge all you like! I'm sending you to Coventry. You know why! (Yep! This is getting serious!!! :x :x :x )