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I saw it the other day with my dad. We both liked it a lot! I loved the part with Yoda fighting Count Dooku. He was jumping and hopping around, and then after the fight, he got his cane and started hobbling around again!Smile Smilie Well, I really liked and can't wait till it's on home video.
Yep, saw it again yesterday, going back again Tuesday, love it and it gets better, I'm off to find a pirate so I can save myself £5 a day going to see it. Still think Dooku's crap though. And the in-jokes, "Why do I get the feeling you're goign to be the death of me?" Laugh? I nearly pissed myself!
Yeah, the audience here cracked up too...funny that.

I liked Dooku though. Felt rather sorry for him, what with him being rejected by Gandalf and now Obi-Wan. Although I almost expected him to then turn to Obi-Wan with the 'I am your father' line...

Great lines: 'Around the survivors, a perimeter create', and

Anakin: Then we decided to rescue you
Obi-Wan: Good job
I think Obi-wan could have laid off the "my young padawan" line a bit though, it's starting to annoy me...
Well yes, it's annoying Anakin too. Somehow he will have to grow angry on Obi-wan.

But Darth Maul could never convince me he was better in controlling the force as the Jedi. Count Dooku was much better.

Btw, I saw the digital version two days ago. Cool Smilie
Yeah it got on my nerves too.

I just got an e-mail from a friend. She's seen it 9 times already...and I thought I was obsessed. Mind you she saw TPM 27 times (at the cinema) so I'm not sure whether I ought to be envious or worried.
Well, that's 3 times now, and I think I'm going to give it a rest now for a month or so. Count Dooku is just not scary, he doesn't have the prescence of his forerunners, and he doesn't say anything you can quote like Vader. Even though Maul hardly said anything, what he did say was infinitely quotable "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, At last we shall have our revenge."
Dooku does nothing interesting, and if you walked into a dark room and saw him there, you wouldn't even blink. And he won't shut up about young apprentices either....
I have hit the not-liking-it-as-much-as-I-will-in-a-few-months-time-when-I've-seen-it-on-a-pirate-in-the-comfort-of-my-own-home-about-10-times stage I think.

It never helps when you go to watch a movie on a day when the place is practically empty and a whole bunch of popcorn munching kids come and sit right next to you and fidget the whole way through the movie. Well, that and trying to retain some feeling in my arse for the whole film...
Bring a soft cushion next time!

I've got a pirate copy already, although I think I'll still go to the cinema a few more times, if only to beat my record for TPM. AOTC is far better than that trash so it would be horrible if I had to tell my grandchildren that I saw TPM more than AOTC.

I've forgiven Lucas, he has redeemed himself. As proof of my goodwill, I've bought the TPM novel, plus a few more Jedi Academy books, and am eagerly awaiting the AOTC novel to arrive (next week I hope). I look forward to reading them.

Hail Lucas! Long Live The King!
*whispers very quietly* I think I prefferred TPM actually *runs like Buggery*
But not fast enough! Darth Ungoliant launches herself at super lightning speed and bites an arm off a mangy squirrel.


Ok then, now you've seen AOTC, where would you place in in your all-time SW movie ranking? Mine is:

1) ESB
2) ANH & AOTC - can't decide
5) TPM
This is my ranking:

I still like the old movies much better. The way Luke Skywalker, Princes Leia and Han Solo are played made me almost believe they really existed in a galaxy far far away. No actor in the new movies comes close to that. They all just look bored. Not passionated about the character they’re bringing, no convincing emotions. Luke Skywalker at least screamed when his hand was cut off. Except for Yoda. I liked the way he was shaking around. And I am glad R2-D2 and 3CPO could bring some humor in this one.
I also liked the references to the older movies: the death star, Luke’s home. I hope in the next movie they show the Millennium Falcon.
I also liked the references to the older movies: the death star, Luke’s home. I hope in the next movie they show the Millennium Falcon.
What, they had the use of a time machine, or did I read in something that wasn't there? Animated Wink Smilie
Cool, I get to foreshadow as much as I like then!
And I'd put my ranking about the same...
1)ESB Untouchably perfect
2)ANH still fantastic
3)ROTJ bloody Ewoks...
5)AOTC, crappy, crappy dialogue and a crappy bad guy.
Sorry guys. Might change my mind one day, but not today...
My brother forwarded me this:
What is your Star Wars Name? It appears that Lucas uses a formula to create all those stupid names you see in the Star Wars trilogy and Phantom Menace (JarBinks, ObiWan, etc.)

