Some help with vowels

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Some help with vowels

Post#1 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:14 pm


I've got a question about vowel placement. I tend to write using Quenya, and as a rule I tend to put the vowels over the preceding consonant. Also as a note, I usually write in English with the Elvish alphabet.

Where I run into trouble is a word that starts with a vowel. Where should I put the vowel in that case? Should I write it over the following consonant, or above the other letters but not over a consonant, or on the same level as the other letters? (Speaking of which, if I was writing the words "a" or "I", would those letters just go above the rest?)

Thanks, all!

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Some help with vowels

Post#2 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:03 am

Hi! If you are writing in Quenya [with the Elvish letters] and you have a word that begins with a short vowel, then I would place the vowel mark over a short carrier -- a short carrier looks a bit like an 'undotted' i.

If an English word, then I would place an initial vowel over the following consonant, although you could do that, or use an initial carrier as well -- if you generally went with 'preceding consonant' I mean. I would be consistent in the same text however, depending upon your choice.

Tolkien will later describe a 'general use' mode applicable to Sindarin and Quenya, where vowel marks may in this mode be placed either above the following or the preceding consonant tengwa. And one can write English in the 'general use' as well.

Appendix F notes: 'When there was no consonant present in the required position, the tehta was placed above the 'short carrier', of which a common form was like an undotted i'

Long vowels could be placed upon a long carrier [like an undotted j], or they could be doubled, which was however only frequently done with the 'curls' and sometimes the 'accent'.

For initial long and short carriers, see Tolkien's usage in the following Quenya transcription...

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Some help with vowels

Post#3 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:04 pm

That makes a lot of sense. I think I'll probably go with the carrier for the sake of clarity. I just know if I start writing it on the following consonant I'm going to hopelessly confuse myself. 

Thank you very much! 

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