Having finished the Forum early today, I went looking for info concerning the long proposed movie of 'The Hobbit'. I couldn't find anything newer than from August 2007.
New Line still holds the rights, but it looks like they must get moving with a 2009 release deadline or lose those rights.
New Line has been quietly negotiating behind the scenes trying to hire Peter Jackson, who is still holding out pending payment of money he says New Line still owes him for the LOTR film trilogy.
Ian McKellen was still interested in doing the role of Gandalf.
Thread: Hobbit Movie News
If this does not work out I shall always hold Newline responsible. It would not kill th em to pay up and if I were Peter I would have a battery of lawyers for the next contract so that I would not be shafted again. Oh I wish they would just get on with it. It is past time we all settled in and watched another journey into Middle-Earth. And even Ian does not grow younger.
On the plus sides with a film of The Hobbit they could pretty much include everything in the book. With LOTR it was simply too much to cram (anyone else see the connection with this word?) into three films.
So that should give it accuracy, lastly I just hope they have the same Gandalf and Bilbo as they did in the last film.
So that should give it accuracy, lastly I just hope they have the same Gandalf and Bilbo as they did in the last film.
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I just hope they have the same Gandalf and Bilbo as they did in the last film.
Gandalf probably, Bilbo possibly not. It might be harder to turn an elderly Sir Ian Holm into a young hobbit, he is 76 after all. Yes they did it in the Fellowship, but he didn't have many action scenes in that movie; I can't see him climbing into the treetops looking at black flutterbys or to rescue Dwarves from the spiders.I just hope they have the same Gandalf and Bilbo as they did in the last film.
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Gandalf probably, Bilbo possibly not. It might be harder to turn an elderly Sir Ian Holm into a young hobbit, he is 76 after all.
Gandalf probably, Bilbo possibly not. It might be harder to turn an elderly Sir Ian Holm into a young hobbit, he is 76 after all.
Bilbo was 50 when he embarked on the journey, and when Gandalf saw the rascal again 61 years later he noticed how he had not aged a day - hence Bilbo should not look different than in the beginning of FOTR movie.
But, indeed, the fact that 50-year old Frodo looks like a 16-year old in the film, whilst Bilbo who "didn't age a day since he was 50" looks 60-70 in FOTR movie, is ludicrous.
Of course PJ didn't care about the time and made it look like the entire War of the Ring was over in two weeks, but still it is a point that needs to be made.
I think we can say it is the 33-year old Frodo which looks like a 16-year old. None of the hobbits aged a day during the 17 years between the party and when Frodo starts his journey, it looked more like 27 days. Or less. I can't remember if they mention Frodos age at all? So from the movies' point of view, sir Ian might have a chance...
But is a 76 year young actor sprightly enough to play the part of Bilbo in The Hobbit Movie?
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But is a 76 year young actor sprightly enough to play the part of Bilbo in The Hobbit Movie?
But is a 76 year young actor sprightly enough to play the part of Bilbo in The Hobbit Movie?
Maybe so ( If he live long enough), we all what difference MAKEUP can do and I'm sure they'll use stand-in as well
Anyone here read the LOTR first (as an adult) and then read the Hobbit later? It can be a huge disappointment to those expecting more LoTR. I hope, if a Hobbit movie is made, that it's marketed properly -- to children -- and not sold to adults looking for the same kind of complex storyline as in the trilogy of films. (Believe it or not, there are plenty of movie people who haven't read any of the books!)
That last bit is true Elanorraine, we need to tell them how much they have missed by not reading the books.
I saw New Line's two High Mucky-mucks on Charlie Rose's TV program, I think it was Thursday night, and they said they still hadn't given up on Peter Jackson for The Hobbit Movie director, but that there were plenty of other directors out there who could do the story justice.
I saw New Line's two High Mucky-mucks on Charlie Rose's TV program, I think it was Thursday night, and they said they still hadn't given up on Peter Jackson for The Hobbit Movie director, but that there were plenty of other directors out there who could do the story justice.
I heard of an interview with Viggo (Aragorn) and he said that if he was asked to play the part of Aragorn in The Hobbit, he would gladly accept it without hesitation... The only way though that he would be able to be in the movie, would be to have the story be a sort of expanded prologue to the Lord of the Rings... Where Aragorn was at that time, some back bone history at the time of Bilbo's adventure...
