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I would have to do research to see what Tolkien intended in Dernhelm's "deceit."

As for the rest, the enemy has no right to the truth, although no direct lie can be told. So evasion/disguise is the accepted norm. Gandalf knew he was about to deal with Wormtongue, the traitor Saruman's eyes and ears in Meduseld. Why should he lay aside his staff? He did not deceive the warden by evading the complete truth of the matter.

And I believe the "mushrooming" was shown as a past event that was clearly regretted and which in the past had received its just desserts.
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Considering the fact he is the Godfather of writing fantasy.

Yes, but did he really put peels of oranges in his mouth to amuse his children and grandchildren? I think not.
(I still don't know how to quote someone else's post, so I am resorting to typing from memory.)

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I don't think I agree with the above statement, but I will give it some deep thought (42).
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Yes, but did he really put peels of oranges in his mouth to amuse his children and grandchildren? I think not.

Maybe not.... I also doubt he lopped off a head of a horse and place it in his nemesis's bed either, but either way, none of us actually know Tolkien's fetishes. =p
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I also doubt he lopped off a head of a horse and place it in his nemesis's bed either, but either way, none of us actually know Tolkien's fetishes.

Only on April 1st.
April 1st, that's Presidents' Day isn't it?
My dad's birthday, also April Fools!!! <-- In Canada.
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April 1st, that's Presidents' Day isn't it?

Depends what country you're referring to.
The Views of Anyone Advocating the Banning of Books Should be Viewed Askance.
Books Should Never Be Banned... Access, However, May Be Restricted =D

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...the enemy has no right to the truth ...
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What is truth? Me thinks there are many shades of truthiness.
If all things -not only books- that happen to be disliked by some ppl would be banned, there would be nothing left at all.
truthiness
my new favorite word Elf Smilie
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truthiness
was coined by Stephen Colbert, where he appears on the 'Colbert Report' on Comedy Central as a pseudo-blowhard.

Post removed. Balrog, this is not what PT is about, and this is not how we treat each other here, no matter how deeply we disagree. Feel free to repost, but not in this manner. 

-Amarië, Council Member

I do not see the value in resurrecting for public consumption this debate, which has long since been thoroughly aired on all sides.  Nor will I dignify any personal attacks with a reply here.

Gandalf

At the cost of dragging along this weird debate I must say a few words.I've read and grown up with the HP series and I'm as much deeply in love with it as I'm with Tolkien's works.I do not understand literature immensely and am certainly under-qualified compared to the rest of my fellow PT-ers,but I know what I read and I do not waste my time.

About occultism,I hail from India and we have a lot of occult practices around and I can say apart from the Horcrux story there isn't much of a problem in the books.As we were growing up the Hp books were getting banned by churches,getting burnt and stuff but you know what,HP taught me a lot of things,foremost being about making choices.Harry is not a liar,he is a young fellow caught up in a lot of problems as most heroes are.I'm sure anyone with even an "emotional range of a teaspoon" would sympathise with his actions.

And come on,all teenagers have this weird,angry phase,but the books taught fellowship,about standing in the face of danger and not giving up,about respect for the down-trodden,the meaning and values of belonging to a family,of sticking to your friends..everything Tolkien also taught me.

So deep down,Rowling,however incompetent compared to Tolkien,gave me the same values which Tolkien did.I'm 21 and I might not get much about bringing up kids but theres no use in prohibiting them absolutely.They are human beings with their own sets of minds.As parents we must give them the opportunity to read and learn and make the best choice about what they want to believe.and also to learn how to face the consequences of their choices.That is the only way they will grow or will end up beneath their beds reading adult magazines at inappropriate ages.

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