The Easterlings

caerdrath
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The Easterlings

Post#1 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:58 am

Well, seeing as these guys were left out, i thought i might as well talk about them...and why they were added in TTT, awesome as they were/looked, they served no real purpose to the plot of the film, was preeeeeeeetty pathetic really, bless 'em.
In TTT dvd, the comentary stated that there was alot of conflict with the looks/theme of the Easterling warriors (being very similar to some armies/tribes today)...but still doesnt explain why they were added, it really buggs me, as ya can imagine...i mean....did they just pop over for tea??

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valedhelgwath
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Post#2 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:40 am

I assume by the Easterlings, you are refering to the Haradrim warriors we see arriving at the Black Gate and being ambushed by Faramir's Rangers in TTT? As far as I'm aware there were no Easterlings portrayed in the films, unless as a token effort PJ had some arrive at Pelinnor Fields as he did with the Elves at Helms Deep.

Personally, I thought the scenes with these Haradrim were some of the best in the films. They looked pretty awesome, particularly on their oliphants.

I haven't watched the extra's from RotK yet, or for that matter PJ's commentary from TTT. Does he call these warriors Easterlings? Easterlings did take part in the War of the Ring, but their part was played in the north of Middle Earth, where they attacked the Dwarves of Erebor and the Iron Hills, and the Men of Dale.

caerdrath
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Post#3 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:43 am

no, the Haradrim are a different warrior, the Easterlings were only in the TT for about 2mins, when Frodo and Sam first get to the gates of Mordor, and they spy upon a small army of these golden armour clad warriors. just think that it would have been better if PJ found a place for them in RotK to fight.

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Vee
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Post#4 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:29 am

Maybe that was PJ's way of bringing them in to the story and showing them to us knowing he didn't have time or resources to use the original story. But if we didn't see them again (I can't remember) what happened to all those armies Sauron collected in Mordor? Do we assume they went off in a different direction to Gondor?

caerdrath
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Post#5 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:19 am

true..but then, if he wanted to do that, there were far more...thrilling parts of each book that he could have added in the films, take the meeting with Gildor, or the Barrow Wights..both would have been a favourable scene to add to the film.

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rhapsody
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Post#6 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:55 am

But if we didn't see them again (I can't remember) what happened to all those armies Sauron collected in Mordor? Do we assume they went off in a different direction to Gondor?


Most of them fell in the ravine's that were created when Baradur & Mount Doom collapsed. Others fled, if I remember it correctly, so my guess those fella's fled as well.

caerdrath
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Post#7 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:29 am

yeah, most of 'em did die through falling, but even then, the armies that were there were only orcs, and to my knowledge, Uruk Hai, but could be mistaken. didnt see any Haradrim or Easterlings there.

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grondmaster
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Post#8 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:46 pm

Read the Books! Don't worry about what was in the films until you do. :teacher:

The films aren't Gospel as good as they are; they are only The LotR according to PJ. :elfbiggrin:
'Share and enjoy'

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rhapsody
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Post#9 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:52 pm

:D sounds almost like The world according to Garp (great book by the way). I am currently re-reading LOTR and I am still stuck in the Shire ;) So it might take a while before I get to the good parts in Return of the King Grondmaster ;)

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Post#10 » Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:16 am

same here, but it jsut bugs me that PJ has, in many ways, ruined the whole LotR way just to make it look more....'pretty'

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