Events surrounding "The Hobbit"

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Events surrounding "The Hobbit"

Post#1 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:42 pm

Taken from Appendix B of LOTR.

2945 - Thrain imprisoned in Dol Guldor. The last of the Seven Rings is taken from him.

2850 - Gandalf again enters Dol Guldur and discovers that its master is indeed Sauron, who is gathering all the Rings and seeking for news of the One, and of Isildur's Heir. He finds Thrain and receives the key of Erebor. Thain dies in Dol Guldur.

2851 The White Council meets. Gandalf urges an attack on Dol Guldur. Saruman overrules him. Saruman begins to [secretly] search [for the Ring] near the Gladden Fields.

2890 - Bilbo born.

2931 - Aragorn born.

2933 - Elrond 'adopts' Aragorn and brings him to Imladris.

2939 - Saruman discovers that Saruon's servants are searching the Anduin near Gladden Fields, and that Sauron therefor has learned of Isildur's end. He is alarmed, but says nothing to the Council.

2941 - Thorin and Gandalf visit Bilbo in the Shire. Bilbo meets Smeagol-Gollum and finds the Ring. The White Council meets; Saruman agrees to an attack on Dol Guldur, since he now wishes to prevent Sauron from searching the River. Sauron having made his plans abandons Dol Guldur. The Battle of Five Armies in Dale. Death of Thorin II. Bard of Esgaroth slays Smaug. Dain of the Iron Hills becomes King under the Mountain (Dain II).

2942 - Bilbo returns to the Shire with the Ring. Sauron returns in secret to Mordor.

2944 - Bard rebuilds Dale and becomes King. Gollum leaves the Mountains and begins his search of the 'thief' of the Ring.

2949 - Gandalf and Balin visit Bilbo in the Shire.

2951 - Sauron declares himself openly and gathers power in Mordor. He begins the rebuilding of Barad-dur. Gollum turns towards Mordor. Sauron sends three of the Nazgul to reoccupy Dol Guldur.
Elrond reveals to 'Estel' his true name and ancestry, and delivers to him the shards of Narsil. Arwen, newly returned from Lorien, meets Aragorn in the woods of Imladris. Aragorn goes out into the Wild.

2953 - Last meeting of the White Council. They debate the Rings. Saruman feigns that he has discovered that the One Ring has passed down Anduin to the Sea. Saruman withdraws to Isengard, which he takes as his own, and fortifies it. Being jealous and afraid of Gandalf he sets spies to watch all his movements; and he notes his interest in the Shire. He soon begins to keep agents in Bree and the Southfarthing.

2956 - Aragorn meets Gandalf for the first time.

2968 - Frodo is born.

2980 - Aragorn and Arwen meet again in Lorien. Gollum reaches the confines of Mordor and becomes acquainted with Shelob.

3000 - The shadow of Mordor lengthens. Saruman dares to use the palantir of Orthanc, but becomes ensnared by Sauron, who has the Ithil Stone. He becomes a traitor to the Council. His spies report that the Shire is being closely guarded by the Rangers.

3001 - Bilbo's farewell feast.

3009-17 - The Hunt for Gollum. Aragorn takes him in 3017 and brings him to Thranduil in Mirkwood. Gandalf visits Minas Tirith and reads the scroll of Isildur.

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Post#2 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:43 am

Excellent Beren :D . Now what about the reopening of the Mines of Moria, and are there any other significant events between The Hobbit and LotR?

It seems that a bridging movie could then cover the reopening of the mines and the attack against the Dwarves, the turning of Saruman, Sauron building his strength, and the Hunt for Gollum as the key events tieing the Hobbit and LotR together.

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Post#3 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:28 am

Gandalfs Beard wrote:It seems that a bridging movie could then cover the reopening of the mines and the attack against the Dwarves, the turning of Saruman, Sauron building his strength, and the Hunt for Gollum as the key events tieing the Hobbit and LotR together.


Even if there is a bridging movie, that's a lot of different events. It would seem to me that they would be more suited for a collection of short stories than a single movie which would, I imagine, need a unified plot. The attempted reoccupation of Mordor, the corruption of Saruman, the rebuilding of the might of Mordor, and the hunt for Gollum are only marginally related to each other in individual pairs, and the four of them together do not form a unified whole.

It's not my intent to be rude, but I don't think a single movie could be made out of these.

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Post#4 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:08 pm

How about something like the Animatrix. It would seem to eminently suit your suggestion Eldorion 8-) . Come to think about it, that might work for The Silmarillion too.

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Post#5 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:09 pm

Gandalfs Beard wrote:Now what about the reopening of the Mines of Moria, and are there any other significant events between The Hobbit and LotR?


Coming soon. ;)

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Post#6 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:09 pm

I don't really know anything about the Animatrix, could you elaborate on the idea? I suppose it would be feasible though from the little I do know.

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Post#7 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:00 pm

Did you ever see the film Heavy Metal Eldorion? It was a compilation of stories from the Comic Magazine of the same name. Each story was animated in the style of the original Artist. The Animatrix is like that. It takes back-stories and side stories related to The Matrix films and they are all animated in different styles. Some are in Highly Realistic CGI, and others like Japanese Anime, and others are almost Expressionist. If you haven't seen it WATCH IT NOW :mrgreen: .

Such an approach might work quite well for the different stories surrounding the Hobbit.

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Post#8 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:54 pm

That sounds like an intriguing idea, though naturally it wouldn't be a feature film. I hadn't heard of that before. I'll have to YouTube it. :mrgreen:

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