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PlasticSquirrel
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Post#1 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

I think that both Elijah Wood and Sean Astin just reinforced my feeling that I could kick them both for a week and not get bored :D
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gnampie
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Post#2 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

In FOTR I liked Frodo best in the beginning of the movie, when he meets Gandalf and also at his home when Gandalf explanes to him the story of the ring. There we meet a happy Frodo, full of joy and full of life. And when he asks: 'what must I do', he shows no fear but courage, responsability and perseverance. Afterwards Elijah does bring out Frodo's doubts and fear very well. But I missed his courage. Why didn't they let him defend himself against the black riders at the Weathertop? In the book Frodo attacks the black rider and that's why the knife hit him in the shoulder instead of in his heart.
I have seen a few other movies with Elijah Wood, and I think the best is yet to come. Frodo's character will be more important in the following movies. His feelings will be more extreme: weariness, dispair, but also anger when the ring is trying to controle him and wiser, self-assured and stronger. I belief Elijah Wood will do a great job expressing all those different emotions. I am really looking foreward to that part of the story.

I always felt the Gandalf in the book was a bit cold. Ian McKellen gave him more emotions in the movie (at the coulsel when Frodo says he will take the ring you see that Gandalf feels pity for him and wished there could be an other way). I liked that.

Indeed, they all did a very good job.
I can't wait to see the next part!

Ungoliant
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Post#3 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Movie Frodo was sappy, Sam was a blockhead. I'll kick 'em once you're finished, Plastic!

I didn't like McKellen - Gandalf was too emotional. I liked the cold & cross book version better.

As facial expressions go - I thought Legolas/Bloom was the best one. Didn't have much of a part, but still he did it well. I also like the introduction, when Elendil looked at Sauron, and with a resigned look, walked over to get killed. That was awesome.

swampfaye
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Post#4 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Thanks for the nod Yummy! And ignore the rodent! Elijah Wood turned me into a Frodo lover! I *detested* Frodo in the book.. all his whining *ifing and butting* and *oooh, I know elvish!* As much as Plastic wants to kick Sam that's how much I wanted to kick Frodo! But Elijah Wood was so expressive, I guess that's what I needed to *connect* to the character. Sam... well, I never was able to get that little troll from Bashki out of my mind, even though I loved Sam in the book. Sean Austin has permanently replaced the Bashki Sam. I very much liked the way he portrayed Sam - not overdone (like Bashki) or pushy, just protective. A little more like a big brother.

Other nods to Boromir/Sean Bean - when he gets the ring, and at the council - I finally have some sympathies for him (in the book, it was Faramir who made me understand why Boromir did what he did). Orlando Bloom was outstanding. Fabulous young actor - just so much I can say about him that would be a rehash of what everyone else has said. And I thought both Sir Ian's were fabulous. Bilbo was *exactly* like I imagined him and Gandalf (who I didn't care for in the book) was expressive (despite make up) and I am glad for Sir Ian's nomination. Everyone was much improved in my mind due to "facial expressions" I think it was what I needed to "connect" with them all (even SarumaN).

Ungoliant
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Post#5 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

How come nobody gives the Ring any credit? It looked exactly like I imagined it to be! Especially the nice sound it made when it hit Bilbo's floor - not a wimpy 'ting' or a glassy 'clink' or even a brassy 'dink'....it was a solid and evil sounding 'thungk'.

[Edited on 5/3/2002 by Ungoliant]

Yummy
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Post#6 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

dude, I loved the way the ring hit the floor. I thought that was extra primo special. Cool effect, nice touch.

My complaint was the scene with Frodo and Aragorn at the end. As I recall from the book, Frodo doesn't have a good bye scene with Aragorn, he runs away, and Aragorn tries to find him, but realizes he can't get to him, so he must save the other hobbits, right?

I had a chance to watch the Prophecy the other night, and it's one of the first parts that I recognized Viggo Mortensen. He plays lucifer, and does an excellent job. It's a cool part - he's evil, but neutral to the story and actually ends up helping the good guys. I loved the way Viggo played the character, and I watch the movie just to see his little part at the end. I'm interested in seeing what happens with him in the next two films. I would like them to flesh out his character a little more, and I expect they will do that.

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Post#7 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

All heil goes to the Ring, I loved the sound it made, and indeed it looked just like in my imagination. I want that ring! (and don't worry, I can handle it, I'm Tom Bombadil, remember? :P ) :D

The facial expressions were excellent in this film. Very emotional characters, all of them, even Gandalf. They did a great job, and I hope they'll continue to do so in the next episodes... :)

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Lanya
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Post#8 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Hmmm, I disagree on the Boromir thing, but Sam...I think he did very well with the appearance, and also with the happier scenes, and the 'cheeky grin' that I feel Hobbits are supposed to have...but he couldn't look genuinely upset...he just looked like he had wind and was grimacing, so I couldn't believe that his character was truely sad in the film. Boromir in the book was not worth two thoughts about, and I suppose Sean Bean did give him a little more 'personality' in the film, and the character was given a whole new image...but I still don't think he was any good... Have you seen 'Extremally Dangerous' (I think that's what it was called) a BBC two part drama that Sean was in? He played some kind of criminal...it was a couple of years ago I think...but that was good, he managed to actually act well in that...so if you see it advertised...give it a go...I know it's un-LOTR related, but you seem to be a bit of a Sean fan...

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Post#9 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

I have to defend Boromir - Sean Bean - I never cared for Boromir in the novel, but the Actor got me really wrapped up in Boromir and to this day I can't watch his death scene without getting choaked up. Bilbo was excellent and Sam... wow - It's very hard to get what you want in a movie from your favorite character, but Sean Astin met my expectations and frankly made me love Sam even more. I thought Sam was perfection. Everyone was so darn good that I am amazed at their abilities and the directors ability to bring it together...

jgpoole
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Post#10 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Most of the actors did a fairly good job. I would really like to kick Sean Bean. I hate his acting anyway. In fact I hate everything about him. He makes me puke. Sorry to all you brits out there but the guy needs to go back to acting school. I too prefered the Gandalf in the books although Ian did a great job with the character and showed his talents to the max. I can't wait to see him carry off the (coma ridden Gandalf the White) in the second book. What about the Orcs. Got give it to them. Hell, they were off somewhere everyday burning a dooby before every shoot knowing they were having the honor of dying before a bunch of goody, goodies. lol They deserved an Oscar just for that! LOL

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