Sightings of unknown creatures

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Fionwë Urion
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Sightings of unknown creatures

Post#1 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:33 am

I am wondering what people think of creatures like the Loch Ness "monster", and others. Basically any creatures that most people consider to be stories, hoaxs, or are thought of as being extinct. So give your opinions, facts, reasons behind why you think that it does/doesn't, or did/didn't exist, it being whatever creature the conversation has drifted to. If anyone knows of a creature that hasn't been brought up, or discussed, please bring it up at an appropiate time. The point of this thread is multi-fold, to debate about the existence of these creatures, learn about other's opinions concerning them, and share any knowledge you may possess pertaing to such creatures.
Since it is probably the most well-known, I'll just start with Nessie, the Loch Ness creature. Who thinks that it is real?

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laurelindhe ilmarin
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Post#2 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:37 am

I happen to believe that anything is possible and that the world's mysteries may not have been completely discovered yet. A scientist's most valuable tools are an open mind and an idea, though both of those qualities seem to be in short supply in some of those in the scientific community. However, for those who are willing to open themselves up to the wondrous possibilities of life, there is much to be found. I think that the Loch Ness "monster", Sasquatch, Yetis and the like may very well exist; then again, they may not. Until someone solidly proves that such things do or do not exist with cold, hard evidence, I will not be so presumptuous to think that I can know one way or another. I am of the opinion that we, as humans, are very haughty and vain in thinking that we know what life is and how it came about and the limits of what it can be here on Earth. Three hundred years ago, they thought they knew it all, but look how far we've come since then, not only technologically, but also biologically. Imagine where we'll be three hundred years from now-how much will we have discovered by then to the contrary of what we think we know now? To borrow from Mark Twain, the famous American novelist, the most dangerous thing is what we "know for sure that just ain't so". Personally, I am very skeptical about whether or not these mythical creatures exist, but I want to believe that they do, I really do. In my heart of hearts, I feel that it is highly possible that such things are out there, or perhaps others, overlooked by us somehow and right in our midst. Who knows? That's my point of view on the matter.

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leelee
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Post#3 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:50 am

I believe. I saw a documentary once about creatures so deep in the water that they had built in lights of sorts to find their way. And just because we don't find something today does not mean we shall not find it tomorrow though I hope we don't. Mankind has a way of destroying the gentle and the mysterious for profit.
So, absolutely I believe. Of course I admit to living in Faerieland on my holidays and talk to elves and faeries routinely.:)

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Post#4 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:12 pm

All those monsters (Nessie, Bigfoot, Krakens, Godzilla, Bob the Angry Flower) do not exist. The only monsters left on this planet, belong to the human species.
Give up the Halfring, she-elf...

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mellon
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Post#5 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:15 pm

I have always loved the mystery of Loch Ness and the mists of Inverness in Scotland.. (The mists of Avalon is one of my favourite books/films) I hope that the mystery never will be solved ,it takes a much of peoples fantasy away....There are many thoughts though.specially about Loch Ness..One of them is that there was a circus that had elephants that needed a bath :funnylaugh: And YES I do believe in such mysteries

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Post#6 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:26 pm

OK, Vir. I dare you to spend the night in a haunted house. :)~

Strike that. You could legitimately argue that "haunted" be replaced with "crack", so that your claim stands. Instead, I dare you to go swimming in the middle of the ocean at night. A buddy and I were discussing, just this weekend, our belief that there absolutely must be monsters out there. We were referring to the ocean, the deep places of this world. I think we have already discovered them; I mean, if a giant freaky squid with wicked tentacles and a beek of death does not qualify as a monster, then call me an orc. I can even spread this rumor that the navy guy was telling us about the crew of a sunk vessel. They described scenes of horror of watching giant tentacles come up out of the black depths and snatch their buddies right out of the life boats, dragging them below. And this buddy of mine is a long time avid sailor with so much sea time it boggles the mind, and yet he is afraid to go swimming in the deep. He does not fear for the physical elements, but for the creatures that he has seen out there.

Also on my list of already discovered monsters:
killer whale (Shamu ain't cute, it's a KILLER, no joke),
15 ft. aligator/croc,
sharks,
anything studly enough to hang out with Ulmo on the ocean floor,
goliath birdeating offspring of ungoliant (they still live in Guyana; I'm not kidding; this spider is the size of a freakin' dinner plate!).

I wonder if there are any man-eating (or elf-eating, or dwarf eating, etc.) plants, like in the amazon or something. It maybe we have shamefully destroyed them before we had the chance to use them as a new death-penalty.

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leelee
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Post#7 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:46 pm

There was once in the news a sensational finding of some huge blob that just came up from the ocean in Tasmania and was beached. Noone, no scientist even had ever seen anything like it and it weighed about a ton I believe. They unkindly I think cut a chunk out of it to be analyzed and more than that I cannot recall what the documentary said. I mean it was huge and it was something. We cannot believe that we know of everything in the deeps. It is not as if we have been digging for mithril.
I believe. Maybe we don't see them much because like Tinker Bell every time dear Vir or others say "I don't believe" a monster of the deep drops dead. that is sad.

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virumor
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Post#8 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:22 am

Those are not monsters, those are all just animals.
Give up the Halfring, she-elf...

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Post#9 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:33 am

One of them is that there was a circus that had elephants that needed a bath :funnylaugh:

It may seem silly, but maybe you should see what a swimming elephant looks like, and what Nessie picture they refer to, before you reject the idea.
Nessie/elephant
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Fionwë Urion
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Post#10 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:30 am

There was once in the news a sensational finding of some huge blob that just came up from the ocean in Tasmania and was beached. Noone, no scientist even had ever seen anything like it and it weighed about a ton I believe. They unkindly I think cut a chunk out of it to be analyzed and more than that I cannot recall what the documentary said. I mean it was huge and it was something. We cannot believe that we know of everything in the deeps.


LeeLee, I think I know what you are talking about, and if it's the same incident that I heard of, it was the insides of a whale. The very fact that the giant squid was thought to be a monster of myth and legend, sprung from the ignorance and superstition of sailors from the past thousand years, and then was discovered to be real, though a little smaller than what legend painted it to be, shows that we don't know everything that is to be known. Space is called the last frontier, though the ocean hasn't even been fully explored. There could be things in the ocean that we do not know about, and given the vast expanse and depth of it, in all probability there are creatures that we haven't found to exist, or haven't even heard anything about.
Concerning Nessie, named from Loch Ness, National Geographic financed a huge sonar scan of the loch, but turned up nothing. Though disappointed, they even admitted that it didn't mean anything, because the loch is so filled with subterranean caverns and caves, that Nessie could have been anywhere. It would take hundreds of subs to thoroughly check all the caverns, and hundreds of boats to scan the entire loch, all at the same time in order to ensure that Nessie didn't just elude them by dodging the boats and subs.
Laurelindhe ilmarin, you have an amazing way of putting words together. If I could voice all of my thoughts and opinions like that, I would able to do quite a few things.
Amarië, that picture referred to is called the Surgeon's Photo, and was admitted to being taken for the intent of a hoax. The real photographer of it created the object in the water from a rubber mold, and then fitted it over a toy sub, then took the picture in such a way that it looked like it was really big and he was really far away. He could have been lying, but that wouldn't make much sense, and most likely he wasn't.

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