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Allyssa
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
Tolkien's sense of humour is very subtle. Some miss it all together.

Agagorn is even funny sometimes, like when he is chasing the orcs in Rohan. At one stage he throws himself on the ground and sleeps flat on his back with mouth open I think...quite a funny image for the austere ranger.

I thought some of Merry's chatter with Theoden was quite amusing. Especially whan Gandalf warns the king of "his peril.." that Hobbits can talk people to death...or almost.

I loved Tolkien's sense of humour. Delightlfully refreshing.
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Swampfaye
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
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I thought I loved Tolkien's sense of humour. Delightlfully refreshing.


If you like "subtle" humor.. (Which I find appeals to many Europeans). I found the humor in LOTR to be seriously lacking. I prefer the Stephen Wright type of humor "I returned to my apartment to find that everything had been stolen and replaced with an exact dulpicate..."
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Grondmaster
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
When I need humor in my fantasy literature, I read Diskworld novels. Terry Pratchett is anything, but subtle. Pratchett's humor usually results in a full fledged guffaw, while Tolkien's only draws the occasional smile. Smile Smilie
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Allyssa
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
If you like "subtle" humor.. (Which I find appeals to many Europeans).


Swampfaye, I am not European. Quite a long way from it actually.....[Edited on 1/2/2002 by Allyssa]
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Swampfaye
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
I didn't say subtle humor *only* appealed to Europeans... but in any case maybe you would like "The Colour of Magic" quite funny, but you have to be an adult to really appreciate most of the humor (in sewer ants) .
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PlasticSquirrel
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
I like my humour as subtle as a rusty chainsaw, so Tolk rarely makes me laugh out loud, perhaps a smirk here and there, but rarely where it's supposed to be. Wink Smilie
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TomBombadillo
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
I like Tolkien's humour as well. Refreshing, as sb said, it is indeed. It's there when you need it... Smile Smilie
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Sam
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
Oh yeah..again late... Big Smile Smilie

I like Tolkienīs humour too...itīs very refreshing.

Yes...and Iīm not an European...Iīm from Finland and I canīt compare a Finn and European...itīs impossible. We are so different from other Europeans in here Finland and other Northern countries...Our culture is so different, our kitchen and "drink"-culture..(or what it is?) Everything is different here...our language isnīt german...(but it is german in other northern countries...) And donīt forget SAUNA...have you ever been in sauna?? THAT is very refreshing...you must test it once..come here to Finland....This is The Land Of Lakes... Smile Smilie
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Boring
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
rrrrrrrrrrr ok if we are going to say things like that no one really is a European except for the germans? Coz I'm dutch and you cant (well actually you can it's quite easy to see the difference) compare me with Germans Smile Smilie

and the brits aren't europeans baceause they are on an island and think they are driving on the right side of the road Smile Smilie

and the french aren't european because they only know how to speak french and for gods sake they eat snails..... yuk...

etc etc....

But htere's actually humor in tolkien? wow must have missed it or forgotten Smile Smilie

but for terry pratchet It's great Smile Smilie but I think I would like it even more when my english is better, which- i hope- it will be someday
as for "in sewer ants" thats wasn't a hard one was it?


[Edited on 25/7/2002 by Boring]
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Rosie_Cotton
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
You're quite right we brits definitely aren't european and we DO drive on the right side of the road!!!! Mad Smilie.... Wink Smilie It's just the rest of the world who drive on the wrong side

Anyway... I love Tolkiens humour especially in the hobbit, if yuo read the books out loud Bilbo really is the most amusing character and the interaction with him and Gandalf is delightful.
"to think I'd live to be greeted by Belladnna Took's son as if I was selling buttons at the door" (or something like that) but that's definitely where the humour is in Tolkien.
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TomBombadillo
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
Oh yeah I'd forgotten about that line! Big Laugh Smilie