Also, Orlando Bloom wanted the part of Thranduil, it would probably confuse, but would still let you feel like it was just the same style as LOTR, like the story would never end... If he DID get that part, then I suggest that John Rhys-Davies play the part of Gloin... Have the LOTR characters play their fathers in the prologue... Could add a twist?
Also, Orlando Bloom wanted the part of Thranduil, it would probably confuse, but would still let you feel like it was just the same style as LOTR, like the story would never end... If he DID get that part, then I suggest that John Rhys-Davies play the part of Gloin... Have the LOTR characters play their fathers in the prologue... Could add a twist?
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Where Aragorn was at that time, some back bone history at the time of Bilbo's adventure...
Where Aragorn was at that time, some back bone history at the time of Bilbo's adventure...
Hiding behind his mother's skirt: the lad was ten years old at the time.
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I heard of an interview with Viggo (Aragorn) and he said that if he was asked to play the part of Aragorn in The Hobbit, he would gladly accept it without hesitation...
I heard of an interview with Viggo (Aragorn) and he said that if he was asked to play the part of Aragorn in The Hobbit, he would gladly accept it without hesitation...
Shows how much Viggo knows about LOTR.
Get Viggo to play Thorin. Or Bombur. I can't decide which. (Just Kidding!)
Problem with The Hobbit as a movie is -- even if it is marketed properly -- how do you sort out all those dwarves? 9 companions in the fellowship, of different races, was hard enough. How many of you can sketch the characters of each dwarf, distinguishing one character from another (without going back to look at the book)? I can name them all but only a few have distinct characteristics: Thorin the leader (and oh arrogant one!), Bombur with the large appetite, dreams of feasts in Mirkwood and unwillingness to climb the steep side of the lonely mountain... Fili and Kili the youngest, kin of Thorin and cousins, and fire-starters (I think??)? and then the one I can't remember who was the lookout, whom Bilbo sneaked past. I'd be very hard pressed to flesh out dori, nori ori, oin, gloin, bifur, bofur, sleepy, grumpy, sneezy.... oh, wait, wrong story :-P
Problem with The Hobbit as a movie is -- even if it is marketed properly -- how do you sort out all those dwarves? 9 companions in the fellowship, of different races, was hard enough. How many of you can sketch the characters of each dwarf, distinguishing one character from another (without going back to look at the book)? I can name them all but only a few have distinct characteristics: Thorin the leader (and oh arrogant one!), Bombur with the large appetite, dreams of feasts in Mirkwood and unwillingness to climb the steep side of the lonely mountain... Fili and Kili the youngest, kin of Thorin and cousins, and fire-starters (I think??)? and then the one I can't remember who was the lookout, whom Bilbo sneaked past. I'd be very hard pressed to flesh out dori, nori ori, oin, gloin, bifur, bofur, sleepy, grumpy, sneezy.... oh, wait, wrong story :-P
I think we'd have to depend on the Dwarve's clothes not getting dirty enough to be able to tell when a different one was talking, but that still doesn't tell us who was who. I think Balin was the lookout and he was also the kindlier of the Dwarves towards Bilbo, and accompanied Gandalf to visit Bilbo in the Shire seven years after Bilbo's homecoming.
Danny DeVito would make a good Bombur.
For the others, it should be easy enough to find someone to portray them - every circus has a midget that is usually shot from cannons or sticks his head in the open mouth of a lion or other fun stuff, hence that should be the place to look.
For the others, it should be easy enough to find someone to portray them - every circus has a midget that is usually shot from cannons or sticks his head in the open mouth of a lion or other fun stuff, hence that should be the place to look.
So would Rob Schneider 
I know this, but I'm going with the rumour of maybe being two films, as I said before, a 'prologue'... tis a rumor only... but still have him shown as a boy in the background in the first one, then maybe a grown man in the second... Have some history like I said, 'prologue'...
If he said that, then there must be more than you or I know... Like in an interview with Sean Astin, it was said that he'd be bummed out if anyone else taken the part of Samwise, so I assume that he heard rumours of being two films or just one big prologue...
I like to keep open minded
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Hiding behind his mother's skirt: the lad was ten years old at the time.
Hiding behind his mother's skirt: the lad was ten years old at the time.
