Gandalf & the Ring

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uruk_slayer
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Gandalf & the Ring

Post#2 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

I like the "Curiousity" theory Ringfacwen. That can also account for why Pippin was so eager to find out what the Palantir was. It's Sauron who exerts and exploits the interests of weaker minds.

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Aulë
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Gandalf & the Ring

Post#3 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Gandalfs ring was Nenya right?
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uruk_slayer
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Gandalf & the Ring

Post#4 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

It's strange, my friend and i were arguing this passage yesterday. She still thinks that Gandalf didn't in fact "touch" the ring but rather, he handled it with something else. If it's a matter of possession and handling, then it's a big difference.

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valedhelgwath
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Post#5 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

I think it's just a case of the difference between handling the ring for a short period, and being given possession of the ring.

Gandalf perhaps felt safe enough just examining the ring for this short period, believing his own strength and his love for Frodo would keep him from any harm during such a brief handling.

Offered the prospect of owning the ring, however, when the temptation over time to use it would become too great to resist, was another matter. Gandalf knew over time it would corrupt even him, and so refused guardianship of it.

I think the temptation to use the ring is also a key factor here. By examining the ring, Gandalf had no temptation to use its powers. I think it's through using these powers that the ring gains a stronger control over its wielder.

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Post#6 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Well first of all, Gandalf wasn`t sure that it was the one ring and if he has it then it can do powerful things, once he`d found that out he didn`t want to have it because of what he knew.
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McDLT
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Gandalf & the Ring

Post#7 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

The Ring has influence over people without it being in their possession and with the knowledge that Gandalf had, he was pretty sure it was the Ring, before throwing into the fire.

Gandalf also had a Ring of Power and they could feel/sense each other. (Celebrimbor was aware of him and that's why he hid the three.) So wouldn't Gandalf holding the Ring even for a brief moment be noticeable to him?

Just some more questions.
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Samwisegamgee
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Post#8 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

I think that Gandalf was more cautious than Celebrimbor and so was not revealed to Sauron. When Celebrimbor put on his Ring, he did not know of Saurons treachery so was not trying to conceal himself at all.

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Post#9 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Well, Gandalf actually KNEW that the ring was the one, as he says after throwing it in the fire, he just wanted to show it to Frodo. And he refused the ring after that because he could fell under the power of the ring and it's attraction, as (Spoiler) Saruman did.

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McDLT
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Post#10 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Well then celtavhc, then I have to ask why wasn't Gandlf affected/effected when Frodo gave it to him the first time.

I'm just wondering what your thoughts on this are. I'm just trying to justify it to myself and want as many opinions as I can get. Thanks
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