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[quote="Bullroarer":2o2xpfpf]Thank you Eldorian, but what I meant to say is, what was the connection you made between Bilbo's wealthiest and the way he is stuck in his ways. That’s what I meant to ask you to explain <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' /> [/quote:2o2xpfpf]

Oops, sorry about that. I don't think the connection is so much between Bilbo's social status and his conservative nature (I am NOT using this in a political sense) but between his being a hobbit and his conservative nature. Most of the hobbits we meet, regardless of social class, are stuck in their ways and have little to no interest of the outside world. Note the Gaffer and the Cottons as hobbits lower in the social pecking order and Bilbo (pre-Quest) and his various relations who distanced themselves from him post-Quest; all stuck in their ways.

My earlier post was merely meant to express that I agreed with the point about Bilbo being stuck in his ways but not him being upper-class. I hope this helps clarify. <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />

[quote:2o2xpfpf]you're totally right about The Hobbit, it's going to be a very good quality film whether its in a style we all like or not.[/quote:2o2xpfpf]

I definitely hope so! :mrgreen:
Thank you once again, I understand what you saying now, but I have just realized after criticizing you on being slightly cloudy, I have posted a confusing error :oops: in what I have said, I added a word that was totally out of place and irrelevant, by accident :oops: , (by wealthiest I meant wealthiness) I hope you know what [b:27np5yfx]I[/b:27np5yfx] mean now :lol:. Thanks for getting back a second time <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' /> .

Rgds

Bandobras
Hi, everyone!! <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
What do you think about [u:b6797sh2][b:b6797sh2]Michael Hurst[/b:b6797sh2][/u:b6797sh2] as Bilbo Baggins? I think he's perfect for that character!!! <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
Wow! Great call on Michael Hurst Ladyadagio :o . I didn't remember who he was till I googled him. He has the right sort of look. He's in the right location (NZ). And he's got a solid record as an actor/director on Sam Raimi's Fantasy TV shows (Hercules/Xena/Legend of the Seeker). But he's also got a low profile (in the USA at least), so he wouldn't be distracting as a well known Star might be in the part.

And welcome to the forum by the way :mrgreen: . Happy Posting.

[b:n1q82lh4]GB[/b:n1q82lh4]
Thank you, GB!! :roll:
I've been on the site for a long time, but finally registed just today. <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
I used to watch Hercules The legendary journeys when I was a child. And Iolaus was my favourite character. And you're absolutely right - he fits perfectly for Bilbo!
And who else do you think fits it?
Well, going back through the thread, I'd have to say the favourites are Colm Meaney, Martin Freeman, and Kenneth Branagh.

[b:2tepkq5v]GB[/b:2tepkq5v]
Kenneth Brannorr, definitely,
what about Timothy Spall ? he could re use his West Midlands accent from Auf Wiedersein, as any fool know, Hobbits spoke with a broad Black Country accent.
Spall as Bilbo? I could see that. But I'd have a hard time getting Wormtail out of my head :lol: .

Kinda like the first time I saw LotR, it was weird seeing Agent Smith as an Elf-King :? . Of course Hugo Weaving is such a great actor i got over it pretty quick.

[b:1golxd4i]GB[/b:1golxd4i]
Well, from this list I would choose Kenneth Branagh either. But my dream is still Michael Hurst for Bilbo! :lol:
By the way, I wasn't the first one who votes for Hurst. There is a group on Facebook dedicated to that idea! Here is the link:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/grou ... 796&ref=mf
Join it if you want!
GB, when do you think they gonna name a winner?
Purely speculation, but now that they have a script and they have to get filming next year for a 2011 release, I'm guessing we'll know by the end of January who's going to play Bilbo. I'll be happy if it's any of the folk at the top of our list, including Iolaus...er...Hurst :mrgreen: .

[b:3o6ay4jf]GB[/b:3o6ay4jf]
We'll see...
And by the way, it's nice to meet you! :roll:
I like the quote of Bruce Lee in your signature - very romantic! <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
[quote="Gandalf's Beard":iqoi5n3g]Well, going back through the thread, I'd have to say the favourites are Colm Meaney, Martin Freeman, and Kenneth Branagh.
[/quote:iqoi5n3g]

I think you've got a point about Martin Freeman [b:iqoi5n3g]GB[/b:iqoi5n3g], it's strange, as soon as I googled him I found this reference to him and his connection to The Hobbit, on a German (at least I think it was, I didn't take any modern language GCSE courses you see <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />) fansite, if people are talking about an English (and not a very well known actor if I'm fair, at least not internationally) actor in [u:iqoi5n3g][b:iqoi5n3g]Germany[/b:iqoi5n3g][/u:iqoi5n3g] then I think Martin definately stands a chance of becoming Bilbo. He has certainly been premoted in terms of actors to play Bilbo, on my list 8-) aswell.