I know this, but I'm going with the rumour of maybe being two films, as I said before, a 'prologue'... tis a rumor only... but still have him shown as a boy in the background in the first one, then maybe a grown man in the second... Have some history like I said, 'prologue'...
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Shows how much Viggo knows about LOTR.
Shows how much Viggo knows about LOTR.
If he said that, then there must be more than you or I know... Like in an interview with Sean Astin, it was said that he'd be bummed out if anyone else taken the part of Samwise, so I assume that he heard rumours of being two films or just one big prologue...
I like to keep open minded
I had read that he wants to not only do The Hobbit, he wants to do a movie of the time between The Hobbit and LoTR. PJ i guess, was going to take the different stories from the appendices, Unfinished Tales, and The Silmarillion. Im not sure how that would all turn out. It seems like there are too many holes to fill.
What i wouldnt mind is maybe taking part of The Silmarillion and making that into a movie. Now i know it would be more impossible that LoTR to do, but maybe just a part of it. Maybe doing something from the time of the forging of the rings. Almost like taking the intro to The Fellowship movie and making it 3 hours.
I really dont like the idea of someone other than PJ making this movie. I read the books before the movie came out and i was very very pleased with what he did with it. It wasnt perfect but i believe he captured the essence that is LoTR. I cross my fingers that they will come to an agreement. Of course we'll all go see it...but i know i wont be as happy about it as i want to be.
What i wouldnt mind is maybe taking part of The Silmarillion and making that into a movie. Now i know it would be more impossible that LoTR to do, but maybe just a part of it. Maybe doing something from the time of the forging of the rings. Almost like taking the intro to The Fellowship movie and making it 3 hours.
I really dont like the idea of someone other than PJ making this movie. I read the books before the movie came out and i was very very pleased with what he did with it. It wasnt perfect but i believe he captured the essence that is LoTR. I cross my fingers that they will come to an agreement. Of course we'll all go see it...but i know i wont be as happy about it as i want to be.
Hard 'Hobbit' to Break: Jackson's In
By JAKE COYLE
The Associated Press
Tuesday, December 18, 2007
NEW YORK -- Bilbo lives!
After publicly feuding for more than a year, "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have reached agreement to make J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a planned two-film prequel to the blockbuster trilogy.
Jackson, who directed "Rings," will serve as executive producer for two "Hobbit" pictures. They will tell the story of how the young hobbit Bilbo Baggins originally came to possess the nefarious One Ring that Frodo, his adopted heir, needed three films to dispose of.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/18/AR2007121800690.html?nav=rss_artsandliving/entertainmentnews
By JAKE COYLE
The Associated Press
Tuesday, December 18, 2007
NEW YORK -- Bilbo lives!
After publicly feuding for more than a year, "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have reached agreement to make J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a planned two-film prequel to the blockbuster trilogy.
Jackson, who directed "Rings," will serve as executive producer for two "Hobbit" pictures. They will tell the story of how the young hobbit Bilbo Baggins originally came to possess the nefarious One Ring that Frodo, his adopted heir, needed three films to dispose of.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/18/AR2007121800690.html?nav=rss_artsandliving/entertainmentnews
Sounds great to me; though Virumor will be disappointed. 
Hehe, you saved me some time there Gandalf. I had a little spare time and was just about to go looking for an article. Thank you! I'll run along and post it on the front page. 
I'm so happy
Mwahahaha, *looks to previous post* I knew it... Thanks Gandalf 
two hobbit pictures! 
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Sounds great to me; though Virumor will be disappointed.
No, Virumor doesn't care.Sounds great to me; though Virumor will be disappointed.
What about Mir? Does she care?
I read yesterday that Peter "Gimme more money!" Jackson finally got the boot and is going to be replaced by Guillermo "Pan's Labyrinth" Del Toro.
I read that Peter Jackson has finally been let back in on the film, but is not going to be the Director. Not sure what role he is going to play in the making of the film but it said that he and New Line have finally come to an agreement.
he might be gollum 
Oh I just can't wait. I wish we could look forward to something of Tolkien every winter, for oh let's say a kazillion years. 
I cant Wait eaither omg Its goin to be sweet i want to see the battle of.... umm..... 6 ? ARMIES with the eagles and dwarves and goblins and mirkwood pikwmen!!!! i hope they make IT!!!!
