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Don't recall the episode - but I remember some of the LotR parody.
I must watch that again!
[quote="Balin Banks":2b2vz92c]Don't recall the episode - but I remember some of the LotR parody.
I must watch that again![/quote:2b2vz92c]
Love that one
"Hey, what are you guys doing?"
"We're playing Harry Potter!"
"HA! - FAGS!"
The LOTR parody is my favourite episode of South Park.
"Quick cross the river. 6th graders can't stand water."
"What!? That's stupid."
"I am a high ranking white wizard, Craig. And I say 6th graders are opposed to water!"
"Whatever, I'm going back to play with the Harry Potter kids."
Aaaaaaah! The warm glow of Duckie fueled pub talk. Lovely.
I will need to track that South Park one down, I must have missed it. (It jumps about the schedules a lot here). So far my favourite was the World of Warcraft episode. Classic.
Let me save you the search Petty, heres a clip:
WARNING: NOT FOR CHILDREN (only Juvenile adults
Complete episode here: [url:1cw2xj41]http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103934[/url:1cw2xj41]
WARNING: ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR CHILDREN
And because it's our favourite South Park Episode: Here it is: the infamous LotR episode of South Park:
WARNING: ALSO NOT FOR CHILDREN
Thanks GB- that's the next half hour of my life sorted. Duckie and a palantir of South Park, if I can tune it in, nice.
Aaaaand, our next favourite, the World of Warcraft episode
WARNING: NOT FOR KIDDIES
"Quick cross the river. 6th graders can't stand water."
"What!? That's stupid."
"I am a high ranking white wizard, Craig. And I say 6th graders are opposed to water!"
"Whatever, I'm going back to play with the Harry Potter kids."[/quote:2n29qo0r]
The warcraft episode is hilarious too, though it is hard to name a favourite of the south park episodes, there are so many great ones
I suppose if you're banished you must to be glad of any forumers kind enough to visit - and must put up with this kind of thing!
South Park! The last vestige of Respectability is out the door!
(((Perhaps it's the Duckie... one does get maudlin if one drinks too much... Perhaps it's just that sad quacking in my tummy?
Its quacking when I fart which is worrying me
- is that a side effect of Duckie Odo or will it go away!
That and I feel like I may be about to lay eggs (how many Duckie is too many?)
It's a delicate subject, Mr Tyrant, and quite a peculiar and complicated area of Middle-earthen medinice, so I can't avow to be an expert. All I can say is, if you're at the egg laying stage, you're drinking too much Duckie!
Was that another egg?
Its a very odd sensation Odo!
And for the past hour I've been feeling Particularly Peculiar (which is very embarrassing as I don't even think I introduced myself first!)
I watched a terrifying public information film on my Palantir from the MEDEA (Middle-Earth Drug Enforcement Agency) called Duckie Madness- and it must be true its official!! What have you done to me?!
I did warn you about "milking the duck"!
Feathery palms? Now that can't be good can it?
No, precious, not good at all...
[b:dq6gwlvo][size=150:dq6gwlvo]Odo goes on diet! [/size:dq6gwlvo][/b:dq6gwlvo]
Odo brags to Needlehole neighbours: "I'm getting younger by the minute!"
"I'm getting younger by the minute!"
Is it an age diet? Are you shedding minutes, hours, months and years? If so I could do with your diet plan Odo.
(This 'diet plan' that makes you younger Odo- does it involve an expensive, flash, fast but ultimately pointless mode of transport and a young blonde woman with the brain the size of an undeveloped walnut for company and is it sometimes referred to as a 'mid-life crisis'? 'Cause if so I think I've tried it and it only makes you feel younger up to the point where she turns on the lights!)
pettytyrant101 said: "This 'diet plan' that makes you younger Odo- does it involve an expensive, flash, fast but ultimately pointless mode of transport and a young blonde woman with the brain the size of an undeveloped walnut for company..."
No, I'm just feeling better because I'm working on becoming a lithe middle-age hobbit (with a straightened spine) and the years are falling away. I was fifty one three weeks ago - and now I'm fourty eight. Pound by pound I'm getting younger! Hip hooray!
Now if I was an American I may well gush here with praise for your weight loss and youthfulness Odo and give encouraging cheerleading style comments to keep on going.
But fortunately I'm a grumpy Scots hobbit so I won't- and its own your fault for getting fat so I don't see why people should get praise for losing weight they shouldn't have allowed themselves to gain in the first place! (Ahh its good to be back and crabbity again!)
On a related side note I was standing behind two enormous fat women in the supermarket the other day who were bemoaning the impossibility of losing weight and all sorts of potential medical treatments to cure them whilst pushing a trolley which was full of, essentially, cake. And some biscuits. And some chocolate. And crisps (chips to you Americans).