Here's the link, check it out or google Martin Freeman your self on Google.co.uk

http://www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/v2/me ... Poster.jpg
Yeah B'arelyn, If you count all the positive responses to the various contenders on this thread Freeman definitely polls in the top three along with Meaney and Branagh. I hope Michael Hurst now makes that the top 4 contenders <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' /> .

[quote:cia1qfa3][b:cia1qfa3]Ladyadagio:[/b:cia1qfa3]
And by the way, it's nice to meet you!
I like the quote of Bruce Lee in your signature - very romantic! [/quote:cia1qfa3]

Aw shucks Ladyadagio :oops: ! Thanks :mrgreen: . It's very nice to meet you too 8-) .

[b:cia1qfa3]GB[/b:cia1qfa3]
Hello GB, I am B'arelyn Dwarf re-founded, I don't know what I meant when I said B'arelyn, so here I am Joseph.

Btw I think you've got an admirer i.e. Ladyadagio <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />

[u:2ee12zjo][b:2ee12zjo]Joseph Dwarf [/b:2ee12zjo][/u:2ee12zjo] as was [u:2ee12zjo][b:2ee12zjo]B'arelyn Dwarf[/b:2ee12zjo][/u:2ee12zjo]
Heard there was going to be an anouncment on 8th december regarding
The Hobbit. Could it be who is to play Bilbo?
Glad there are other people out there like me glued to these sites, just waiting for any tit bit of news.
What will we do after the movies have been made?
Hope for The Silmarilion? :lol: :lol: :lol:
[quote="Joseph Dwarf":1wo8aepe]Hello GB, I am B'arelyn Dwarf re-founded, I don't know what I meant when I said B'arelyn, so here I am Joseph.

Btw I think you've got an admirer i.e. Ladyadagio <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />

[u:1wo8aepe][b:1wo8aepe]Joseph Dwarf [/b:1wo8aepe][/u:1wo8aepe] as was [u:1wo8aepe][b:1wo8aepe]B'arelyn Dwarf[/b:1wo8aepe][/u:1wo8aepe][/quote:1wo8aepe]


:roll: :oops: <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />
Yeah I can't wait for any news updates on the films as well Chris', I think it will be a long time before anyone with starts thinking about the Silmarrilion though! I can see all of Tolkien's later work and slightly less well known stories being developed much later, they'll be films that'll totally out do the Lotr/tH trilogies as well I bet, although I also think tH and LotR films will take a long time to get old.

Oh btw thoughts on Bilbo, I'm reckoning he'll be someone we've never even heard of before, like alot of the cast in LotR.

[b:tzm11mlj][u:tzm11mlj]Joseph Dwarf[/u:tzm11mlj][/b:tzm11mlj] as was [b:tzm11mlj][u:tzm11mlj]B'arelyn Dwarf[/u:tzm11mlj][/b:tzm11mlj]
Well, now they're well known :lol: and I posted a link in Breaking News about Tom Waits. Could he possibly be Bilbo? I don't know who he is, so I dont know if he'd be right for the role...
Hello Tinuviel,


[quote:jekvywkg]Well, now they're well known[/quote:jekvywkg]

do you mean to say someones pretty much been chosen?

Btw I'll check out Tom Wait I did see you posted something on the Breaking News thread, sorry for not looking earlier and for posting without aknowleging what you've said concerning Bilbo! I'm hoping it'll be someone as good an actor as Elijah for Frodo.

[b:jekvywkg][u:jekvywkg]Joseph Dwarf[/u:jekvywkg][/b:jekvywkg] as was [b:jekvywkg][u:jekvywkg]B'arelyn Dwarf[/u:jekvywkg][/b:jekvywkg]
Hey guys.
I was just wondering if anyone knows about this guy: Frederick Koehler
He is in my opinion a brilliant actor and i could really picture him as one of the characters in the movie. If not Bilbo himself, then maybe some of the dwarves? Last time i saw him was in the new show called "The Mentalist"...
Heres a link to one of the scenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAxEQYqo7no

(He is the one being questioned)

Tell me what you think <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />
Not Bad at all Flea 8-) . If he could do a good British Accent he could work. But then come to think of it, the guy who plays the Mentalist could be a good Bilbo too <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> (with the right accent).

[b:jvnhnxrb]GB[/b:jvnhnxrb]
[quote="Tinuviel":328gdg1p]Well, now they're well known :lol: and I posted a link in Breaking News about Tom Waits. Could he possibly be Bilbo? I don't know who he is, so I dont know if he'd be right for the role...[/quote:328gdg1p]

Tom Waits here >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZChJus0qbWs

my bet is his gravel filled voice will be used as the voice of Smaug or maybe the Goblin king
Whoops
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":3emdaiff]Not Bad at all Flea 8-) . If he could do a good British Accent he could work. But then come to think of it, the guy who plays the Mentalist could be a good Bilbo too <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> (with the right accent).

