Oh my lovely Bella, it is nice indeed to have some "unconditional" support

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First, my opinion is my own, and perfectly self-consistent, no matter whether I agree in part with Petty, in part with Pilgrim, in part with Eldo etc. It is an OPINION, subjective, not entirely formed on any particular basis other than than some bits I liked and some bits I disliked (in regards to the Warg scene). And in fact, looking back at my posts, I have assured myself that I have neither been Dismissive (Disagreeable YES), nor needlessly Flippant (the Flippancy was a tactic to encourage people to remember that I HAD previously answered the questions directed at me

).
The reason I didn't intend to spend a lot of time arguing about it, is remarkably close to what Odo was just saying. In short, I'm not particularly attached to the Warg scene as filmed, so why waste my time defending something I'm not particularly attached to.
Seeing as no-one wants to drop this, I'll briefly [b:3oreim26]repeat[/b:3oreim26] my position regarding the Warg scene: I liked the idea of a scene with Wargs, I liked the losing Aragorn thing, and the follow-up scene with the horse and the re-assertion of Arwen's part in the story, and what that portended for any possible Eowyn, Aragorn pairing. In short, I liked the Dramatic intent--precisely the opposite of Petty's reasons for hating it...as I have already stated.
What I didn't like: I didn't like the Warg design as some sort of Prehistoric Mutant Hyenas (they're supposed to be Larger than Average Wolves). I didn't like their beady eyes and boar-like shape. I didn't like the CGI, it was unconvincing at conveying a sense of realism.
See, no new information, just a clear restatement, Was it really worth the brow-beating?
Petty's new point regarding redundancy, is a Fair Point, and under other circumstances I might agree with it, however; I didn't see it as unnecessary at this point. Indeed, it was very necessary given that Arwen/Aragorn story is included in the body of the main story instead of an appendix. At this juncture as Eowyn and Aragorn are drawing closer, the re-connection in this scene between Aragorn and Arwen is necessitated and therefore not really redundant. And just to be clear, I approve of including the Arwen/Aragorn sub-plot in the films.
Personally I felt that the Faramir/Eowyn thing seemed a bit sudden and under-developed, and I was pleased that was dealt with more in the Extended Editions. And to be fair to Jackson, this pairing occurs rather late in Tolkien's original version also, giving very little room for development. No doubt, had Jackson spent more time on THAT, Purists would be crying foul

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[b:3oreim26]GB[/b:3oreim26]
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Grey Pilgrim, do not be fooled by Odo's caginess

. No Follower He. He is clever as a Fox, and surreptitiously instigates many an argument for the sheer delight of its Dramatic and Humourous Effects. He is neither as "Pure" or as "anti-liberal" as he pretends to be.
Mr Tyrant is another matter, Bold and Brash and absolutely certain that he is in the Right (even when he's wrong

), though he's not really such a bad sort at all. On matters of Lore, he is generally knowledgeable and occasionally even Reasonable (perhaps due to the fact that it's harder to disagree on Canonical Issues. In fact we tend to agree a lot on Canonical Issues).
Therefore, Odo and Petty generally project an image of unassailability. It's their Standard Operating Procedure

, designed to put others on the defensive. Which is why I choose to debate them on my own terms (well, with Odo, it's not so much "debate" as it is having a laugh

).
I doubt either of them are really Naive, indeed I think it likely that the cold hard facts are what incites them.
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