About the Final Battle...

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Peredhil
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About the Final Battle...

Post#1 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Welcome to pt, Gandalf85. :D I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but I'll have a go. This is about all I know on the matter:

There will be a final battle, in which, being the Children of Illuvatar, Elves and Men are destined to fight. Dwarves really have to as well, come to think of it. The Valar will intervene as well; they must if Illuvatars eventual perfect vision of Arda is to be fulfilled. After the battle, Aulë, Yavanna and the Dwarves (probably Elves and Men too) will restore the world to its former glory. After that will come the Second Music, elevating Arda to an unparallelled level of bliss, in which Men will participate, but Elves might not, as they will all have left Middle Earth fo Aman by that time (Aman no longer being on Arda). The role of the dwarves, not being of Illuvatar, is also uncertain.

I hope that's all correct, and that it all makes sense. Anyone want to add to it?
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Aulë
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Post#2 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Yes I would like to add something Peredhil.....where does this say?
Life's a piece of sheit, when you look at it
Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true
You'll see its all a show, people laughin as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you

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Post#3 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Some of it's in the Sil, the rest I got from Val, so it can't be wrong. :cool:
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Aulë
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Post#4 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Alright....but where from the Sil?
I haven´t seen it.....
Life's a piece of sheit, when you look at it

Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true

You'll see its all a show, people laughin as you go

Just remember that the last laugh is on you

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Post#5 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Some of it's in the Sil, the rest I got from Val, so it can't be wrong. :cool:

Shut up you knee-bone, Morgoth will go for you if you dont leave Ungoliant alone :funnylaugh:

:moderator: (Grondy says keep your language clean, non-confrontational, and meaninful please!) :moderator: nn[Edited on 14/3/2003 by Grondmaster]

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Aulë
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Post#6 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Morgiliath what´s your problem? Why do you say that?
Life's a piece of sheit, when you look at it

Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true

You'll see its all a show, people laughin as you go

Just remember that the last laugh is on you

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Aulë
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Post#8 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Yes Perwing I see what you mean but you haven´t read his/her other post....And I wasn´t implying that he/she was being rude but more that he/she was using foul language which isn´t allowed here at P-T!
Life's a piece of sheit, when you look at it

Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true

You'll see its all a show, people laughin as you go

Just remember that the last laugh is on you

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Post#9 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Welcome to our forum Gandalf85. :happyelf:

I am not an expert on the Silmarillion, Valedhelgwath is the one who may be able to cite chapter and verse on the events leading up to the second music.

You also might look in the first couple of [u]Assignments[/u] of our [u]Reading Discussion Groups[/u] threads where Val has been leading our members through the Silmarillion; however, it may be from one of the twelve volumes of History of Middle-earth.




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