That was the Battle of the Five Armies between the Men of Esgaroth, the Elves of Northern Mirkwood, the Dwarves of Erebor and the Iron Hills, all against the huge army of Orcs of the Misty Mountains and the Wargs. Not to forget the aid provided by Bilbo, Gandalf, Beorn, and the Eagles of the Misty Mountains.
I wonder if they are going to market this as a children's movie?? It has gone over so well all these years as a children's book, that's how it was published. If they get the same actors back it won't be for the same money they accepted before, so that's a consideration. I think Gerard Butler could fit in it somewhere.
Gerard would be hiding in Erebor during the movie, he'll be singing away, being The Phantom of the Mountaaaaaaiiiiiiinnnn
This is the news according to some (and at the moment) anyway...
Hopefully this is accurate at least, though I tend to doubt initial reports, especially on the web.
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Tolkien Charity Files Suit Against New Line Cinema for Failure to Pay Share of Film Revenues
LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM-- (Marketwire - Feb. 11, 2008) - The trustees of The Tolkien Trust, a British charity, have filed an action against New Line Cinema for its failure to pay a contractually required gross profit participation in the three films based on the world-famous Lord of the Rings trilogy. The trustees of the estate of JRR Tolkien and HarperCollins Publishers are co-plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit was filed today in Los Angeles Superior Court.
The Lord of the Rings films produced by New Line are among the most financially successful films ever created by Hollywood and were released in 2001, 2002 and 2003 respectively. The cumulative worldwide gross receipts to date total nearly $6 billion. Notwithstanding the overwhelming financial success of the films, and the fact that the plaintiffs have a gross participation in each of the films, New Line has failed to pay the plaintiffs any portion of the gross profit participation at all.
The trustees' UK lawyer, Steven Maier, of Manches LLP, said: "The Tolkien trustees do not file lawsuits lightly, and have tried unsuccessfully to resolve their claims out of court. But in this case, New Line has left them no option at all. New Line has not paid the plaintiffs even one penny of its contractual share of gross receipts despite the billions of dollars of gross revenue generated by these wildly successful motion pictures. To make matters worse, to date New Line has even prevented the plaintiffs from auditing the last two films of the series. The trustees are very aggrieved by New Line's arrogance."
The complaint seeks, among other things, in excess of $150 million in compensatory damages, as well as punitive damages, and a declaration from the Court that the plaintiffs have a right to terminate any further rights New Line may have to the Tolkien works under the agreements, including The Hobbit, due to the serious and material nature of the breach of the agreements.
Bonnie Eskenazi, the trustees' US counsel who filed the complaint, said, "New Line has brought new meaning to the phrase 'creative accounting.' I cannot imagine how on earth New Line will argue to a jury that these films could gross literally billions of dollars, and yet the creator's heirs, who are entitled to a share of gross receipts, don't get a penny."
JRR Tolkien is the world-renowned author of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and "The Hobbit." The Tolkien Trust is a UK registered charity that has made grants to charitable causes all over the world totaling over $8 million in the last five years alone.'
Tolkien Charity Files Suit Against New Line Cinema for Failure to Pay Share of Film Revenues
LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM-- (Marketwire - Feb. 11, 2008) - The trustees of The Tolkien Trust, a British charity, have filed an action against New Line Cinema for its failure to pay a contractually required gross profit participation in the three films based on the world-famous Lord of the Rings trilogy. The trustees of the estate of JRR Tolkien and HarperCollins Publishers are co-plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit was filed today in Los Angeles Superior Court.
The Lord of the Rings films produced by New Line are among the most financially successful films ever created by Hollywood and were released in 2001, 2002 and 2003 respectively. The cumulative worldwide gross receipts to date total nearly $6 billion. Notwithstanding the overwhelming financial success of the films, and the fact that the plaintiffs have a gross participation in each of the films, New Line has failed to pay the plaintiffs any portion of the gross profit participation at all.
The trustees' UK lawyer, Steven Maier, of Manches LLP, said: "The Tolkien trustees do not file lawsuits lightly, and have tried unsuccessfully to resolve their claims out of court. But in this case, New Line has left them no option at all. New Line has not paid the plaintiffs even one penny of its contractual share of gross receipts despite the billions of dollars of gross revenue generated by these wildly successful motion pictures. To make matters worse, to date New Line has even prevented the plaintiffs from auditing the last two films of the series. The trustees are very aggrieved by New Line's arrogance."