And there's more: when Gandalf says to Frodo: "If you don't let me in, Frodo" and the curdled milk and stuff. And there are other great lines which I forgot just now.
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Faramirsgirl
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
I also think there are a lot of parts in LotR that are funny. Like the whole orc-slaughtering competition with Legolas and Gimli, and when Sam bursts in on the Council of Elrond, as well as many comments by Merry and Pippin
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some of Merry's chatter with Theoden
, love that! And the interaction between Gandalf and Pippin in the 3rd book. Big Laugh Smilie
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Grondmaster
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Posted Thursday 1st January 1970 (12:00am)
Moderator Smilie I deleted Amarië and my last posts as they were too political in nature and had nothing to do with the topic which has to do with humour in Lord of the Rings the movie and our hopes that PJ keeps Sam's funny lines in Return of the King. Moderator Smilie
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Deathmc
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Posted Tuesday 6th January 2004 (09:18pm)
Maybe the humor in LotR is too subtile for me, but I didn't find it that humorous. Ok, an occasional smile. Maybe the jokes didn't come quite well through the translation. I've read them in dutch because I have not yet been able to lay my hands on an english version (for free, since I borrowed a second print of Lord of the Rings (dutch) from my granddad).

As for Terry Pratchett's DiscWorld Novels. I have laughed out loud because of some of those jokes.
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Grondmaster
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Posted Wednesday 7th January 2004 (12:33am)
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Maybe the humor in LotR is too subtile for me, but I didn't find it that humorous. Ok, an occasional smile. Maybe the jokes didn't come quite well through the translation. I've read them in dutch because I have not yet been able to lay my hands on an english version (for free, since I borrowed a second print of Lord of the Rings (dutch) from my granddad).

As for Terry Pratchett's DiscWorld Novels. I have laughed out loud because of some of those jokes.
Okay, the humor isn't plentiful but once in a while it is there, and that humor can not be compared with TP's DiscWorld books where there is usually a laugh per page.
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PlasticSquirrel
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Posted Tuesday 20th January 2004 (03:42pm)
Except for Monstrous Regiment, where you get sa couple of smiles in the whole book, BOOO!!!!
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Grondmaster
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Posted Friday 30th January 2004 (11:51pm)
This morning on Seattle's NPR station, KUOW-FM 94.9Mhz, (www.KUOW.org )Weekday call-in program, they talked about the Academy Award Nominations and those who should have received them, but didn't. Sean Astin's Sam received the most votes out of any catagory for Best Supporting Actor with 11 votes and with Andy Serkis' Gollum not too far back with about 3. Of course this was just the sense of listeners who called in or emailed during the one hour show, but it means there are a lot of fans out there in radio land too.
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Gnampie
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Posted Thursday 19th February 2004 (02:13pm)
I think Sean Astin did a wonderful job with Sam. Sam is a very emotional and simple character and it must be difficult trying to show this and not make the character foolish or turn it into a joke. (if Plastic ever reads this, I can guess his reply Ha Ha Ha Smilie )
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PlasticSquirrel
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Posted Monday 10th May 2004 (11:41am)
Would it go something like this Gnamps?

Sam is both simple and foolish, and PJ has managed to make him look like the Oaf he is, good one Pete! Thanks a lot.
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Valedhelgwath
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Posted Monday 10th May 2004 (11:55pm)
If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times, Plastic, "Stop disrupting the class!" Wink Smilie

Nice to see you're still around, mate. I take it life is treating you well?
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Virumor
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Posted Tuesday 11th May 2004 (01:15pm)
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Sam is both simple and foolish, and PJ has managed to make him look like the Oaf he is, good one Pete! Thanks a lot.

But PJ made him 5 times as fat as in the books. Even in the end at Mount Bloom he's as fat as in the beginning of the movies.
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HobbitHomie05
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Posted Tuesday 11th May 2004 (01:50pm)
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I think you guys are crazy to start an argument with the big V!! He always wins!! and if he doesn't he keeps going!! Just kidding!! I like watching people talk to virumor about the movies!! haha!! no offense virumor!! I'm still on your good side right?

I have to go to school now bye!!
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PlasticSquirrel
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Posted Wednesday 12th May 2004 (10:53am)
Not too shabby Val, could be worse mate.

And I haven't argued with Vir in a while, but it's a hard habit to break....
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Vindea ristare
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Posted Sunday 23rd May 2004 (07:06pm)
ARGUMENTS ROCK! lol jk jk
Tell me if anybody shares my opinion... Sam is probably the real hero in the books. There were many times that Sam was an encouragement to Frodo, or gave up his food for Frodo, or did something else that was really kind. I think that without Sam, Frodo would've been captured by the wraiths, given the ring to Gollum (or had it stolen by him), or just plain died out there by himself.
Sam was no fat oaf and I think he isn't given the respect he deserves, but i respect you pplz opinions if you disagree.
Peace, ya'll>>> Tigger Smilie
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