If you are overweight here's some advice- stop eating everything in sight and go for a bloody walk every now and again!
Yes you're right - though I wasn't that fat! Once I'm down another 5 kilos I'll be pudgy - another 5 - slim trim and terrific!
When you're middle aged and sit on your arse all day in your day job and eat rubbish all day, you can get a bit errrr... pudgy! Alright, I'm agreeing with you Mr Tyrant!
Though you're a little harsh. I tend to see a direct parallel (in many cases) between fatness and lack of self esteem. I must say, since the chiro told me it was a good idea that I cut out dairy products (to assist my sinus problem) and coffee (and other caffeine thingees) to control my anxiety/hyper state (and depression - the down side), and cut right down on over-refined sugar (and cereals) - I have felt better within myself, along with some weight falling away. I could never say I truly lacked self-esteem, though my confidence fluctuates (usually due to tiredness, but partly dietary I'm sure), but as I said I'm coping better with all my ailments. Yes, you'll say, eat healthy and this will happen - but it's always nice when you get yourself organized and do it. Good for the psyche. You should be fairer toward truly obese folk - for them it's a harder struggle than it is for me who is only lithely fat.
Tangent: About two hours ago I said to my missus (Primadonna
) that the dried apricots I was eating were sooooo sweet - the missus said that weren't very sweet at all. (I'm gushing! I'm working on my mania next!)
Truth is: I've gone back on the road at work, so I have to do something to cope with the extra presssure. My brain and body is ten years older than last I wrestled people, and I'm not very fit neither!
What I've found illuminating is, how easy it is to change your habits once you've decided you want to change them. (I remember an Uncle who could not give up smoking, no matter how hard he tried, right up to when he had a cancer scare - he gave up - he wanted to).
Sadly, I'll have to give up the Duckie!
I want my cake and Elf like slenderness too, but it ain't gonna happen
. Some people are born to be pudgy Hobbits, they'll survive longer in a famine because they store energy better. Some people (like Frodo) are Half-Elf, and don't store their energy well. They can eat like a Hobbit but never get fat, which is fine for those that prize beauty over the ability to survive a famine.
I'm going for an improved mind-body state. I'm High one minute Down the next - not extemely. I don't think I could be diagnosed with anything but Natural Brilliance (
), but I would even out a little. I have already noticed that when I'm High I'm a little less High, and Down, a lttle less Down. I detect a levelling out (not that I want ever to be too level - how dull!) Choosing foods with some forethought, being a little more active (since I was young sporty hobbit I've done very little active sport - or out-doorsy stuff - I do spend too much time inside my own head!) and getting my spine straighter (ostensibly to help alleviate my sinus suffering - it did seem to work five years ago when last I got straightened!)
All the foregoing is part of my cunning plan to be ... err... well, as I said a bit leveller. Oh yeah! And not so tired all the time. So far it's working nicely.
Yes, Mr Tyrant, this is all just Commonsense. That's the beauty of it. I've never been a "dieter"- and really I don't think fads work - but just a bit of gentle of commonsense - from me - who would have thought it?
GB - how pudgy is pudgy at your house? Not that it matters. You are Guardian of your own body. If you like what you have, that's all that matters. I just got a bit tired of what [i:gz69jbu8]I've[/i:gz69jbu8] become over the years. I'm only looking for a few degrees of improvement, not a total transformation of my life btw.
Heh! Who am I kidding?
I wish I could be like Frodo, a Hobbit that never gets fat.
Not that I'm massively obese, but it would be nice to shed about 50lbs...or turn it into muscle.
I'm looking at getting down to between 75 and 81 kilos (my approximate BMI good-weight). I was 93 kilos three weeks ago, now I'm 88.7 (last measure - five minutes ago). It comes off quick at first, I know, but it's still encouraging and I'm feeling younger every day. If I lose 100gms a week I'll be happy.
I've got over my coffee addiction quick by drinking a few teas for a few days (and the occassional paracetamol for headaches). Within a week and a half I'm off all caffeine already - no withdrawal anymore.
Loved lollies (sweets) - cut down to almost nothing now - used to eat kilos. (Coffee and sugar - high high high .... dive dive dive.... down down down... up up up - horrible circuit now that I look back!)
Going without dairy is easy, I use rice milk on my cereal - indeed I've started eating breakfast after many years of not doing so. My missus says having breakfast starts the metabolism and can actually benefit weight loss providing all other things are equal - I certainly get through the days better - less fatigued - breakfast helps. (One day I'll drink milk and have cheese again, but when I do it will not be in excess).