The complaint seeks, among other things, in excess of $150 million in compensatory damages, as well as punitive damages, and a declaration from the Court that the plaintiffs have a right to terminate any further rights New Line may have to the Tolkien works under the agreements, including The Hobbit, due to the serious and material nature of the breach of the agreements.
Bonnie Eskenazi, the trustees' US counsel who filed the complaint, said, "New Line has brought new meaning to the phrase 'creative accounting.' I cannot imagine how on earth New Line will argue to a jury that these films could gross literally billions of dollars, and yet the creator's heirs, who are entitled to a share of gross receipts, don't get a penny."
JRR Tolkien is the world-renowned author of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and "The Hobbit." The Tolkien Trust is a UK registered charity that has made grants to charitable causes all over the world totaling over $8 million in the last five years alone.'
Hopefully this is accurate at least, though I tend to doubt initial reports, especially on the web.
19 December 2007, Dominion Post, republished on stuff.co.nz
Peter Jackson will be executive producer.....
However I thought I heard that newline still had issues with this, but can't find news to back that up....Actually can that, just found one! The NZ Herald. Pretty much the same as the one posted above.
So the issue may now be the tolkien estate and newline.... Hopefully the original dates will hold, or near to, would be great to have it out in the next couple of years
Peter Jackson will be executive producer.....
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Peter Jackson has won the battle for Middle-earth and is to make The Hobbit.
The Oscar-winning Wellington film-maker and Hollywood studios New Line Cinema and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios announced today that they had resolved their legal dispute. Jackson and partner Fran Walsh will serve as executive producers on two Hobbit movies.
Pre-production will begin as soon as possible and both will be shot simultaneously, tentatively in 2009. The Hobbit is likely to be released in 2010 and the sequel in 2011.
Jackson sued New Line in 2005 for unpaid profits, estimated to be about US$100 million, from the Lord of the Rings trilogy, which became a stumbling block to his being involved in The Hobbit.
Jackson and New Line said in the announcement that they had settled all legal action. "I'm very pleased that we've been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line," Jackson said. "We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle-earth."
A decision still has to be made on who will direct the films, who will be cast and where they will be filmed.
Critics and audiences cited New Zealand's scenery - a major component in The Lord of the Rings - as one of the main reasons for the films' popularity. Equally popular were the Oscar-winning effects created by Wellington's Weta Workshop and Weta Digital.
Many websites dedicated to The Lord of the Rings have said they not only want Jackson to make The Hobbit, but that it is equally important that the Weta teams be involved.
The announcement also heralded a significant agreement between MGM - which has zealously held the rights to filming The Hobbit for many years - and New Line.
Jackson said MGM chairman and chief executive Harry Sloan helped him reach an accord with New Line.
New Line co-chairman Bob Shaye said the studio was pleased to have resolved its differences with Jackson and Walsh. "We know they will bring the same passion, care and talent to these films that they so ably accomplished with The Lord of the Rings."
Sloan said they would now focus on assembling the team to make the two films.
RING OF POWER
* The Hobbit, by JRR Tolkien, was published in 1937, and tells the story of Bilbo Baggins before the events of The Lord of the Rings. It relates how Bilbo met the wizard Gandalf, fought Smaug the dragon, and found the One Ring.
* The Lord of the Rings trilogy has made about US$3 billion at the box office and another US$1 billion in DVD sales. Between them, the films won 17 Oscars.
Peter Jackson has won the battle for Middle-earth and is to make The Hobbit.
The Oscar-winning Wellington film-maker and Hollywood studios New Line Cinema and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios announced today that they had resolved their legal dispute. Jackson and partner Fran Walsh will serve as executive producers on two Hobbit movies.
Pre-production will begin as soon as possible and both will be shot simultaneously, tentatively in 2009. The Hobbit is likely to be released in 2010 and the sequel in 2011.
Jackson sued New Line in 2005 for unpaid profits, estimated to be about US$100 million, from the Lord of the Rings trilogy, which became a stumbling block to his being involved in The Hobbit.
Jackson and New Line said in the announcement that they had settled all legal action. "I'm very pleased that we've been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line," Jackson said. "We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle-earth."
