Thread: What Should School Really Be?
Here's the beginning of what I thought... the rest is in my journal under the same title as the thread.
School should really be…
A place where I can learn what I want to learn- as much of it as I want, as fast as I want.
Maybe all lessons before 10am could be conducted from bed (that was my greatest wish when I was at school).
There is more to learning than learning what you want. To exist in society as a valued member and to contribute to that society you need to learn how to co-exist, how to work as a team, when to work alone and when to share. You need skills that are taught as part of physics or literature or language or art or physical education and you need those skills in so many parts of your life and in parts of your life that you have no idea need those skills.
If you want to draw anime or manga or whatever it helps to have a basic knowledge of physiology and biology. If you want to design computer games you need more than just a love of computer games - you needs maths, you need logic, you need technology and design and art and biology for movement and interacton... it goes on and on.
Don't look at a subject and say you shouldn't have to learn that because you will never use it. You never know when you will use it, not as a whole subject but as part of a bigger thing. Grammar is useful to know how language works so you can write something people will be able to read. It is also useful for communicating. A uniform language promotes communication.
Maths, I hate maths, but it is useful for checkout girls and nuclear physicists.
However, the way things are taught is another matter. And a difficult one since so many people respond differently to different methods. Teachers should be able to teach not just be knowledeable about their subject(s). Pupils should listen and discuss and not disrupt. Teachers should listen as well.
One of my pet hates is that so often pupils are taught at the base level rather than trying to bring everyone up to a higher level.
Most kids hate school. Sometimes though, even those kids who hate it realise that they need it. Make the most of whatever is being taught. Absorb it, treasure it, store it. You may need it one day. The more variety the better your options.
My not so sensible answer is that school should be something that makes the spirit soar and the mind expand. It should encourage and inspire.
Unfortunately it is often somewhere that people spend their days doing something they don't enjoy. That is sad.
what should school really be?
ok, now a sensible answer (I actually like school very much...): I think schools should be very light and friendly buildings, the eye is the first one to be impressed. pupils should be able to choose subjects they like, together with some compulsory subjects, and the classes should be a lot smaller than they are now. lessons in small groups make it easier and more interesting for the individual members. the lessons should take place outside the building as often as the weather is suited for that. and instead of f.e. four years of higher grade they could make five or six years out of it. the material is far too much for this short time, the teachers have to hurry, the pupils don't understand it and they forget it as soon as the repetition or exam is over. that's not quite sensible. and life is long enough to spend two more years at school. many students have to do so anyway because they have to repeat a class, but I guess less students would fail if they hadn't got that much material to learn but smaller amounts of it well explained so everyone understands it. they might even keep more of that stuff in mind.
and teachers shouldn't be influenced by their personal opinion of pupils. that's the worst thing to do as a teacher. I mean I can imagine it's not easy to treat everyone equally, but you should at least make an attempt to do so or try to hide whom you like more or less than others.
When I was younger I didn't have many friends, and the kids used to make fun of me, and the teachers would see this, and they never once did anything to stop them. It was horrible. I was still doing well in class, but outside of class, I was failing. It's now very hard for me to have friends and still do well in school because I don't know how to balance it. So I'll either start getting angry with my friends and start doing well in school, or start doing poor in school and be nice to my friends. It's all very hard and confusing for me...oh well...It's almost over!
When I was younger I didn't have many friends, and the kids used to make fun of me, and the teachers would see this, and they never once did anything to stop them. It was horrible. When I was younger I didn't have many friends, and the kids used to make fun of me, and the teachers would see this, and they never once did anything to stop them. It was horrible. I was still doing well in class, but outside of class, I was failing. It's now very hard for me to have friends and still do well in school because I don't know how to balance it. So I'll either start getting angry with my friends and start doing well in school, or start doing poor in school and be nice to my friends. It's all very hard and confusing for me...oh well...It's almost over!
Oh, don't worry about that now. After all, it turned out well for Hermione in the end !
but who is Hermione? I'm pretty sure I've heard that name before...but I don't know for sure..
I have had this discussion with many of the guys in my fiancee's course. We think that instead of being forced to take certain classes, you should be given a short test to see which level of that subject you are at, and whether it is necessary or not for you to take that class. Especially college English classes. We learned all that we need to know (unless we're going to be an English major) in high school, and it's literally just the teachers teaching the ones who are from other countries, or didn't do well in high school English how to do what we learned in gr.9. (That was a really long run-on sentence btw!) They still force us to take the course, even if we did extremely well in high school, in more difficult classes....that's my frustrations....and now it's gone...thank you for creating this post...*Lemaly's frustration subsides, and she gazes out the window to see the sun shining...* I'M GOING OUTSIDE TO ROLL IN THE GRASS!!
I actually took a test called a “CLEP” test that allowed me to test out of college math. I took three AP tests and one CLEP test and was ahead by a semester in college…so it is possible. Of course, the AP tests require actually taking the classes in high school, but the CLEP test is simply a test that one takes to test out of subjects, so everyone should look into it if he/she is interested.
English classes are important for everything we do everyday…I would argue even more so than math. We need English to communicate with one another, especially in the workforce. Writing clear, precise emails is essential in the business world today.
I should first clarify. I am an old-fashioned, liberal arts-oriented English teacher in high school in Kansas, USA. It has been the curse of education in the US and I'm sure elsewhere, especially over the last 50 or 60 years, but even longer in some places, that students in grade school and high school have been allowed to pick and choose their courses, leaving aside those things they don't like or think they won't need for a job. This is a tragic mistake. A child, even a high school student, is not in a position to know what it is in the courses which will adequately prepare his mind and character for life. Preparation for life and formation of character--these are the permanent ends of education that cannot be overlooked. Taking courses that agree with one's tastes or which might lead into a job that pays well is completely secondary.
It was always understood in schools previous--say--to the 1960's, that specialization should wait until college. Everything in the liberal arts curriculum is there for the purpose of rounding the character and the mental faculties of the student. A few examples: Geometry (at least the old Euclidean proofs) teaches how to think logically. Algebra teaches how to think quickly. Grammar (even moreso Latin grammar) teaches how to think precisely. Each of the branches of the liberal arts tree is necessary to the healthy formation of the mind.
The experimentation from the '60's onwards left gaps in the education of many children. Courses that used to be taught in high school now have to be taught in college as 101 courses, especially English. Perhaps someone might remember the book "Why Johnny Can't Read"? This was written to point out the deficiencies in public education which led to the mass graduation of ignorant young adults who had had their rightful education stolen from them. I still hear reports back from our graduates (I teach in an old-fashioned Catholic school that uses the liberal arts) that they were able to get a position in such-and-such a field because the competition didn't even know how to fill out an application for the job! Other alumni tell me that they have gone on to universities where they know more than the class, and not just in entry-level courses. Kindly keep in mind that we in our academy do not teach advanced courses at all--we don't have the budget for it! So even though many school have awakened to the problems and tried to address them, there is still a long way to go.