[b:3emdaiff]GB[/b:3emdaiff][/quote:3emdaiff]

Haha. Yes. I thought the exact same thing. I just thought he was more "hobbit-like" than the mentalist him self. And im sure he could put on a fake british accent. Or at least learn it.

[quote="brado1":3emdaiff][quote="Tinuviel":3emdaiff]Well, now they're well known :lol: and I posted a link in Breaking News about Tom Waits. Could he possibly be Bilbo? I don't know who he is, so I dont know if he'd be right for the role...[/quote:3emdaiff]

Tom Waits here >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZChJus0qbWs

my bet is his gravel filled voice will be used as the voice of Smaug or maybe the Goblin king[/quote:3emdaiff]

I would SO love it if Tom Waits could be the voice of one of these two! He would fit perfectly. His voice is amazing! And is definately one of my favorite musicians. A very great actor too!
Very nice idea!
What about Bob Dylan?

On a more serious note: I can't help thinking Rowan Atkinson would be good, if he did not overplay the role, i.e played it straight. Too old now, I guess.

Odo
[quote="Odo Banks":1xc1hk7f]What about Bob Dylan?
Odo[/quote:1xc1hk7f]


Too nasally :lol:
No Rowan's the perfect age, he's just too gangly and rubbery limbed.



Also he has totally hairless feet.



Unless he dons some kind of foot merkin.
Hello Old Cat!

Perhaps Rowan has hair somewhere else that could be transferred? I've heard he's got a hairy back - or did I just dream it?

Odo
G'day Brado.

We could get Nicole Kidman (or Meryl Streep) to do the voice!

Odo
Although all of these gentlemen have great talent, I do believe that David Tennant best suits the role of Bilbo and therefore hope he gets the part. He just has the combination of qualities that anyone playing that character should possess. David even has a little twinkle in his eyes like Bilbo always did. <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
Welcome to the forum, HighlandThistle!

David Tenant never seemed particularly Hobbitish to me, but in any event it's been confirmed that Tenant [url=http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/08/12/33124-tennant-certainly-not-a-hobbit/:305hrars]won't[/url:305hrars] be Bilbo.
oh bumblebar <img src='/images/smileys/sad.gif' border='0' alt='Sad Smilie' /> Granted I have My choice for Bilbo, I think temperment wise and expression wise Tenant would have been able to make a great Bilbo(after some physical tweeking of course)
I still Think That Bilbo needs to be played by someone a lil older maybe in their late 30s to mid 40s Bilbo was 50(Hobbit years) when he set out on the adventure was
he not?
Though my Choice for Bilbo( Peter Macnicol) maybe too old for the part but who knows?
Sooo I just got a Hobbit Movie update about official casting for the lead parts and it looks like they are keeping that elf maiden(Ithril?) in the story line and The post also says that the lead for Bilbo should be 25-35 bummer guess there goes every single actor That I would want to see as Bilbo, left out they are all too old <img src='/images/smileys/sad.gif' border='0' alt='Sad Smilie' />
but Who knows maybe They will change their minds if they find the Right person even if he is older then 35 guess we just have to wait and see.
The 'casting call sheet' that was 'leaked' is bunk, same as most of the rumours floating around out there. <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> See the thread about it in the "Breaking News" forum.
Hi,

I don´t think Bilbo should appear that old.

He would be in the same age as Frodo in the lotr-movie.

Frodo became 33 in the year 3001 and left the shire in 3018. So he was 50, too.

For me Michael Sheen is a favorite, but I also like David Tennant.

Look at those pics:
[img:vdl18kd3]http://www.thetwilightsaga.biz/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/michael_sheen_450x300.jpg[/img:vdl18kd3]

[img:vdl18kd3]http://www.tolkienforums.com/Bilbo_2.jpg[/img:vdl18kd3]
[quote="Wolf":2pqdnsa9]He would be in the same age as Frodo in the lotr-movie.

Frodo became 33 in the year 3001 and left the shire in 3018. So he was 50, too.[/quote:2pqdnsa9]

I think it's arguable that Elijah Wood was too young to play Frodo, but even if one lets that be Frodo had not been visibly aging since he acquired the Ring at age 33. The films also cut the 17 year gap from FOTR so it's even less likely that film-Frodo was 50. Bilbo should appear a good 17 years or so older than Frodo, sort of like he did in the Prologue scene.
I agree, but film Frodo actually looked more like 23 (or less), which can only be ascribed to excellent genetics (maybe he has a little Elf in him <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> ).

[b:1a681gk3]GB[/b:1a681gk3]
I agree with that, Frodo was too young, although he did not really carry the ring all that 17 years, did he?