Well...I have gotten a hold of the formula! To see what your Star Wars name is, follow the steps below.
Your Star Wars First Name
1: Take the first 3 letters of your last name.
2: Add to that, the first 2 letters of your first name.

Your Star Wars Last Name
1: Take the first 2 letters of your mother's maiden name.
2: Add to that the first 3 letters of the name of the town or city
you were born in.

There you go! There's your Star Wars Name. Write your Star Wars Name below so everyone can laugh at your name with you! !

Well I've done a mine:
1) Canda Abter (I sound like a sissy Jedi, pooh!) Sad Smilie

Plastic's first name should be 'Illda' ( Very Big Grin Smilie ) and Grondy 'Utajo' (cool!). Dunno what your last SW names would be.

[Edited on 12/6/2002 by Ungoliant]
Erm... according to your formula, my SW name is in fact....

Holda Uggui, don't they make luggage?
unless your formula is wrong...?
Gosh you're right. Holda Uggui it is...that sounds like those Verpine alien thingies. You know, the ones from the Rogue Squadron novels.

I've a friend who had 'Canwe Fokua'. Snigger.

It's like the pornstar name, where you take your first pets name, and your mothers maiden name. It works as well!
That's a good one Plastic, although my pet cat doesn't have a very exotic name. 'Bertie' doesn't sound very sexy somehow.

Maybe I'll use my middle name (Suria), which is actually the poetic version of 'Matahari' i.e. 'the sun'. Tracy Lords, eat your heart out!
Thanks, Plastic. With a name like Rex Robinson I should go far. Not sure where my lad might end up with Gaylord James for a name though (although Gandalf is his real middle name)
Rosie_Cotton posted on 12/6/2002 at 18:38 the following question under The Hobbit and Gandalf's Party Invitations to the Hosts:
What did people think of star wars? The scipts are getting worse one definite bonus of making films of books at least postAuthorIDs know how to write.
Well Rosie, Lucas has always written really crappy scripts, it's just that Mark Hammill, Harrison Ford etc. were better at not making it sound crappy, whereas Haydn Christensen and Natalie Portman ain't good enough to pull it off. At least that's my theory. Plus the bad guy doesn't get enough cool lines anymore. You can't quote Dooku, I mean "it is clear that this cannot be settled by our knowledge of the force, but by our skill with the lightsaber" just doesn't have the same ring to it as "Your powers are weak old man!" does it?

It's not as good as it used to be sure, but it's still a cut above all your other sci-fi out there.

And while postAuthorIDs know how to write, script writers know how to f*** it up better, case in point, "Lets Hunt some Orc" dear, oh dear, oh dear.....
or "Come and claim him!".

But I loved AotC though. I only enjoyed PJ's FotR.
My SW name is Ramgr Megen. Huh? Could it be more silly? Tongue Smilie Guess it wasn't made for non-English names. Sad Smilie

Golly: did you see other PJ films? Tongue Smilie

[Edited on 17/6/2002 by TomBombadillo]
I dont know.. I was kind of fond of the NOT THE BEARD line myself.. Tongue Smilie
LOL, my SW name following that formula is:
Saame Didev. Sounds like a samurai hero Cool Smilie.
Yeah, I liked the not the beard thingie too Gimli! I only really noticed that while watching the video nice and quietly at home... Very Big Grin Smilie
Okay, this isn't advertising, it's informing all you SW fans that come here to go see this site that I just found this morning. It's supposed to be 1979 again, and you get all the latest (well 23 year old) news on the exciting new sequel to Star Wars, plus toys and comics etc. It's truly fantastic! click on this http://www.firststarwars.com and have a really good time.

