Who is the most valiant man?

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virumor
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Who is the most valiant man?

Post#51 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Easy excuse for Maeglin : he was in love with his niece Idril Celebrindal, but it was prohibited of course so he found other ways to have her.
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Who is the most valiant man?

Post#52 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Maybe ... but can you name another Man who dares to fight with Melkor, He that Arises in Might, Morgoth Bauglir, the Dark Enemy of the World? And I mean "fight", not defy him like Beren or Hurin.

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Post#53 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Fight? don't forget that Morgoth's feet were chopped off at the end of war of wrath and that turin is gonna be assisted by tulkas and eonwe, so turin is just gonna deliver the death blow after tulkas and eonwe prepared him.
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Post#54 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Well, if Morgoth's feet were chopped off, then how did he managed to escape from the Void? how did he slipped past the guards? If he started a final battle, than he had to have some sort of power left in him, hadn't he?
Btw, I don't think Tulkas would've needed any assistance: he took care of Melkor alone before!

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Post#55 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Sauron pushed Morgoth in his wheelchair out of the void. after all, sauron is his number 1 minion.
Or maybe Morgoth is gonna walk on his hands or something.
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Post#56 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

It didn't say his feet or rather his foot was cut of at the end of the war of wrath. It says they hewed them from underneath him. This could mean they just swept them from underneath him with a stafe of spear pole forceing him on to his back or front. Don't forget that once he returns to the void he will regain his ability to change shape also.
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Post#57 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

It could mean both. If i was Morgoth, i wouldn't leave the Void at all, because everyone says it's predestined some wiseguy is gonna kill him.
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Post#58 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Yeah, Morgoth would have to be careful: the wiseguy has a lot of reasons to kill him! Actually, can you name a Child of Iluvatar who wouldn't like to see him gone for good (this time! hehe)?

Namarie!
Evil may yet be good to have been ... and yet remain evil. (Silmarillion)

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Post#59 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Lots of Easterling-guys or Haradrim.

And maybe Maeglin.
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Post#60 » Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:00 am

Oops, there are those guys, I completely forgot about them! My mistake ...

But, then, what do they know? They all have been twisted by Melkor or Sauron. As for Maeglin ... well, let somebody else find him an excuse; I can't think of any at the moment!

Namarie!
Evil may yet be good to have been ... and yet remain evil. (Silmarillion)

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