When I'm hungry I now ask: Are you just bored? I drink a glass (or two) of water. Most times I discover I wasn't hungry at all. Getting off my arse to get a drink of no-calory water was even exercise - a little!
So I'm levelling out all round, my brain, my belly and even my sense of balance - yippee.
Funny, I went back to the (homeopathic) chiro to straighten my back so as to assist with my tiresome sinuses, but my sinuses are the only part of my body that don't seem to be getting better ----- yet!
Most of my eating habits are actually much tamer than my claims. I don't eat particularly large portions, have cut out almost all sodas (maybe 1 or 2 a week), nonfat milk with my cereal, tea not too strong, I do eat my veggies, crisps and sweets only occasionally (about once a week) but I do still tend to be a "meat and potatoes" man. I don't think it's my intake as much as my indolence.
We hobbits do have our comfortable sedentary habits!
I love my taters too! Eating more rice and pasta (wholemeal) more fish, more vegies - but I'm not actually giving up my taters, just eating them a little less often. The thing I think is working best at the moment for me is not eating sweets (including cakes) and drinking water when I feel a little hungry. If the water does not curb the hunger for more than half an hour, I repeat process, after that I figure I am hungry not just bored. Between meals I eat nuts or fruit. I might try raw vegies too sometime - like carrot perhaps? Btw half and then another half hour with water between stints is my personal rule of thumb - who knows if it's good technique or not....
My diet is not particularly scientific, just trying to choose foods to suit me that seem okay.
No caffeine, no super-sweets (including cakes - definitely no sodas!) no milk. Water at first if I think I'm hungry between meals. This simple plan suits me. Everyone I guess needs to work out what suits them. I'm not going for big weight loss, just better behaviours.
I already lost 25lbs just by not drinking sodas all day and moderating my sweet and crisp consumption. Been eating a lot of fish, fowl, rice and pasta more too.
Perhaps we should have a clothes and beauty products thread next!
Diets my arse- eat less, move about a bit more end of problem. And I hope no one is claiming to be 'big-boned'- that's only a valid excuse if your bones are made of fat!
[quote="pettytyrant101":bekngeu3]Perhaps we should have a clothes and beauty products thread next!
Diets my arse- eat less, move about a bit more end of problem. And I hope no one is claiming to be 'big-boned'- that's only a valid excuse if your bones are made of fat![/quote:bekngeu3]
You preach it Petty, after all no one came out an African famine overweight blaming it on being big boned.
In fairness to them Noom very few people come out of an African famine at all. And even fewer of them go on Oprah afterwards to discuss how good for their figure starvation was.
[quote="pettytyrant101":2vg9k2mn]Diets my arse- eat less, move about a bit more end of problem. And I hope no one is claiming to be 'big-boned'- that's only a valid excuse if your bones are made of fat![/quote:2vg9k2mn]
Some people are physiologically inclined through no fault of their own to be heavy and have a much more difficult time losing weight than others do.
Some people are physiologically inclined to want to eat cakes and not move much more like. No I will save what little sympathy I have left for those with genuine ailments!
[quote="pettytyrant101":198c32mp]Some people are physiologically inclined to want to eat cakes and not move much more like. No I will save what little sympathy I have left for those with genuine ailments![/quote:198c32mp]
Petty, you're just wrong
. Some people ARE physiologically inclined to have lower metabolic rates, or hypo-thyroid disorder which makes them very likely to gain weight even with perfectly healthy eating and exercise habits.
Sammo Hung, martial artist and colleague of Jackie Chan is one of those with a low metabolism. Despite his levels of exercise, he has always had a weight problem. Yes, he admits to enjoying his food, but the incredible amounts of exercise it takes to become as skilled a martial artist as him should have easily kept his weight down despite his eating habits.
Bet he eats 2 cows a day, couple of sheep and a hundred eggs.
"Its my glands!"
What are they hungry all the time too!
"As you know, I'm very fat and need to eat a lot."- Sammo Hung.
From the fat mans mouth!
Yes, I said as much. But the fact is that his exercise should have been more than enough to burn off those extra calories.
Suppose that depends on how much you are eating!
[quote="pettytyrant101":2wvjlmh0]Some people are physiologically inclined to want to eat cakes and not move much more like. No I will save what little sympathy I have left for those with genuine ailments![/quote:2wvjlmh0]
Just a single example of medical/physiological barriers to weight loss is [url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17924864:2wvjlmh0]insulin treatment for diabetes[/url:2wvjlmh0] ( that is to say, a side-effect for the treatment of the disease is weight gain). You could have found that out, or found about other issues, with just a few minutes of Googling. But hey, why show sympathy to people when you can heap derision and ridicule on them instead?