Plastic Squirrel is in no way affiliated with this site, he just really likes it, mind you that was how he started out on PT wasn't it?
Oooo! Besides getting to see the movie for the first time again, I get to celebrate my first 39th birthday and can warn people to stay away from Mt. Saint Helens next year too–wonder if they'll believe me this time.
Of course they won't believe you, Grondy. That would alter the time line and throw everything into chaos. Tongue Smilie
Cool! I've never seen this thread before!

Your Star Wars First Name
1: Take the first 3 letters of your last name.
2: Add to that, the first 2 letters of your first name.

Your Star Wars Last Name
1: Take the first 2 letters of your mother's maiden name.
2: Add to that the first 3 letters of the name of the town or city
you were born in.

That makes me Butch Gamil. Big Laugh Smilie

Of course they won't believe you, Grondy. That would alter the time line and throw everything into chaos.

Yeah Grondy! What if one of those poor folks who bought it in St. Helen's pyroclastic flows would have turned out to be the next antichrist or, worse yet, a warmongering US president! Wait a tick...that's not funny... Mad Smilie
Very Big Grin Smilie

Nice thread this is!
I had lots of fun watching star wars episode 2! The movie sucked (so did ep. 1) but Obi Wan was in a building witch made me think of Rivendell and Lothlorien and suddenly I heard Saurumans voice! And then he talked about "the dark lord" and stuff, so the best part of the movie was when I forgot what movie it really was. Later the jedis blew up an federation starship, makes you think of the starwars vs startrek "war" a bit differently, huh? Ha Ha Ha Smilie George has become a hollywood s***... Sad Smilie

[Edited on 3/11/2002 by Allyssa]
Okay, there's the Door, go on, go on, you know you want to... Wink Smilie
George has become a hollywood s***...


I sometimes get the impression that Lucas wishes he hadn't promised 3 more movies... actually 6 originally. I mean, he had DECADES to write Ep1 and what do we get? A movie that looks like it was made up as he went along...

Ep 3 better be something REALLY special or Georgie might get lynched.

I must confess though, I didn't think Ep 2 was all that bad...

[Edited on 3/11/2002 by Allyssa]
I LUV EP.2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! specially the fite scenes, w/ all the jedi fitein at once! it looks sooooooooo cewl! Big Smile Smilie
Should I buy the Ep.2 DVD or just wait until it comes on non-pay-for-view cable and decide then if it is worth buying? I bought the collectors edition of EP.1 sight-unseen and wished I had saved my money. I am happy with the re-released box set of EP.4, 5, and 6 VHS videos though.
I would definitely get the DVD if I were you, Grondy. Or at least rent it and see what you think of it.

Ep2 Seemed to have more of what Ep 1 was lacking, although, the lightsaber fight between Obi Wan, Qui-Gon, and Darth Maul would be hard to beat. Ep 2 just felt more like Star Wars to me. And it's also lacking the silliness (Jar Jar Binks, though he does make an appearance, it's barely more than a cameo) that made a lot of people roll their eyes at Ep1.

Plus, you'll never look at Yoda the same way again! Cool Smilie
Prog's right Grondy. I've noticed that people who hated ep1 love ep2, and people like me, who really liked ep1, were less impressed by ep2 but still loved it (despite the obvious continuity problems it brings up, and Dooku being a sucky bad guy)
i luv both ep.1 and ep.2! and yes, i thot Jar Jar wuz hilarious in ep.1! and i LUV Hayden Christenson in ep.2 altho i think he could have been a better actor at parts.
I loved Yoda swinging the saber! So great! But after thousands of years of training and being around english speaking jedis, able to speak proparly should he not be? I understood it in the original films when he lived on that deserted swamp-planet, but now I'm not sure. I guess it depends where he lived BEFORE the time in ep.1. Wink Smilie

My name is Rafvi Fuåle (Or Fuole just to get the sounds close enough in English) Rafvi Fuole.. Don't know what to think of that one. Would be simplified to Raffi perhaps.

