Behold!The 1 rings power

Ar-Edain
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Behold!The 1 rings power

Post#1 » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:56 pm

Behold the almighty power of the 1 ring !( sauronsays and puts on ring after obtaining it from sam or instance ) after place placin his own hand in frodos..................BUZZ!BUZZ!(get it a hand buzzer)

what was the exact power of the one ring?


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Post#2 » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:27 pm

It contains the bulk of Sauron's power and has the strength to control all other rings if worn by a weaker person then it turns them invisible, stops natural aging and eventually corrupts them into wraiths.

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Post#3 » Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:42 pm

It has the will to rejoin its true master, often resorting to insidious little tricks to lose its current bearer when said bearer fails to move it towards Mordor. It also feeds on the need of those bearing it or in its vicinity and corrupts that need. Which is why Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel wouldn't accept it and why Boromir couldn't be allowed to take it to Minas Tirith. The rings power over the hobbits was lessened because they weren't ambitious and had no greater need than six meals a day, a ha'pint of ale, a pipe full of pipeweed, and a good story to tell or listen to.
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Post#4 » Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:41 pm

Boromir is 1 of my favorite characters,if u recall he overcame the ring's corruption only minutes after it controlled him(there is no knowing how long he would have remained out of corruption though)

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Post#5 » Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:17 pm

I realize that this post is over a month old but I thought that the point the previous poster made was interesting. I have not really decided if it was the ring that corrupted Boromir or if it was Denethor and his desire for the ring and Boromir's desire to please his father that corrupted him?? But if that was the case then Faramir would have taken the ring from Frodo when he had the chance becuase Faramir was the one that I think had the desire to please his father. I am so torn on that one I thought that maybe I would see what others thought?? I am re-reading the trilogy again and I will very soon be at the part where Boromir falls to the ring. Maybe it was not the ring that corrupted him but the thought of what he percieved could be done with the ring and his desire to help his people becuase unlike Denethor I think that Boromir wanted to help his people and he thought the One Ring could do it.....I think that in the end he dies with honor but I think that his need for the ring or the power that he thought that he could get from it was too overwhelming for Boromir so he did what he did. Not sure what to think on this one yet.. Let me know what you all think....

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Vee
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Post#6 » Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:17 am



Well.... borrowing my goldfish's memory....... I don't think Boromir was corrupted as such because he never wore the ring, it just exerted it's power over him in an attempt to get back to Men. He was overcome by it's power which probably fed on his desire to not only do what his father wanted but his desire to save his people. Denethor also wished to save his people but was ultimately driven mad not by the ring but by his use of the Palantir, connecting him to Sauron, and the misinformation he was fed by Sauron. Boromir soon came to his senses and regretted what he had done. Faramir was a different kettle of fish. He had more of the strength of Westernesse in him, was a more 'rounded' character in that he had studied more, listening to Gandalf, and although a great soldier and leader he was also able to think beyond his father's wishes. The ring was unable to exert its power over him.

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Post#7 » Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:12 am

Maybe it was not the ring that corrupted him but the thought of what he percieved could be done with the ring and his desire to help his people becuase unlike Denethor I think that Boromir wanted to help his people and he thought the One Ring could do it.....I think that in the end he dies with honor but I think that his need for the ring or the power that he thought that he could get from it was too overwhelming for Boromir so he did what he did.

Indeed, Boromir wanted to save his people. As an apt warrior, he must've understood that against the armies of Mordor no victory was possible, unless the Ring would be used... that's why he wants the Ring to be used. Boromir never understood why the Ring had to be destroyed... as he saw it as the only victory and only ways of survival for his people (exactly what his father thought). At the moment he spoke in the Council of Elrond, men of his city were fighting against Mordor, including his brother, and were in dire need.

This thoughts must've crossed his mind from the very moment the Fellowship left Rivendell. The Ring was able to 'corrupt' Boromir by using Boromir's will to use the Ring : the Ring turned Boromir's will to use the Ring into desire for the Ring. Perhaps in the beginning Boromir just wanted the Ring to give to his father, but due to the influence of the Ring he had visions of himself becoming a great warlord, assembling everyone under his banner and defeating Sauron.

Probably he had visions of him becoming King as well... subconsciously, Boromir always had a hidden desire to be a King... as in the appendices we can read that he once asked Denethor why he wasn't a King or how long it would be until the ppl would consider him to be a King.

So the Ring was able to get into Boromir's mind because of Boromir's will to save his people by means of arms -even though this is impossible- and changed this will into selfish desire. Unlike Faramir, Boromir never understood that the Ring was as evil as Sauron.
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Ar-Edain
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Post#8 » Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:44 am

by the one rings power i meant what kind of magical power could it allow sauron to control.and i like your opinions on boromir,in a way where all right.(i thought this thread had been deleted,glad to see it still lives it was one of the first i created,the others were deleted)

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Post#9 » Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:39 pm

Faramir was a different kettle of fish. He had more of the strength of Westernesse in him, was a more 'rounded' character in that he had studied more, listening to Gandalf, and although a great soldier and leader he was also able to think beyond his father's wishes. The ring was unable to exert its power over him.


I agree with all but the last part of this statement. The ring most certainly could exert its power over Faramir, which is precisely why he let Frodo go. He realised that the Ring could not be used for good, and given time would ultimately bring the ruin of anyone around it. Having heard how Boromir had so quickly come under its spell, and remember Faramir knew Boromir better than any other man, he realised just how dangerous it was. Faramir always walked in Boromir's shadow, and possibly did not even realise he was a wiser man than his brother. Knowing how quickly it had corrupted Boromir must have made Faramir realise he too would have come under the same spell if he did not release it while he still had a choice.

Faramir was no less corruptable than Boromir. He had goals he wished to achieve, possibly more so than his brother, because unlike Boromir, Faramir still needed to gain the respect of his father. When he captured Frodo, however, the turning point in his decision to release the hobbits was when he discovered how Boromir had been corrupted so easily. Realising this before the Ring had had sufficient time to exert its control over him was enough for him to allow the hobbits to leave. Sometimes I feel this is perhaps the biggest difference between Faramir and Boromir, and the one thing that often gets overlooked. Faramir had the benefit of knowing what it had done to his brother. Boromir did not have such strong warnings to deter him. I think if the tables had been turned, and Boromir knew the Ring had corrupted Faramir, he too would have been far more cautious around it.

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Post#10 » Wed Jun 09, 2004 4:06 pm

It may or may not have eventually been able to tempt Faramir but it didn't. And if he let Frodo go because he knew it would then it shows it hadn't. If it had he would not have let Frodo go. He had the wisdom to do what he knew was right.

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