Dol Guldur concepts.

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Elladan
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Post#1 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:25 pm

I was wondering if anyone knows of any appendices that discuss how Dol Guldur looks?

If not does this mean the entire concept will be created with no guide from the books.

And does anyone know of any art works involving Dol Guldur. Preferably for Alan Lee or John Howe, as any pre existing concepts from them will probably not vary too much in thier work for the films.

If not does anyone care to venture suggestions as to how it might look?

I personaly always envisioned a short squat tower that reaches barely 40 feet above the tree canopy. It will be heavily influenced by Bara Dur with vast rusting spikes but less of the mixed architectural areas as it would have been built reasonably quickly rather than over millenia.

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Gandalfs Beard
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Post#2 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:12 pm

B'arelyn Dwarf posted a link to Howe's website on the Howe and Lee thread. I've looked over a lot, but didn't see Dol Guldur. But there is a ton of stuff there 8-) . You should check the link and browse through the art. You might find something.

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Post#3 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:26 pm

Description of Dol Guldur is always lacking, but I did find:

Silmarillion (Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age): "...Mithrandir at great peril went again to Dol Guldur and the pits of the Sorcerer ." (italics mine) Tolkien also called it "Sauron's hold" a page later.

As to pictures: I was able to dig up 3. The first two are by John Howe, but I'm not sure about the third. It may just be fan art. I will post the second two in separate posts.

John Howe 1: http://www.john-howe.com/portfolio/gall ... 2-port.jpg

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Eldorion
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Post#6 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:28 pm

Besides the aforementioned pits the only description I can recall is in note 12 to "The Disaster of the Gladden Fields" in Unfinished Tales: "Amon Lanc, "Naked Hill," was the highest point in the highland at the south-west corner of the Greenwood, and was so called because no trees grew upon its summit." Amon Lanc was later called Dol Guldur after Sauron occupied it.

From the above description I always imagined Dol Guldur as a big bare hill in the middle of the forest with some fortifications built up around it. I would imagine the pits are dungeons and other underground areas for the servants of Sauron to live in.

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Post#7 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:50 pm

While I agree with Eldorion, on the interpretation of what Dol Guldur would look like, I suspect that it will have to be cinimaticly (is that a word?) impressive.

I also hope that they don't make it too much like Barad-dur.

My personal thought is that Dol Guldur was a place that perverted the forest around it..and that it would not be an impressive tower, but a low lying flat structure, (similar to the drawings of the temple of elemental evil from TSR)

http://home.flash.net/~brenfrow/dd1/t1-4.htm

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Gandalfs Beard
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Post#8 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:56 pm

The word you are looking for is cinematically ;) . But you are right. Despite what it should look like based on the description, it should look cool on screen. I kind of like Howe's towers and the D&D picture you posted. I also liked the third image Beren posted. It did remind me of Howe's towers, but also of the White Witches Ice Castle from LWW.

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Post#9 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:15 am

While I agree that towers would look quite cool, I also have to agree with anaclagon that I hope it does not look too much like the Barad-dur. We already had two big black towers in LOTR, let's have some variety! I think a number of smaller towers around/on top of the hill could be imposing yet not repetitive.

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Post#10 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:36 am

Good Point. I agree Eldorion :) . Variety is the Spice of Life ;) . I like your idea. If I have any time I might doodle up something along those lines.

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