It is strange that they understand Chewies growling and not R2-D2s blipping unless C-3PO or the computer in the x-wing translates it, it takes training I guess. Chewie's just in Hans head? This is getting a bit like Fight Club! Big Laugh Smilie (which I loved!! I love movies where it's hard to predict what's going to happen. Like the 7th sense and unbreakable. And I hate romantic comedies. Exploding Head Smilie )
I don't know what you mean by "blywood movies", but other than that I totally agree! Big Smile Smilie
believe it or not, the Wookie language that Chewie speaks is understandable 2 the few pple that took the time 2 learn how 2 speak it, like Han Solo.
*geek mode*
Han Solo as a child lived on a traders ship with a bunch of other orphans and a load of thieves, the closest thing he had to a mother on this ship was a Wookie called Dewlanna, who he learned to understand, having always had a good ear for languages. Having witnessed (and been pretty much responsible for) her death, he went on to free Chewie form slavery to the empire, thus losing his job in the Imperial Navy, and getting stuck with a Wookie for the rest of his (well, Chewie's as it turned out) life.
*end geek mode*
*geek mode*
*end geek mode*
Luke can understand R2's beeps, at least he can 20 years after Ep. 6
When yoda fought Saruman...whoops.... Big Smile Smilie all the people in the cinema applaused-it was like no sound-just 400 people whistleing and shouting 'go yoda!'.
If it's any help, then Han never quite mastered the Nuances of the Xaczic Dialect that the wookies used as code during their time as Imperial slaves, he could only understand Shriiwook properly.
Amidala is five years older than Anakin.

Does anyone else feel a little too much was given away?

Too much given away? But we already know how the whole thing ends!

And yes, Yoda rocks!

Question! Does anyone know if Lucas changed his mind about Eps 7 through 9? I heard definitely no, he was not doing any more, them I heard maybe, then I heard maybe his daughter would do the next trilogy... what's actually going on? Does anyone know?

OK, I'm sorry. I have to put my 2 cents in and it ain't pretty.

I am so terribly disappointed with eps 1 and 2.

I have been a SW fan since the beginning. I saw each of the original movies (eps 4-6) more than a dozen times each upon their original release. I loved the re-releases with added parts (except the Han Solo/Greedo scene) I was 7 in '77 with the first SW realease. I love those movies. They are Epic, Mythic and fantastic. They started my journeys into mythology, Sci Fi and fantasy. Their roots can be traced back to the core of mankinds mythic hopes and eternal quests. I know and love them as much as LOTR for much of the same reasons.

That having been said, Lucas has pretty much lost almost all of my respect with the last 2 eps. He has systematically destroyed his original vision. He has used poor direction, poor writing and relaiance on spectacular effects to destroy the storytelling ability that he had once had. Yeah, the effects are great, the fights are really incredible. However, that does not make up for the loss of character development, good direction and good writing that existed in comparison to the original releases. It really seems that he lost his own vision, his own way in the creative process. Now it is really about mechandising and eye-candy.

I could really go on and just tear both eps a part, but it honestly breaks my heart to do so. I will say that I didn't fall ep 2 was not as horribly bad as ep 1. I liked the acting of the actor playing Anakin in ep 2. I truly felt that war of the Dark Side from with in him. I felt terrible that Natalie Portman was given such horrible direction in comparison. She actaully is a very good actress. There are other really good actors as well.

*sigh* I do pray that 3 won't suck so phenomenally. I say these things as an actor, writer and aspiring director. I still feel influences from his early works. I am just really disappointed with what we have been presented, so far.
Yeah they're disappointing when compared to the original trilogy, but it's a hell of a bench mark to get stuck with. If they were new movies without any of the hype, we'd all love them and not analyse them all to heck. Mind you, I'm quite disappointed by them myself, but I still like them as movies.

And when did C3PO give anything away? Did I miss something? Or is this a DVD thing?
As to the special edition, Lucas ruined 3 perfectly good movies by adding a whole load of unnecessary crap (except the Biggs Darklighter bit, that was good). And I hear he's going to do it again when he finishes these movies, so that the original trilogy fits in better. When will he learn that they're not his movies anymore, they're ours! He must leave them alone.

btw Prog, did you know the Amidala/Anakin age difference the same way as me? From the Weird Al Yankovic song?

Oh, and as far as I know, 7-9 are dead in the water, never gonna happen. Leave it...
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