A decision still has to be made on who will direct the films, who will be cast and where they will be filmed.
Critics and audiences cited New Zealand's scenery - a major component in The Lord of the Rings - as one of the main reasons for the films' popularity. Equally popular were the Oscar-winning effects created by Wellington's Weta Workshop and Weta Digital.
Many websites dedicated to The Lord of the Rings have said they not only want Jackson to make The Hobbit, but that it is equally important that the Weta teams be involved.
The announcement also heralded a significant agreement between MGM - which has zealously held the rights to filming The Hobbit for many years - and New Line.
Jackson said MGM chairman and chief executive Harry Sloan helped him reach an accord with New Line.
New Line co-chairman Bob Shaye said the studio was pleased to have resolved its differences with Jackson and Walsh. "We know they will bring the same passion, care and talent to these films that they so ably accomplished with The Lord of the Rings."
Sloan said they would now focus on assembling the team to make the two films.
RING OF POWER
* The Hobbit, by JRR Tolkien, was published in 1937, and tells the story of Bilbo Baggins before the events of The Lord of the Rings. It relates how Bilbo met the wizard Gandalf, fought Smaug the dragon, and found the One Ring.
* The Lord of the Rings trilogy has made about US$3 billion at the box office and another US$1 billion in DVD sales. Between them, the films won 17 Oscars.
However I thought I heard that newline still had issues with this, but can't find news to back that up....Actually can that, just found one! The NZ Herald. Pretty much the same as the one posted above.
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Kiwis watched Lord of the Rings like it was our own personal "Precious" come true. But someone had been trying to get LOTR made into a film since 1957.
There were rumours the Beatles even wanted to buy the rights as a vehicle for them to star.
Producer Saul Zaentz had it in the 1970s, but the project continued its slog through "development hell" for another two decades before Peter Jackson got the rights, finally releasing his films 44 years later.
Don't buy your tickets just yet for The Hobbit either.
There are still legal fisticuffs over the billion-dollar spoils from the trilogy. Jackson fought New Line for his profits and now the Tolkien estate is suing for its 7.5 per cent.
Kiwis watched Lord of the Rings like it was our own personal "Precious" come true. But someone had been trying to get LOTR made into a film since 1957.
There were rumours the Beatles even wanted to buy the rights as a vehicle for them to star.
Producer Saul Zaentz had it in the 1970s, but the project continued its slog through "development hell" for another two decades before Peter Jackson got the rights, finally releasing his films 44 years later.
Don't buy your tickets just yet for The Hobbit either.
There are still legal fisticuffs over the billion-dollar spoils from the trilogy. Jackson fought New Line for his profits and now the Tolkien estate is suing for its 7.5 per cent.
So the issue may now be the tolkien estate and newline.... Hopefully the original dates will hold, or near to, would be great to have it out in the next couple of years
I haven't been able to learn anymore about the lawsuit between Trust and HarperCollins and New Line over unpaid profits from the LotR Triolgy. The Trust and HarperCollins appear to claim New Line has pulled the typical Hollywood practice of creative accounting, making the gross profit appear much smaller than it probably is; and they have yet to be paid anything.
I have found that negotiations with Guillermo Del Toro are still in progress towards his directing The Hobbit.
Also a bunch of head honchos at New Line are gone due to a merger with MGM, but the movie is still in the works.
I have found that negotiations with Guillermo Del Toro are still in progress towards his directing The Hobbit.
Also a bunch of head honchos at New Line are gone due to a merger with MGM, but the movie is still in the works.
I just thought that I would take this as an opportunity to voice my opinion, which is the correct one. LEAVE MY BOOKS ALONE, YOU PROFIT-HUNGRY SWINE!
I"m entirely sick of only learning that a "best-selling" book exists only because it's being made into a high-budget film with actors who, as far as I am concerned, can drop dead before I finish this sentence. Making a book into a movie just shows a complete disregard for the creator. Thousands of people who do not take the time to read a book are going to see the movie and judge it solely based on cinematography and the abilities of the actors, although neither of these things have any substantial connection to the quality of the story. It's like taking a quote out of context and expecting people to understand its' meaning. Not only do they not understand its' meaning, but they will probably judge the speaker based on the quote which they can not be bothered to try and understand.
