Merry and Pippin:book and film

franci.eowyn
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Merry and Pippin:book and film

Post#1 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:46 pm

Hello everybody! I wanted to ask you a little thing :) In the book,do Merry and Pippin behave like in the movie? Or the are more serious? And,are they both cousins and best friends like in the movie?
thanks!! :wavehello:

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Post#2 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:38 pm


Well, yes and no. They are certainly the "light hearted" ones of the bunch, but not quite as crazy as the movies. For instance they never stole the dragon fireworks, nor were they initially met by Frody/Sam while trying to steal Farmer Maggot's crops, nor were they seemingly high and munching out after the Battle of Isengard etc. But Pippin was obviously the dimwit.



A fun fact is that in the book Elrond actually advised against Pippin joining the Fellowship because his behavior was too much of a risk. Instead he wanted him to be a messenger back to The Shire to warn of what was coming. But ultimately Gandalf convinced him it'd be OK. How well it worked out is for you to decide :p



And actually Frodo, Merry, and Pippin were all cousins to some extent. They three were also all best friends. Though Sam wasn't as close to Merry/Pippin as Frodo was, while Frodo was closest to Sam.



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brego
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Post#3 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:28 pm

Yes there are differences but I loved Merry and Pip in the films. Funny and at times Heartbreaking. I cry still when Pippin finds Merry on Pelenor after the battle. Love it.

franci.eowyn
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Post#4 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:32 am


When they find each other after the battle,is the same thing that happens in the book? And when Pip goes away with Gandalf,do they say bye in the same way of the film? 



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Post#5 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:39 am


Thanks for your answers! Pip and Merry in the film are very cute blush Do you think that PJ changed them too much? Maybe he changed their way to behave to make also some fun in the movie. Wich ones do you like most? The book's ones or the movie's ones? And so don't they sing that funny song " you can serch  far and wide..."? However I love that song surprise



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Post#6 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:34 pm


IIRC it is the same in the book once they stumble across each other as well as Frodo's departure. Though it emphasized more how tall they had become and towered over Frodo and Sam, as drinking the water from the Entmoor rivers gives magical growing properties, which explains why the trees are so tall. So they went down in the books as being the tallest hobbits in history.



I'd say I like the film versions more, but in the book they really are the same, it's just exaggerated in the movies. It was definitely to add comedic relief to the films but I don't mind since it's just an emphasized version of who they were anyways. They were also obviously trying to appeal to a younger generation with all of the pot/pipe-weed references though, same in The Hobbit. Though I wouldn't mind trying some Longbottom Leaf myself...



I don't remember if they sang that particular song in the books though, been awhile since I read FOTR. I'm going to revisit it soon though :D



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Post#7 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:53 am

Changes I noticed.


Didn't meet in the Corn Field. Met much earlier and differently from the movie.


Merry spend more time in Gondor meeting Soldiers and their sons.


Merry doesn't go to the last stand at The Black Gates of Mordor as he's too ill after confronting to WitchKing.
Pippin takes down a Troll single handed during the last stand, however the slain Troll falls on top of him pinning him under its hideous bulk.


The meeting with Tree Beard is totally different in the book. No Orc in the book and they don't climb up the sleeping Ent as they do in the book.


Tree Beards discovery of Isenguard's treason against Fangorn does not happen in the book.


The brief stay in Bree is quite different with Merry actually seeing a Nazgul out on the street and circumbing to his evil and fainting.


There are probably more, I'm relying on memory.


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Post#8 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:33 am


Also I know there was some huge change having to deal with Pippin finding the palantir. I can't remember it and I don't wanna sort through LOTR right now, but I know there was something. Either with the palantir scene itself or when/how Merry and Pippin split ways....



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Post#9 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:24 am

Thank you both :) yesterday I wathed TFOTR and TTT and in the second Merry and Pippin look more serious,so I think like you said. PJ probably used them for fun but then he made them more like they are in the book.especially Merry show to be really clever.so I perhaps the difference in just for the first part of the first film where they joke :)

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Post#10 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:32 am

I wonder a thing:why do Pippin and Merry and not,for example someone else?

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