EDIT: And that doesn't touch on the fact that many people don't have the time or energy to excercise regularly because they have to work to support themselves and their family, and that (at least in America) unhealthy, fattening food (which is still better than starving) is far, far cheaper than healthy food.
Obviously Eldo there are a few medical conditions and the like which account for a SMALL percentage of people being overweight- the vast bulk (pun intended) however are lazy and eat junk (there might or might not be reasons of convenience, price involved in that- if that's all the food you can get then I'd suggest trying eating less of it- not that it'll help much, if your living on burgers and fries your a walking dead man anyway).
Sorry but I spend my working day helping people who really, really need help and fatties ain't them.
[quote="Eldorion":3brb6ape][quote="pettytyrant101":3brb6ape]Some people are physiologically inclined to want to eat cakes and not move much more like. No I will save what little sympathy I have left for those with genuine ailments![/quote:3brb6ape]
Just a single example of medical/physiological barriers to weight loss is [url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17924864:3brb6ape]insulin treatment for diabetes[/url:3brb6ape] ( that is to say, a side-effect for the treatment of the disease is weight gain). You could have found that out, or found about other issues, with just a few minutes of Googling. But hey, why show sympathy to people when you can heap derision and ridicule on them instead?
EDIT: And that doesn't touch on the fact that many people don't have the time or energy to excercise regularly because they have to work to support themselves and their family, and that (at least in America) unhealthy, fattening food (which is still better than starving) is far, far cheaper than healthy food.[/quote:3brb6ape]
Eldo is right, and Petty is wrong.
Like I said medical reasons for obesity are not the main factor- they are a small percentage of those who are overweight. A sedentary lifestyle and bad food is much more common a reason.
And for THOSE people no I don't have any sympathy. They burden our health care, take resources from people who genuinely cannot help their conditions and they get in my way when I'm walking down the street and they take up a whole pavement.
And no good every came of pandering to someone who needs to get off their big arse and do some exercise. You will not help them by telling them its all societies fault.
I'm amazed: are we having a Big Serious Thread-like discussion on the Howdy thread!?
Who would have thought it?
I still maintain you are being over-harsh, Mr Tyrant. I wrote a story once (you may have heard of it!?) where one of the characters insists that fat people should just eat less. I think he's right - though it's an obvious point. Yes, that program works well! Adding to that, if one [i:2uadocnx]actually [/i:2uadocnx]moves, one burns up excess energy, and therefore, fat.
The trouble is one has both a body and a mind. The mind is the tricky part (non-part
) of us. Nothing is simple when the mind is full of contradictory ideas and/or delusional and/or bad habitual thinking. Bad habitual thinking? Mental addiction? Physical addiction? Both? Anyhow, your Martial Arts expert seems to be addicted to food, GB.
I'm not sure if what I say next will be all that germane to the conversation, but just this morning I got up and had my breakfast (Vita-bix and rice milk) and while I was standing by the kettle I went to put it on. It was like the kettle was The One Ring luring me into making a cup of coffee (just one)! I resisted, but how long will I be able to? Coffee is nice. (The Power to Rule the World sounds nice too - so long as you use the Power for Good, of course!
All addictions are hard to beat. Delusions are hard to un-deluse. Contradictory ideas are hard to contradict. Humans and hobbits are weird. But we share our weirdness. Your simplistic put-downs go no way to addressing the problem Mr Tyrant - even if you're right about the causes of fatness!!!
(You know, I've just realized I've got an addiction to exclamation marks in my posts!
Perhaps you are right Odo. Maybe my job working with people with real and demanding needs makes me overly harsh to those who self inflict ailments on themselves at the cost of treatment for the genuinely needy. Who am I to judge?!
But really being overweight (unless its purely medical) is something for the individual to overcome- not something that should be draining resources, as it does, from those with needs which are not of their own making.
I'd much rather in my work help those who need it and not push around some fat folk who could cure themselves with a bit of mental and physical effort.
Fat is not an illness. Its fat.
Believe me the one place you will find the least sympathy for the obese is in the caring professions- we know a chancer when we see one waddling towards us demanding free pies!
Mind I think I preferred it when I just came here to drink Duckie- now that is a self inflicted illness but so much fun!
Switch to tea Odo- lots of anti-oxidants.
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But what about the caffeine in tea?
Actually, there will come a day that I'll go back to my sugar and caffeine and milk products. My goal is to stay disciplined until I'm down to a good fighting weight. By then, I hope I'll have better habits and eat properly, not through habit or boredom - and not to silly excess. Luckilly, I'm not that fat to begin with. I'm not finding losing a few kilos difficult at all, whether physically or mentally.
As to Fat Folk demanding Tax Payer Pies as their Cure -- doesn't that just exhibit my general point that the Mind is often out of whack in humans (and some hobbits)?