If the movie is worth being made into a film, then what was the matter with the original presentation (book)? The author is being insulted by being "improved upon" and exploited by having his or her work remade into a format that is more "worthy" or appealing for people who did not care who the author was before some "expert" decided that, not even the author's work, but a condensed and audio-visually "enhanced" rendition of that work, was worthy of their time.
I"m entirely sick of only learning that a "best-selling" book exists only because it's being made into a high-budget film with actors who, as far as I am concerned, can drop dead before I finish this sentence. Making a book into a movie just shows a complete disregard for the creator. Thousands of people who do not take the time to read a book are going to see the movie and judge it solely based on cinematography and the abilities of the actors, although neither of these things have any substantial connection to the quality of the story. It's like taking a quote out of context and expecting people to understand its' meaning. Not only do they not understand its' meaning, but they will probably judge the speaker based on the quote which they can not be bothered to try and understand.
If the movie is worth being made into a film, then what was the matter with the original presentation (book)? The author is being insulted by being "improved upon" and exploited by having his or her work remade into a format that is more "worthy" or appealing for people who did not care who the author was before some "expert" decided that, not even the author's work, but a condensed and audio-visually "enhanced" rendition of that work, was worthy of their time.
I'd disagree with you there
The books are amazing, I don't argue there! But I don't see any problem with them being moved to different media and developed there. The audio versions are great, I have a copy sitting on my desk. My little sister had the comic version of the hobbit before she would have been able to read the book.
Some people will never read the books, there are many books in this world and we only get a limited amount of time in our lives. So a major film brings this story - which is easily strong enough to cope with different interpretations in different media - to a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't have head of/read/or been interested in it in the written form.
I just watched the FotR yet again. It's a different kind of magic from the book, but I still think I'd rather share that with all these other people than hide away with the book and deny them sharing in it at all.
The books are amazing, I don't argue there! But I don't see any problem with them being moved to different media and developed there. The audio versions are great, I have a copy sitting on my desk. My little sister had the comic version of the hobbit before she would have been able to read the book.
Some people will never read the books, there are many books in this world and we only get a limited amount of time in our lives. So a major film brings this story - which is easily strong enough to cope with different interpretations in different media - to a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't have head of/read/or been interested in it in the written form.
I just watched the FotR yet again. It's a different kind of magic from the book, but I still think I'd rather share that with all these other people than hide away with the book and deny them sharing in it at all.
Mexico's del Toro to direct "The Hobbit"
By Steve Gorman
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Mexican filmmaker Guillermo del Toro was named on Thursday to direct two movies based on the J.R.R. Tolkien book "The Hobbit" to build on the blockbuster success of "The Lord of the Rings" series.
Plans to make a two-part precursor to "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy, based on Tolkien's three-volume follow-up to his "Hobbit" story, were announced in December after settlement of a bitter legal dispute cleared the way for the project.
Del Toro, whose credits include "Pan's Labyrinth" and "Blade II," will move to New Zealand for the next four years to work on both "Hobbit" films with executive producer Peter Jackson, who directed all three "The Lord of the Rings" movies, according to New Line Cinema and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios.
The studios have said that filming will begin in 2009, with tentative release dates set of 2010 for the first film and 2011 for the sequel.
The plans call for del Toro to work back-to-back on "The Hobbit" and its sequel, which will deal with the 60-year period between that story and "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first of "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy, the studios said.
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By Steve Gorman
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Mexican filmmaker Guillermo del Toro was named on Thursday to direct two movies based on the J.R.R. Tolkien book "The Hobbit" to build on the blockbuster success of "The Lord of the Rings" series.
Plans to make a two-part precursor to "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy, based on Tolkien's three-volume follow-up to his "Hobbit" story, were announced in December after settlement of a bitter legal dispute cleared the way for the project.
Del Toro, whose credits include "Pan's Labyrinth" and "Blade II," will move to New Zealand for the next four years to work on both "Hobbit" films with executive producer Peter Jackson, who directed all three "The Lord of the Rings" movies, according to New Line Cinema and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios.
The studios have said that filming will begin in 2009, with tentative release dates set of 2010 for the first film and 2011 for the sequel.
The plans call for del Toro to work back-to-back on "The Hobbit" and its sequel, which will deal with the 60-year period between that story and "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first of "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy, the studios said.
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