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I re read Of " The Rings Of Power " final chapter of The Silmarilion the other day and realised that there are enough quotes and info within for PJ to mine, as well as info in the Apendices of TLOTR to basically build a huge amount of the back story for The Hoobit film part one. I'm amazed at the amout of info crammed into this chapter and a lot of back story and set up for the TLOTR is within. I for one am hoping that a lot of this info, including the Necromancer, The darkening of Mirkwood, The formation of The White Council, The appearance of The Nazgul, The losing and Finding of the One Ring and the other Rings of Power as well as the slow decline of The surviving Numenoreans which would lead fabulously into The Hobbit proper. The way CT has edited this back history is amazing and for those who have trouble reading The Sil will find it much more accessible than the previous chapters. I'm interested in your thoughts on this and I'm hoping that PJ and Co have intact used this framework in the making of the new trilogy.

Jackson does not have the legal right to mine Of The Rings Of Power And The Third Age for his films.

Rights to The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings were sold, but no rights were sold for anything edited and published by Christopher Tolkien.

Well then Galin, that can only mean one thing, PJ will need to make things up, which is a shame indeed.

Anyhow a lot of what is told in Of Rings of Power is actually mentioned within either The Hobbit or TLOTRs so hopefully that will be enough to keep some of us happy.

I, too, cherish Of the Rings of Power.  The Second Age of Middle-earth is so intense for me, perhaps all the more because there is less developed text on it.  The Third Age is what we have closest, with Aragorn Elessar and the long-awaited delivery and restoration. But I think the enormity of this can best be felt when we are carrying the full weight not only of the post-Numenorean saga, but also the thousands of years prior.  Akallabeth tells much of Numenor, also the tale of Erendis and Aldarion and other texts from Unfinished Tales, but what about "meanwhile, back in Middle-earth..."?

These centuries of Sauron's rise and the slow realization of what was really going on, the great smiths of   Eregion, the long migration of Galadriel and Celeborn, the stories of the Edain that didn't go to the Land of the Star...  

Of the Rings of Power gives us glimpses of all this, wonderful. 

Yes Marghana and each time we read it it seems to grow somehow.  Its a brief chapter and sums up the true breadth of Frodo's mission beautifully.  Also Gandalf and Elrond have some fabulous dialog along with a Saruman, who starts to see cracks in his plan and you can feel the tension, or at least I can, between the two Istari, who must have very different foresight.  Elrond comes off as the most wise in my mind in this chapter in more ways than one.

There is simply so much crammed into this chapter and its so readable, I think its my favorite part of the Silmarilion.

Re legals and all that awful stuff Galin.  As most of what is mentioned in this last chapter is referenced throughout The Hobbit and The Lord Of The Rings in some way, Im sure that PJ will find a way of working this back history into the new movies.  Its a shame he wont be able to use direct quotes though as some of them are simply wondrous.

"Now the Shadow grew ever greater, and the hearts of Elrond and Mithrandir darkened. Therefore on a time Mithrandir at great peril went again to Dol Guldur and the pits of the Sorcerer, and he discovered the truth of his fears, and escaped. And returning to Elrond he said: 'True, alas, is our guess. This is not one of the Úlairi, as many have long supposed. It is Sauron himself who has taken shape again and now grows apace...' And Elrond answered: 'In the hour that Isildur took the Ring and would not surrender it, this doom was wrought, that Sauron should return."

"..naught was done at that time, though Elrond's heart misgave him, and he said to Mithrandir: 'Nonetheless I forebode that the One will yet be found, and then war will arise again, and in that war this Age will be ended. Indeed in a second darkness it will end, unless some strange chance deliver us that my eyes cannot see."

I love these quotes, and many more.