Nevertheless, Colm Meany is way too old, if you ask me. And he reminds me more of a dwarf or something. At least his face and facial expression do.
Plus, there was no 17 year gap in the film version--perhaps a 6 month gap at best.

I think Colm Meaney could still pass for 50-ish <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> . All that curly hair, He's definitely a Hobbit.

[b:3s48cy65]GB[/b:3s48cy65]
[quote="Gandalfs Beard":rcyprwhs]I agree, but film Frodo actually looked more like 23 (or less), which can only be ascribed to excellent genetics (maybe he has a little Elf in him <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> )[/quote:rcyprwhs]

Your fanfic would seem to support the Elf idea. :P I think your explanation (genetics, that is) is a good one. Frodo was just lucky.
Only recently discovered this forum so thought I would stick in my tuppence worth <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />

Difficult one this. I had thought that perhaps Daniell Radcliffe of 'Harry Potter' fame may be good but he is perhaps a little too young and with a very young looking face as well but he certainly has the build for it, being quite small. David Tennant would be a mistake IMHO. He is too tall, too thin and just does not have the look of a 'hobbit' albeit that costume and makeup could help but it would make more sense to have the 'basics' in the actor to build upon.

Having said that, I must say that after seeing the pictures of Michael Sheen with Ian Holm, I think he would be great for the part. He is the right age and could quite easily carry off being a bit older if needed. He is certainly one of the finest actors around and has a breadth of ability that would easily lend itself to playing a character such as the much underestimated Bilbo Baggins.

James McAvoy would be a good choice too as he is quite slight and seems very adaptable as an actor. I agree with others that who ever gets the part should be able to carry off a good plain english accent. Not a booming thespian accent or west country or regional one but one as portrayed by Ian Holm in the original LOTR films. Just a good, honest, clear english voice, soft yet with the ability to add an edge to it when required.

It will be interesting to see who gets the part and to see if any of the actors mentioned here are successful.
Nice to get a tuppence every now and again <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> . You seem to know your way around a British Accent too 8-) . So I might deduce that you are a fellow Brit Xanthus.

I agree Bilbo ought to have a fairly clear "Proper" or "BBC" British accent like Holm. But a hint of country accent wouldn't be amiss for a "pastoral" gentleman such as him.

[b:pnb40frk]GB[/b:pnb40frk]
Quite right GB, I am indeed a fellow Brit.

I agree, a good honest english accent with a hint of earthy country would be ideal.
I can't believe there is even discussion about "who should play Bilbo." Are you kidding me? The answer is clear! Ian Holm is the one and only candidate. He was Bilbo in LOTR, so he should be Bilbo in The Hobbit! They even show him as the younger version of Bilbo in the opening sequence of FOTR. Based on that one single shot (see below) they [i:20juxpjk]have[/i:20juxpjk] to use Ian Holm!
[img:20juxpjk]http://i45.tinypic.com/2ltsgnl.png[/img:20juxpjk]
Perhaps they'll find an interesting unknown. Who knows? Maybe there's some jolly chap out there right out of acting school who has to work as a waiter to pay the rent. This could be HIS big break????
And the only problem is that Ian is 78, and as much as I LOVEd him as Bilbo and think he's the only one for the job, he's just not as young as Bilbo needs to be, and I don't think makeup can change that :cry: :oops:
Ian Holm would definitely be the best choice but he is 78 and can't handle the strain of filming two movies in new zealand. Same reason Christopher Lee can't do Saruman
I didn't realize the man is 78. I guess now I am just bitter that they showed this shot of him as the younger Bilbo. It makes for poor continuity between films. Oh well.
yeah its a frackin bummer Holm is perfect, but somebody else will be able to do it. I keep telling myself that The Dark Knight is awesome and they used a different actor for Rachel and that didn't bother me too much. Hopefully the new Bilbo will be good enough that it won't really matter too much
I didn't realize Christopher Lee wasn't going to appear in the new films completely, I remember someone saying that he might get a part if the scenes with Saruman in are shot in London (which doesn't sound completely un-do-able). Such a shame about Holm and Lee, thank goodness Ian McKellen's not too old! <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />

[b:obw44kbx]Joseph Dwarf[/b:obw44kbx]
I don't think makeup is good enough yet for an old actor to pass as a young throughout a movie. It would be an annoying nibble at the back of the mind throughout. I remember thinking that the fingers looked a bit rubbery in 'bilbo finding the ring' shot in LoTR. And that was with dark lighting.

Older makeup is easier - more blotchy, it breaks up the rubber. I don't think fake young skin could withstand the closeups.

So much as I'd love to have Ian Holme, even if he was a few years younger so had the stamina for a year of filming, I just don't think it would work.
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